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InvisibleStonedGnome
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Physical Savlia Affects
    #7918416 - 01/23/08 01:28 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Me and my brother were at a friend of ours house and we decided to smoke some salvia we had left over from the previous week in which we purchased. We smoked it out of a home made bong made out of a paintball pod. I took a big rip, held it in from about 12 seconds and blew it out. As I sat on my friends bed, I felt as if my whole body was heating up fast. It felt like I was starting to sweat and my shirt was damp and was starting to get uncomfortable. I felt a tickling shooting up the back of my legs, like spiders running up them. I looked down to see if in fact something was crawling on me or if it was the savlia. I saw what looked like red veins where twisting and wrapping around my legs and started moving upward toward my thys. I started to panic. The tingling sensation followed up with the veins, up my thys and starting to go up the side of my body. The viens were taking over my body or something. I threw my shirt off and to my dismay, the veins had moved up my side and started going down my arms twords my hands. I turned to my brother in disbelief to see him look down at my arms too and say "your arms are getting red!". I took off and ran outside just out of instinct I suppose. I didnt know what else to do, I had to get out of there. It was cold outside. When I reached outside my trip had finally ended.
Another time I smoked savlia in my room by myself. Again I started to feel my body heat up. I took my shirt off again this time and it looked like I had been slapped with a flat hand all over my body with red marks. Maybe


My question is, has anyone experienced rashes or any kind of physical affect/allergic reaction from salvia?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7918433 - 01/23/08 01:34 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I sweated like a mother fucker but I did not experience redness you might be alergic to the salvia or something that was on it or your pipe. Or maybe its part of your salvia trip. Almost everytime I've smoked it I have the weirdest layers that I'm working through and become part of it.
its nuts and consistant

When a friend smoked the same batch. He also experienced the layers. Maybe that can explain why your friend also saw red


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: Cubie]
    #7918776 - 01/23/08 05:08 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

any sensation that arises will last longer,
and if you add your interest or attention to it, the feedback will cause it to amplify and persist even longer.
it can muliply and spread into multiple layers and extend off into dimensions.
merely from interest.
I have had heat build to huge sweats, but also with the very same salvia material, at different times no heat issues at all.
(in this case I mean with 99.5% pure salivnorin - there is still great variance to trip content, so the content of your vision or experience is really not due to a strain of the salvia - that's for sure)
during my first year or so, I was especially fascinated with colors and shapes and plastic toy visions.
people are shocked that trips seem to repeat.
it is based upon what they are interested in.
now my attentions are drawn to other things, and I only occasionally spend time with plastic toys (still love them) villages and odd missing family members (they'll be back).

the idea of layers ( which is a general idea ) is more closely related to the basic persistence of signals, and usually some layering is noticeable with salvia, unless I have been shocked into a reaction complex and feel compelled to leave the room (fight or flight - adrenalin type reaction).

to avoid being shocked, I try to be interested in relaxing and letting go - I try to establish this early in the sequence.


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: Cubie]
    #7919905 - 01/23/08 01:34 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Cubie said:

When a friend smoked the same batch. He also experienced the layers. Maybe that can explain why your friend also saw red





My brother was straight. Other then me and my other friend, he was the only one who didnt smoked any. And he was seeing my arms turning red too. And layers? what do you mean?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7919915 - 01/23/08 01:37 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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to avoid being shocked, I try to be interested in relaxing and letting go - I try to establish this early in the sequence.





If I do that, will it take my trip with salvia even farther? How deep can salvia take you?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7920225 - 01/23/08 03:19 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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to avoid being shocked, I try to be interested in relaxing and letting go - I try to establish this early in the sequence.





If I do that, will it take my trip with salvia even farther? How deep can salvia take you?




Imagine the deepest trip ever. As hard as you can.

Salvia can take you further, given the right extract and conditions.


