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Drinking prior to shrooms
    #7915193 - 01/22/08 03:25 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

would any of you reccomend downing a few brewskis before eating shrooms if you are prone to having anxious come ups?


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: lycanthropy]
    #7915215 - 01/22/08 03:31 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Hell yes! better yet eat the shrooms and drink while u wait for the trip to kick in.
Yesterday I ate a small pile of shrooms, cooked them on the stove with some tofu. I practically burnt them on accident and didn't think they would make me trip. Ate them and drank a couple martinis on the way to the trip. A half hour after eating them I couldn't think strait and I was seein all kinds of colors, very strong trip. Apparently heat doesn't do shit to them, just thought i'd throw that in there.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: Psychiatrist]
    #7915223 - 01/22/08 03:33 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i would, but the thing with my pre-trip anxiety is that i have pre-dose anxiety.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: lycanthropy]
    #7915239 - 01/22/08 03:36 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah ive drank Jack and Cokes while eating mushies, and had a less awkward come up.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: DontPlay]
    #7915270 - 01/22/08 03:42 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I like getting a buz before dosing mushrooms, does ease the comeup anxiety a bit but you have to know when to stop after 3 beers the alcohol starts to compete with the shrooms IME.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: sui]
    #7915840 - 01/22/08 05:20 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

beer is yummy :laugh:


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Offlinelycanthropy
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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: sui]
    #7915862 - 01/22/08 05:23 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

ok, great. thanks for the input.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: lycanthropy]
    #7915961 - 01/22/08 05:43 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I think it adds an unwanted outside influence to the trip. I know when I booze it up before a trip they tend to be more emotional than visual. But maybe thats just a me.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: fushock]
    #7916481 - 01/22/08 07:12 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I wouldn't recommend getting wasted before the trip obviously, but a few brews or a snap of bud to ease the come up anxiety can certainly be helpful.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: doitagain]
    #7916732 - 01/22/08 07:53 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Yes! Yes! A hoppy beer! and Ganja! They're siblings, and they are friends of the fungus. But it all depends on how your stomach handles the GI effects of the shrooms. Only you know this. Drunk and mushrooms though= good time, yet not a very trippy trip...in my experience of course.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: luckycharnes]
    #7917310 - 01/22/08 09:23 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

dude for some reason when i drink while trippin, i feel like the beer does nothing to me at all, just a tasty drink, it runs through me like water, and i trip pretty hard anyway, but stay pounding beers


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: Ender Wiggin]
    #7917358 - 01/22/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

A few drinks before consuming your shrooms is a great way to ease into the trip. Although i have taken it to the other extreme.... my craziest mushroom trip ever was actually after my friend and i killed a 30 rack in about an hour and then ate an eighth of amazing shrooms. We didn't plan on tripping but we got a call saying they were around and jumped at the opportunity.

Noting like walking the streets of the bronx at 3 AM hammered drunk and tripping balls on awesome mushrooms.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: opensaysme]
    #7917607 - 01/22/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

yeah my friend just told me it helps alot with the gut rot, and i always have a huge problem with that so i'm definately giving it a shot next time.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7917692 - 01/22/08 10:19 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

that sounds like a good idea actually

just a few for me though..don't think I'd enjoy it to the point where I'm roaring drunk. I could see it easing the comeup, making it a bit easier to digest..heheh (sorry bad pun)


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: Seventy]
    #7917881 - 01/22/08 10:54 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Ground mushrooms in a glass of red wine is not a great idea either! I had a friend do this one time, needless to say we laughed and he ended up throwing up. Throwing up while tripping is definitly not recommended either.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: lycanthropy]
    #7917953 - 01/22/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I really hate to be the voice of dissent here... but I think that what you are asking about is a bad idea.

Some people enjoy drinking a little when they trip. For me, it's not my thing. Alcohol (even a few beers) impairs your cognitive function. I think this prevents me from fully appreciating the amazing and strange effects a psychedelic will have on my mind. But if that's your kind of trip, it's up to you. On the other hand...

You are asking if it's okay to drink, specifically to help with the anxiety. I kind of disagree with that idea, for a number of reasons.

I think you need to explore this feeling. I think you should try to figure out WHY you feel anxiety on the come-up, and I think you should learn to work yourself out of it naturally.

But why do we get this? Presumably, we know our drugs fairly well. We both know that mushrooms are physically very safe. We're not going to die. Why is it then, that when I eat 7 grams of cubensis, I feel gripped with fear on the come-up, even though I've had this dose before, and know what I might expect? Are we just afraid it will be "too intense?" Too mindfucked?

I think that this is part of it... that we have tripped before and know what a psychedelic can do to our minds, whether we are thinking of it consciously or not. But I have another related idea...

I think our minds are resisting possible "ego death." With a small dose, I can get a little nervous. When I know I have taken something bigger... it can be much worse. The second time I took 7g of cubensis, I had the worst panic reaction I had ever gotten, on the come up. My panic was far worse than the previous 7g trip. And interestingly, the trip itself was at least 2x as intense. Everyone who had mushrooms from that crop said they were the most powerful thing they had ever eaten...

