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Purposely having a bad trip
    #7917168 - 01/22/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I've been to the gates of hell once. What scares me more, in hindsight, is my reaction, fear, and inability to let go. I want to explore my own fear and defeat it, so I can go beyond. I feel like I am being held back by negative emotions.

I have been toying with the idea of triggering another bad trip to defeat my demons and exorcise these things from me. I probably will not do it, but I've been toying with the idea.

Any ideas how? Watching a scary movie? Staying up all night?


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7917179 - 01/22/08 09:06 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Thats playing with fire man, no telling how that kind of experience will effect you.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: sui]
    #7917224 - 01/22/08 09:11 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

take alot of psychedelics and go to a crazy wild party like a rave or something alone and fuck with peoples minds cause im sure someone will fuck yours if you start doing that to people that might help or go to a psych ward lol get sent to one while tripping hard i dunno man.
hell has creeped up upon me when i wasnt tripping and it sucked super hell is horrorific


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: sui]
    #7917230 - 01/22/08 09:12 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

The best way to defeat your demons is to have a good trip.

By the time the trip has gone bad you're already losing.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7917234 - 01/22/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

take 10 grams, you'll have a bad trip.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: krypto2000]
    #7917328 - 01/22/08 09:26 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

You want to be a Duppy Conqueror :stoned:  It can't be done by invoking a bad trip, you must work on it in your daily life.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Phishe]
    #7917625 - 01/22/08 10:08 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Somehow I don't think you'd be able to. I think that if you're honestly not afraid to face that experience again, you are going to have a "good" trip regardless.

Just make it a mind blowing one, one way or another.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
    #7917808 - 01/22/08 10:38 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

You can conquer your demons on any battleground bro, they are your demons. Why choose a hellish place when you can have one filled with love, divinity, and hope?

The possible consequences of doing otherwise can be extremely disasterous. Like, no coming back disasterous.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7917895 - 01/22/08 10:56 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Upping the dose increases the chances of everything going horribly awry. So why don't you eat an ounce dried and go driving? That would be a bad trip you would probably never come back from. Or eat a hefty dose and go have dinner with the family and go fucking nuts. Fucking up your real life is a real bad trip. You want psychedelic therapy, not a bad trip. And you already know you are your own psychologist.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: mecreateme]
    #7917903 - 01/22/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

yeah, bad trips really have the potential to change you, in however way they choose

it's a fucking gamble man, bad trips suck


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Seventy]
    #7918002 - 01/22/08 11:19 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I think it's pretty damn easy to have an outwardly bad trip. Example, walk into a police station while tripping and then show them some other drugs. Done.


I think what he is talking about is having an inwardly bad trip. One that you could have while sitting by yourself comfortably in your own home. That is harder to come by.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: the free thinker]
    #7918037 - 01/22/08 11:25 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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I think what he is talking about is having an inwardly bad trip. One that you could have while sitting by yourself comfortably in your own home. That is harder to come by.




Ya, thats what I'm looking for. I don't want to get locked up or loose my mind. Christ people. I want a showdown with myself.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7918048 - 01/22/08 11:27 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I think what people have said still apply though...

bad trips like that suck, and have the very real potential to change who you are


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7918056 - 01/22/08 11:29 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

take a bunch of mdma and look at photo albums by urself with harmonic music playing


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Seventy]
    #7918062 - 01/22/08 11:30 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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I think what people have said still apply though...

bad trips like that suck, and have the very real potential to change who you are




Ive had a bad trip like that. It did change me. I want a second chance at it.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Seventy]
    #7918064 - 01/22/08 11:30 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i had the most awesome bad trip the other night i was so freaked out and people freaked me out and i freaked me out and we freak each other out and some random strangers maybe were freaked out too but not like we were lol it was good times


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7918068 - 01/22/08 11:31 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I guess it just depends on the person and their personal reaction

so change of who you are is subjective I guess, just to me it's really negative


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7918076 - 01/22/08 11:33 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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I think what he is talking about is having an inwardly bad trip. One that you could have while sitting by yourself comfortably in your own home. That is harder to come by.




