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I want something that tastes better
    #7917487 - 01/22/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I am about to try my hand at growing Pans. :1up: (I'm not above begging for tips and best practices for Pans.) I started wondering about how they would taste and if they would taste much different than a cube.  That got me to wondering.  Is there a magic mushroom that tastes way better than Cubes?  I think cubes are bearable when they are fresh and young.  In other words when they are not fully matured into a mushroom with a flattened out cap and picked long before the veils break.  It seems like the older they get, and once dried, they get pretty unpleasant to eat.  I've made the teas and and ground the powders and put them in pills and such but I was just wondering if there is a magic mushroom that tastes good the way edible ones do.  Is it the psilocin or psilocybin that make them taste so bad?  I can't believe that because I've done the 'crystals of the gods' tek and gotten some really good results with only a hint of mushroom flavor and the results are potent.  I'd be willing to even try working with wood lovers again to find a tasty magic mushroom.  It doesn't even have much potency.  I eat button mushrooms and enkenoi like they are candy.  I make killer soups with shiitake.  Portabella are soooooooooo good in spaghetti sauce.  Please dear :bowdown:Mushroom God let there be a shroom that tastes as good.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: chucklehead]
    #7917578 - 01/22/08 10:01 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i hear the woodlovers taste a little better. cactu says his forest dwelling psilocybes taste good, better than the dung lovers...


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: 2859558484]
    #7917588 - 01/22/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I have read that the Mexicana are tasty.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: thedefone]
    #7917723 - 01/22/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

That's a very subjective topic.
In my opinion wood lovers, such as Cyans and Azures taste even worse than Cubes, though a lot different.
You probably know who VERY, VERY old walnuts taste (the half rotten ones, you spit out, after tasted them). Multiply that by ten and you might a an idea of the taste wood lovers have.
I think cubes taste rather good; almost like pumpkin seeds. But you're right, old cubes, taste quiet moldered!
Pans, do not just smell like VERY old sport socks, but also taste worse. Actually they taste just like cubes, but A LOT more extreme!

In my opinion, that's one of prices you have to pay for your adventures. I always hate this part (especially because I mostly trip on Ps. Cyans), but it's just a short moment, so I don't really give a shit.

Just mix up your mushrooms with a little chocolate pudding and you'll be fine. Well, it's kind of fucked up feeling to to feel all these chunks in the pudding but better than the taste of pure ones :wink:

Ah, BTW: slerotia is said to taste a lot better than Cubes etc.!


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: Fahkface]
    #7918073 - 01/22/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Next time you have a bunch of fresh cubes, cut off the stems and set them aside for another day. Take the caps and rub a little blue cheese or ranch salad dressing into the gills. Rub olive oil on the outside of the cap. Add salt and pepper to taste, then grill outside on the bbq until done(gill side up), usually only a few minutes. when the dressing in the gills starts to boil, it's done. It's hard to beat cubes for good taste when cooked. When raw, they're nasty as hell, just like any raw mushroom.

The heat will degrade them slightly, but not much. Cook up about 50 grams of fresh caps and you'll be happy.
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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7918105 - 01/22/08 11:42 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

RR that sounds pretty effin tasty. I haven't had anything grilled in months b/c of the weather. And grilled shrooms could hit the spot right about now.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: liszewski_88]
    #7918182 - 01/23/08 12:08 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i've just been making basic tea (shrooms and water) and adding pink lemonaid powder. it's pretty tasty. very easy to drink.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: xhooliganx]
    #7918348 - 01/23/08 12:55 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i wish there was a mushy that tasted like cubes and dident make you trip.

RR that sound delicous have to make those up at the next bbq


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7918804 - 01/23/08 05:36 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Next time you have a bunch of fresh cubes, cut off the stems and set them aside for another day. Take the caps and rub a little blue cheese or ranch salad dressing into the gills. Rub olive oil on the outside of the cap. Add salt and pepper to taste, then grill outside on the bbq until done(gill side up), usually only a few minutes. when the dressing in the gills starts to boil, it's done. It's hard to beat cubes for good taste when cooked. When raw, they're nasty as hell, just like any raw mushroom.

The heat will degrade them slightly, but not much. Cook up about 50 grams of fresh caps and you'll be happy.
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Will try this definatly! Thanks RR.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: JewelessCaesar]
    #7920681 - 01/23/08 05:04 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Oh man that sounds good.  I love blue cheese!  I never cooked a cube before.  I am so on it.  Thanks RR!!

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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: xhooliganx]
    #7920742 - 01/23/08 05:15 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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i've just been making basic tea (shrooms and water) and adding pink lemonaid powder. it's pretty tasty. very easy to drink.




I'm all for that one! I usually steep my cubes in hot water then use the water to make instant lipton lemon flavored sweetened tea. I just ad about another teaspoon extra of the powder to sweeten it even more. Pour it over Ice and your golden.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7920860 - 01/23/08 05:40 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Next time you have a bunch of fresh cubes, cut off the stems and set them aside for another day. Take the caps and rub a little blue cheese or ranch salad dressing into the gills. Rub olive oil on the outside of the cap. Add salt and pepper to taste, then grill outside on the bbq until done(gill side up), usually only a few minutes. when the dressing in the gills starts to boil, it's done. It's hard to beat cubes for good taste when cooked. When raw, they're nasty as hell, just like any raw mushroom.