But I didn't know any of this when I ate them. All I knew was that I was starting to freak out. I think that my mind, being familiar with the effects of a psychedelic, knew how intense the experience was about to be--even if I didn't consciously know this. And it resisted that disconnection from its normal patterns, manifesting in a fear-reaction.

I think this is one possible explanation, if only a partial one, of the anxiety we feel on the come-up. Of course, maybe I'm totally wrong, and it's something else.

Either way, my recommendation stands. I think that you should try to figure out your anxiety, and learn to deal with it naturally. Being able to do this may help you if you ever find yourself in the middle of a bad trip... a situation where you really don't want to start drinking your way out of it. Learning to do this will benefit you in the long run.

If you want to have a couple beers with your mushrooms just for the experience, that works fine for some people. But I think that facing your fears is a part of what psychedelics are about, and if you're making them a part of your life, you should learn to do this.

If you need alcohol to bury your anxiety and cannot deal with it, perhaps psychedelic drugs are not for you. There's no shame in that. They really aren't for everyone.

Good luck in whatever you choose.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #7917988 - 01/22/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

CidneyIndole said:
I really hate to be the voice of dissent here... but I think that what you are asking about is a bad idea.

Some people enjoy drinking a little when they trip. For me, it's not my thing. Alcohol (even a few beers) impairs your cognitive function. I think this prevents me from fully appreciating the amazing and strange effects a psychedelic will have on my mind. But if that's your kind of trip, it's up to you. On the other hand...

You are asking if it's okay to drink, specifically to help with the anxiety. I kind of disagree with that idea, for a number of reasons.

I think you need to explore this feeling. I think you should try to figure out WHY you feel anxiety on the come-up, and I think you should learn to work yourself out of it naturally.

But why do we get this? Presumably, we know our drugs fairly well. We both know that mushrooms are physically very safe. We're not going to die. Why is it then, that when I eat 7 grams of cubensis, I feel gripped with fear on the come-up, even though I've had this dose before, and know what I might expect? Are we just afraid it will be "too intense?" Too mindfucked?

I think that this is part of it... that we have tripped before and know what a psychedelic can do to our minds, whether we are thinking of it consciously or not. But I have another related idea...

I think our minds are resisting possible "ego death." With a small dose, I can get a little nervous. When I know I have taken something bigger... it can be much worse. The second time I took 7g of cubensis, I had the worst panic reaction I had ever gotten, on the come up. My panic was far worse than the previous 7g trip. And interestingly, the trip itself was at least 2x as intense. Everyone who had mushrooms from that crop said they were the most powerful thing they had ever eaten...

But I didn't know any of this when I ate them. All I knew was that I was starting to freak out. I think that my mind, being familiar with the effects of a psychedelic, knew how intense the experience was about to be--even if I didn't consciously know this. And it resisted that disconnection from its normal patterns, manifesting in a fear-reaction.

I think this is one possible explanation, if only a partial one, of the anxiety we feel on the come-up. Of course, maybe I'm totally wrong, and it's something else.

Either way, my recommendation stands. I think that you should try to figure out your anxiety, and learn to deal with it naturally. Being able to do this may help you if you ever find yourself in the middle of a bad trip... a situation where you really don't want to start drinking your way out of it. Learning to do this will benefit you in the long run.

If you want to have a couple beers with your mushrooms just for the experience, that works fine for some people. But I think that facing your fears is a part of what psychedelics are about, and if you're making them a part of your life, you should learn to do this.

If you need alcohol to bury your anxiety and cannot deal with it, perhaps psychedelic drugs are not for you. There's no shame in that. They really aren't for everyone.

Good luck in whatever you choose.





very good points. That was well thought out and a great post. 5 shrooms.


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: Psychiatrist]
    #7918280 - 01/23/08 12:34 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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Psychiatrist said:
Hell yes! better yet eat the shrooms and drink while u wait for the trip to kick in.
Yesterday I ate a small pile of shrooms, cooked them on the stove with some tofu. I practically burnt them on accident and didn't think they would make me trip. Ate them and drank a couple martinis on the way to the trip. A half hour after eating them I couldn't think strait and I was seein all kinds of colors, very strong trip. Apparently heat doesn't do shit to them, just thought i'd throw that in there.




Please, don't. Heat DOES do "shit to them".


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: Diamonds808]
    #7919458 - 01/23/08 11:26 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Diamonds808 said:
Quote:

Psychiatrist said:
Hell yes! better yet eat the shrooms and drink while u wait for the trip to kick in.
Yesterday I ate a small pile of shrooms, cooked them on the stove with some tofu. I practically burnt them on accident and didn't think they would make me trip. Ate them and drank a couple martinis on the way to the trip. A half hour after eating them I couldn't think strait and I was seein all kinds of colors, very strong trip. Apparently heat doesn't do shit to them, just thought i'd throw that in there.




Please, don't. Heat DOES do "shit to them".




i've cooked shrooms on the stove probably 20 times and i've always had enormous trips i don't think u no what ur talking about boss


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Re: Drinking prior to shrooms [Re: Psychiatrist]
    #7919486 - 01/23/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

excessive heat kills psilocybin, you probably killed some but not all.


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