Ya, thats what I'm looking for. I don't want to get locked up or loose my mind. Christ people. I want a showdown with myself.





1) Take a large dose (a bit more than an eighth if you know the average strength). You are aiming for VERY STRONG. This isn't for fun, this won't be pleasant. You are going on a mission inside your own mind. Treat it as such.

2) Enclose yourself in a small room. I personally used to use a bed cushion in an otherwise empty room.

3) Turn off all lights.

4) Turn on no music.

5) Curl up in a fetal position. Let your thoughts consume you. You won't fall asleep. Let the waves roll over you.

I find that the lack of any stimulation is about as close as you could get to a sensory depravation tank, and then your mind will take the reins.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Coaster]
    #7918077 - 01/22/08 11:33 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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take a bunch of mdma and look at photo albums by urself with harmonic music playing





the first time i did MDMA i got a REALLY good blue dolphin pill. I spent the entire roll in awe of how amazing it was and spent the entire night thinking about myself and looking at my fathers old yearbooks that happened to be in the shelf in mine and my brothers part of the house...pretty amazing experience. I havent felt like that on MDMA since. No time is like the first time you really feel MDMA.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7918079 - 01/22/08 11:34 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

sepiroth, what is this "super hell" you keep mentioning in all your posts if you don't mind me asking?


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7918095 - 01/22/08 11:39 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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sepiroth, what is this "super hell" you keep mentioning in all your posts if you don't mind me asking?





yeah id like to have an idea too. I know how hard it is to put it into words and it wont do it justice but.... try?


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7918097 - 01/22/08 11:39 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Ah, fuck it all. I don't have the nerves for it. The first time was an accident. I should be thankful that I came back from that place and stop thinking of it as a defeat. Thats just more negativity.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7918098 - 01/22/08 11:40 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

its like a place that drugs alone cant take you and you can reach with out drugs thats sort of the most psychotc state of mind of exterme terror, anxeity, and torture. The body is in extreme pain everyone around you regaurdless of drugs is tripping too and each in their own world yet when you talk you dont hear what each other is say but evil evil things and see evil evil things. its a harsh harsh place. its like hell but far worse. Its like the worse bad trip but with a whole bunch of other people bad tripping to. you just want to kill everyone um it just goes on its hard to explain in words cause so far what i said barely scratched the surface of it.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7918124 - 01/22/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

well thanks for trying anyways, it sounds terrible. i dont understand how other people are tripping in their own world who aren't on drugs, is that like a delusion or does it really happen?


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7918134 - 01/22/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

thats what makes super hell so much worse i dunno how it works vibes mob mentality psychosis i dunno but you have to piss off high energy beings i dunno. its really hard to explain


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7918162 - 01/23/08 12:01 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

damn! :shocked:


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7918172 - 01/23/08 12:05 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

yeah my friends still remember it if i bring it up. lol one of em doesnt remember what she was like before she got throwen into it


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7918356 - 01/23/08 12:59 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Karmatron]
    #7918496 - 01/23/08 01:58 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

you can channel energies while under the influence, can't really explain how to do it.

but in any case, i had a dream last night where i was in hell. i followed someone through a circle/orb thing where i had to crouch, in there, it was totally like the bible/buddist hell... full of burning mountains and people being burned alive. right after i arrived i was pretty scared and got out through a room/chamber where i cupped my hands to my mouth, put em on the floor and sucked... it was pretty strange like i sucked through that dimension into another one (that wasn't hell) but somehow i teleported there again and encountered a room where people were fighting to the death with swords, and another room that was death related (can't remember, people being pitted against each other). i also remember walking through a garden with computers... don't remember the purpose... i definitely felt a presence of an evil spirit. i also remember someone was guiding me for parts of it, a spirit guide maybe. probably one of the most profound dreams i've had in a while.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #7918918 - 01/23/08 07:02 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

You cannot kill demons, nor angels, but you can learn to live in harmony with both. Since they all are a part of the contents of your own mind.