The heat will degrade them slightly, but not much. Cook up about 50 grams of fresh caps and you'll be happy.
RR


this is perfect for my girl,she likes food network an loves eating edible mushrooms,but she gagged when she tasted cubes.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: Substance D]
    #7920938 - 01/23/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I ate my cubes for the first time in like 6 years last weekend - AWESOME, AWESOME time!!! By myself too...

Anyway, I had to eat them with peanut butter and near the toliet because of the idea of the taste. The taste wasn't too bad but how it felt when I bit down... Ugh!

Peanute butter helped a lot! 45 minutes later, I was taking a shower and I found a new world. haha


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: Substance D]
    #7920946 - 01/23/08 06:00 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: verminute]
    #7920947 - 01/23/08 06:00 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Well um your a little picky aye, I think they are fine especially when you think about what you get from eating them :smile:


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: DontPlay]
    #7920981 - 01/23/08 06:07 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

When I was 5 I ate a slug... Yes, I know, what the fuck was I thinking. To this day I examine everything I put in my mouth. *insert joke here*


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: verminute]
    #7920999 - 01/23/08 06:11 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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When I was 5 I ate a slug... Yes, I know, what the fuck was I thinking. To this day I examine everything I put in my mouth. *Never again will Uncle Joe have his way with me!(That diry B***ard)!*




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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7921029 - 01/23/08 06:18 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

hahaha, god damn you uncle joe!


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    #7921039 - 01/23/08 06:22 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

:rofl::thanx:  That was pretty neat Verminute!  I like that.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7921057 - 01/23/08 06:23 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I'm not joking, my uncle joe raped me when I was a youth...






...hahaha, wait, that's not funny to joke about... :smile:


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: verminute]
    #7921061 - 01/23/08 06:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

You can also blenderize your fruits with any fluid you prefer, like chocolate milk.

The drink will still taste like mushies, but it's easier to slam a glass of milk than to eat 50 grams of wet mushies.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: chucklehead]
    #7921065 - 01/23/08 06:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I like to grind dried cubes and put them in gel caps. There is no taste (maybe if you burp) and grinding your mushrooms makes the potency even throughout.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: FooMan]
    #7921069 - 01/23/08 06:25 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Gel Caps eh?

Forgot about those, good thinking.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: FooMan]
    #7921077 - 01/23/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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I like to grind dried cubes and put them in gel caps. There is no taste (maybe if you burp) and grinding your mushrooms makes the potency even throughout.




I thought about doing that once, but after thinking about it wouldn't you have to crystalize the actives first? I mean, If I wanted to dose 3 grams, how many gel caps would I have to eat!


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7921088 - 01/23/08 06:29 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

They would grind to a fine powder, I think you could fit a few large mushies into maybe even four caps... Correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: verminute]
    #7921435 - 01/23/08 07:46 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i believe there is a tek on how to do that ummm.


http://www.shroomery.org/6254/MUSHROOM-CAPSULE-FAQ

there yah go :thumbup:


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: Squirrel_Nugs]
    #7921455 - 01/23/08 07:49 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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i believe there is a tek on how to do that ummm.


http://www.shroomery.org/6254/MUSHROOM-CAPSULE-FAQ

there yah go :thumbup:




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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: verminute]
    #7921766 - 01/23/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I do that with the slightly dirty bits I can't clean off the vermiculite and the MGMC all the way. I snap those parts off the actual dry mushies and grind that into a powder in a coffee grinder. Then I put them in gel caps and give them away to my friends. I never ate any so I couldn't say how many you need to get off baseline. I do know a lot of bits only makes a little powder so I'd say take it slow.

I never considered cooking them. I always have surplus. So eating 50grams of fresh cooked caps .. or stems even if it lowers potency is a right fine idea. I'll fix 'em up the way I do buttons.

I'll chop them up and cook them in a pan with olive oil. I always add some thinly sliced fresh garlic (about two cloves) and some salt. I bet they'd be good with a few shrimp on a brown rice bed. Heh I could make that and take it for lunch. I bet no one at work would even blink while I'm scarfing down some shrimp, cubes and rice. I could use some chopped backed chicken too. That'd reheat well... Oh the door is open now. I've got so many possibilities with cooking.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: chucklehead]
    #7923584 - 01/24/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Tea!



I like to let it steep for 10 minutes with a couple bags worth of tea and some lemon, press, then filter through a cone filter to get out the fine grit.
After that it's basically just a cup of tea. Some sugar and a drop of cream, and the shrooms are barely detectable.

God, I hate the taste of shrooms.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7923826 - 01/24/08 11:14 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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I like to grind dried cubes and put them in gel caps. There is no taste (maybe if you burp) and grinding your mushrooms makes the potency even throughout.




I thought about doing that once, but after thinking about it wouldn't you have to crystalize the actives first?  I mean, If I wanted to dose 3 grams, how many gel caps would I have to eat!