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: g00ru]
    #7920451 - 01/23/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

bear in mind that it defies grasping
letting go is the only direction and observing is as far as you can go


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7920547 - 01/23/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

For me, I personally dont like the feeling of salvia. Id rather give shrooms a try. Iv bought shrooms twice and both times iv gotten sold fake shrooms. Thank god they werent the poisonous ones or i would have gotten fucked. Tonight Im gunna go picking. Whats the best way to trip with shrooms?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7920640 - 01/23/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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For me, I personally dont like the feeling of salvia. Id rather give shrooms a try. Iv bought shrooms twice and both times iv gotten sold fake shrooms. Thank god they werent the poisonous ones or i would have gotten fucked. Tonight Im gunna go picking. Whats the best way to trip with shrooms?



huh?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7920650 - 01/23/08 04:59 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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For me, I personally dont like the feeling of salvia. Id rather give shrooms a try. Iv bought shrooms twice and both times iv gotten sold fake shrooms. Thank god they werent the poisonous ones or i would have gotten fucked. Tonight Im gunna go picking. Whats the best way to trip with shrooms?




are you the guy that bought the garlic?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7920763 - 01/23/08 05:18 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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StonedGnome said:
For me, I personally dont like the feeling of salvia. Id rather give shrooms a try. Iv bought shrooms twice and both times iv gotten sold fake shrooms. Thank god they werent the poisonous ones or i would have gotten fucked. Tonight Im gunna go picking. Whats the best way to trip with shrooms?



huh?




I tried to look for shrooms one day, asking various friends if they knew anyone they could trust to buy shrooms. I bought a quarter of shrooms for 30 bucks. When I got them, I ate about 3 or 4 caps and decided to watch a primus dvd my friend had put on for me. I sat for about an hour and a 1/2 and I felt completely normal. I ended up eating a few more caps and making tea with the rest of it. The night and my money was wasted. I didnt feel anything off those shrooms. Im guessing they were the wrong ones. Tonight me and a buddy of mine are gunna go out picking around where we live. If we find some I was asking what the best way is to trip. Im very new to this shroomery site. Psychedelics have always been really interesting to me. The thought of another reality besides the one we live in everyday bottles my mind. Iv heard people say they learn alot from shrooms. Is there a practice or a exercise I can do to learn from them? If there is, can I do this with other psychedelics? I must admit. Im a noob.


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: g00ru]
    #7920771 - 01/23/08 05:20 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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StonedGnome said:
For me, I personally dont like the feeling of salvia. Id rather give shrooms a try. Iv bought shrooms twice and both times iv gotten sold fake shrooms. Thank god they werent the poisonous ones or i would have gotten fucked. Tonight Im gunna go picking. Whats the best way to trip with shrooms?




are you the guy that bought the garlic?





Iv never bought garlic and told anyone on here about it. I pretty much have had a shroomery account for about 4 or 5 weeks


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7921101 - 01/23/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

lol i remember the garlic guy. I could get not knowing what the right kind of mushrooms look like, but why didnt he recognize it as garlic? Its worse then mistaking tea and pot. Good luck StonedGnome. It can suck to be a noob (i still am), but on this site if you act respectfully and be patient earn respect it should be fine. The people are good here.


SOooooOo.I do feel physically disjointed the few times i have had a light salvia experience. And i mean Light as in S A L V I A rating scale.

Sort of tingly and electric. Like everything is buzzing or vibrating.

no redness. Were you in a too-cold/too-hot place?


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: origami.octopus]
    #7922685 - 01/23/08 11:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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lol i remember the garlic guy. I could get not knowing what the right kind of mushrooms look like, but why didnt he recognize it as garlic? Its worse then mistaking tea and pot. Good luck StonedGnome. It can suck to be a noob (i still am), but on this site if you act respectfully and be patient earn respect it should be fine. The people are good here.


SOooooOo.I do feel physically disjointed the few times i have had a light salvia experience. And i mean Light as in S A L V I A rating scale.

Sort of tingly and electric. Like everything is buzzing or vibrating.

no redness. Were you in a too-cold/too-hot place?




I dont think so, It was very cold outside but the heat was on inside. But not too warm.


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7922728 - 01/23/08 11:59 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I hate the sweating. I'm usually dripping wet after the trip.


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Re: Physical Savlia Affects [Re: Cubie]
    #7922732 - 01/24/08 12:00 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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I hate the sweating. I'm usually dripping wet after the trip.




Me too. salvia is fucked.


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