The problem with fighting internally with ones psyche is the roughness that comes. In polite society people have no need for such roughness, one is already supposed to have evolved to the point of being in control. Just assume you're in control and forget the whole scenario. You cannot control or beat the Cinobytes.

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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7920081 - 01/23/08 02:29 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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its like a place that drugs alone cant take you and you can reach with out drugs thats sort of the most psychotc state of mind of exterme terror, anxeity, and torture. The body is in extreme pain everyone around you regaurdless of drugs is tripping too and each in their own world yet when you talk you dont hear what each other is say but evil evil things and see evil evil things. its a harsh harsh place. its like hell but far worse. Its like the worse bad trip but with a whole bunch of other people bad tripping to. you just want to kill everyone um it just goes on its hard to explain in words cause so far what i said barely scratched the surface of it.





I'll add to that. You hear on the news about horrible murders, while the newscaster is in sober reality talking about a guy that killed in a drive by.. instead you hear about 56 people being slaughtered in a motel last night, then you start thinking you did it and you can't control yourself and you become convinced you did it.

You watch tv, and see a completely different show then what the other person is seeing. Like my pops was watching some comedy show and I was watching just something totally indescribable. One guy that was being "interviewed" in the middle of this desert was talking with almost a demonic voice and his eyes were jet black and in the background someone started shooting at him with a high powered rifle.

Everything is just so fucking volatile. What it all comes down to you is you being able to just RELAX, just fucking relax it's is that simple and it's that hard. I've been going into a bad trip and seemingly was able to overpower it by going outside and sitting in a chair and staring at the sky and just focusing on it and trying not to think... and the trip turned beautiful and i felt wonderful.

I remember the day that bill walsh died and I watched a documentary on espn on him and it was just mesmerizing. The trip really showed how damn brilliant a coach he was, it really brought it out... anyhow...

Don't play this shit, don't make a bad trip happen. You might do some very very stupid shit like this guy about 40 miles away from me that shot his friend in the head while he was having a bad trip.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7920177 - 01/23/08 03:03 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I think I have been to this 'super hell' as you describe it. Everyone and everything appears as a mistake. Like the human is a flawed being, fucking up the whole world. We are all insane and everybody is just trying to distract themselves from it with this fucking sham we call society. All things in reality are a distraction from us, the singular lonely being who is all of it, and who is absolutely insane and out of control and alone...

It is a very bad way to look at things.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: mecreateme]
    #7920594 - 01/23/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

ha ha yeah that sounds alot like super hell. but the thing is its not exaclty a bad trip on top of it or atleast what you think of when your here bad trips. maybe this is what truely is a bad trip and media and even older people cause their generation was differnt experienced a whole nother type of bad trip specially with out all the tech


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: fushock]
    #7921563 - 01/23/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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I think what people have said still apply though...

bad trips like that suck, and have the very real potential to change who you are




Ive had a bad trip like that. It did change me. I want a second chance at it.




Obviously it didn't help the first time. From reading your posts I come to the conclusion that you shouldn't be doing psychedelics.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: Aopocetx]
    #7921635 - 01/23/08 08:26 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Obviously it didn't help the first time. From reading your posts I come to the conclusion that you shouldn't be doing psychedelics.




Perhaps you shouldn't be judging whats good and bad for people other than yourself.


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: krypto2000]
    #7921757 - 01/23/08 08:43 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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take 10 grams, you'll have a bad trip.




you telling me no one can take 10 without having a bad trip? i don't believe it...


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Re: Purposely having a bad trip [Re: burgerpizza]
    #7921897 - 01/23/08 09:10 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I ate 10g dried and had an AMAZING FUCKING TRIP!

It was royally intense and would have been totally labeled "bad" by a lot of the psuedopsychedelic pussies all over the place these days, but it was fucking sweet as fuck. It only makes me want eat even more next time.

10g is awesome.


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