The "00" size caps will fit about 1/2 gram each when they are tightly packed, so about 6 pills would get you the desired 3 gram trip. The "000" size, though I've never used them would probably hold closer to a gram or more each tightly packed, but those are bigger than some people are comfortable swallowing. Either way, this has been the preferred method of ingestion by my friends who can't stand the taste of cubes. The bonus, like I stated before is that the potency is even throughout due to all of the mushrooms being grinded and mixed together, which eliminates some batches having higher potency than others. I have a jar filled with this powder and add a little to it from each crop of mushrooms. The voyages the powder puts you on are very intense EVERY time :eek:


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: Fahkface]
    #8257331 - 04/08/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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That's a very subjective topic.
In my opinion wood lovers, such as Cyans and Azures taste even worse than Cubes, though a lot different.
You probably know who VERY, VERY old walnuts taste (the half rotten ones, you spit out, after tasted them). Multiply that by ten and you might a an idea of the taste wood lovers have.
I think cubes taste rather good; almost like pumpkin seeds. But you're right, old cubes, taste quiet moldered!
Pans, do not just smell like VERY old sport socks, but also taste worse. Actually they taste just like cubes, but A LOT more extreme!

In my opinion, that's one of prices you have to pay for your adventures. I always hate this part (especially because I mostly trip on Ps. Cyans), but it's just a short moment, so I don't really give a shit.

Just mix up your mushrooms with a little chocolate pudding and you'll be fine. Well, it's kind of fucked up feeling to to feel all these chunks in the pudding but better than the taste of pure ones :wink:

Ah, BTW: slerotia is said to taste a lot better than Cubes etc.!




i feel the exact opposite, except for about sclerotia...  i think cubes taste like ass and kind of like th taste of cyans and azures.  stones taste like hazelnuts with a bitter after taste


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
    #8257348 - 04/08/08 09:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i love the taste of the northwestern woodlovers, of P. cubensis. of the grasslanders like P. semilanceata and P. strictipes but at the end of the day, and with the exception of the grass land species, they all seem to have the same aftertase, which is psychologically bittersweet.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: verminute]
    #8257383 - 04/08/08 09:14 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I once had some heart-shaped milk chocolates that had loads of powdered shrooms in them. They taste great and were strong as all hell. I imagine that wouldnt be too hard to do, just dont let the shrooms be too hot for too long.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: jbl70]
    #8257506 - 04/08/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

mushroom chocolates are easy, and fun.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: canid]
    #8257746 - 04/08/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Nutella has a strong chocolate/nutty taste.
From what you're describing it may mask it pretty well.

I say go stir fry and use hot sauce if you really can't stand them.

It's been like 20 years since I tried an active but from what I remember I kinda liked them.(taste anyway)

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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: Peterthinks]
    #8257765 - 04/08/08 10:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

meh, i like 'em alright the way they are most of the time.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: canid]
    #8261145 - 04/09/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Next time you have a bunch of fresh cubes, cut off the stems and set them aside for another day. Take the caps and rub a little blue cheese or ranch salad dressing into the gills. Rub olive oil on the outside of the cap. Add salt and pepper to taste, then grill outside on the bbq until done(gill side up), usually only a few minutes. when the dressing in the gills starts to boil, it's done. It's hard to beat cubes for good taste when cooked. When raw, they're nasty as hell, just like any raw mushroom.

The heat will degrade them slightly, but not much. Cook up about 50 grams of fresh caps and you'll be happy.
RR






I followed the above method with blue cheese dressing and KSSS caps. I used 50 grams as instructed and then put the cooked shrooms in a toasted bread sandwich. I cut the sandwich in half and gave half to my girlfriend. WOW that is dangerous. It tasted SO good I wanted to eat MORE. Fortunately I didn't. 25 grams of caps cooked was more than enough for me. If those things lost potency as the result of cooking them, then I really don't want to know what they would have done at full strength. Oh and I'm darn glad I split the sandwich. Otherwise I'd still be trying to find my way back from Pluto. Still this is exactly what I was looking for Roger Rabbit. Thanks again. As always good advice.

With regard to gel caps, I've never tried them myself. I have a friend that prefers them this way.

There are lots of great ideas here. I've often wanted to make the chocolates and may yet. I've done the teas. Those are pretty decent I agree.

As far as the other kinds of mushrooms, it sounds like it's a matter of opinion what tastes good to whom. So I guess I'll just have to refine my techniques, order some spores, and give them a try.

C.H.


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Re: I want something that tastes better [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8261499 - 04/09/08 07:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Next time you have a bunch of fresh cubes, cut off the stems and set them aside for another day. Take the caps and rub a little blue cheese or ranch salad dressing into the gills. Rub olive oil on the outside of the cap. Add salt and pepper to taste, then grill outside on the bbq until done(gill side up), usually only a few minutes. when the dressing in the gills starts to boil, it's done. It's hard to beat cubes for good taste when cooked. When raw, they're nasty as hell, just like any raw mushroom.

The heat will degrade them slightly, but not much. Cook up about 50 grams of fresh caps and you'll be happy.
RR


like grilled portobellos! i love it!


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