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Mycorrhiza project?
    #7915164 - 01/22/08 03:19 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I have read amazing things like http://fungiperfecti.com/mycogrow/index.html, http://fungiperfecti.com/mycotech/mycova.html, and http://fungiperfecti.com/mycotech/roadrestoration.html.

will be  a great initiative to run a dedicated forum for mycorrhiza and mycorestoration. or, at least., get a sticky post where to post and discuss ideas. 
my first question is what species are suitable for work as mycorrhiza.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #7916692 - 01/22/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

it would be interesting to have a forum dedicated to ecto/endo mycorrhizal fungi. but i do not think there would be a great deal of information contributed by shroomery readers, mycorrhizal study and cultivation takes a great deal money and time to truly have a break through or anything worth while to explore further.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: asci]
    #9640323 - 01/19/09 06:27 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

-I reuse my the soil that I have inoculated with myccorhizae and have grown my herb in. I have read that when the plant dies it triggers the myccorhiza to sporolate and I break up the roots and mix it in with 50% new soil. I can see the mycelium growth on my soil when I'm growing my plants.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: ganjababy]
    #9640397 - 01/19/09 06:34 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

I'm definitely interested in this area, and would like to learn more about it.  A mycorestoration section of forum would definitely be cool.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: libertaire]
    #9641439 - 01/19/09 08:51 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

Agreed. I'd love to network with fellow shroomites and help our environment. Heck I'd even be interested in figuring out a way I could go about doing this as a hobby. It would also give us a better name!


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: smaerd]
    #9641889 - 01/19/09 09:56 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

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A mycorestoration section of forum would definitely be cool.




We can do it right here.  This forum gets very few active threads once I move all the pf cake and bulk substrate questions to cultivation where they belong.

I feel that most fungi is beneficial to plants, whether they meet the definition of mycorrhizi or not..  I've always noticed the most healthy part of my garden is where the mushrooms are popping. I get at least three emails per week through my website asking how to kill mushrooms in lawns.  They're afraid for their lawns because the 'toadstools' are in the healthiest, greenest part of the lawn, and they don't want them to kill the grass, never getting the clue that it's the greenest part of the lawn because of the mushrooms rather than in spite of them.
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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9641934 - 01/19/09 10:01 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

Im thinking of doing a masters with a prof. that focuses on this(I believe endomycorrhizae)  I would or will definitely add the studies I am part of.  It would be a lot of molecular level studies though at not for all you macro junkies.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: mycelialfruit]
    #9642170 - 01/19/09 10:24 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

One of the things I'm working on now is a proposal to build a paper recycling center using fungi.  I've shown them the pictures of mushrooms growing on phone books and newspapers, and of course the leftover substrates are great soil conditioners.  However, lately I've been leaning towards growing trichoderma or some other mold as a faster way to break down the paper products.

Right now, producers are paying $40/ton plus shipping costs to put their waste paper in landfills, since it's cheaper at present to cut down trees than to recycle paper into more paper.  This means I could charge $40/ton to accept the baled up paper, and then after the fungi is finished, dry, shred and package the product as fertilizer or soil conditioner to be sold.

What I'm looking for is the species of fungi that would be the fastest way to go from 2,000 lb bales of paper to broken down product that could be tilled into fields. Obviously, we'd have to invest in industrial size shredders and retorts to process and sterilize the product, and large fork lifts, conveyors and trucks to move it around the site. Shiitake and/or Oyster mushrooms would give the side benefit of a cash crop, but would take longer to produce and would require climate controlled and labor intensive grow rooms, etc., that would at least be reduced by simply growing mold. 

I'm certainly open to ideas, and with the new US Administration taking office, this is just the kind of green projects that are going to get the cash.
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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9643190 - 01/20/09 01:00 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Be sure to search through patents to see if someone has already tried it.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: Poiesis]
    #9644928 - 01/20/09 10:30 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

RR do you think Trichoderma will be able to break the cellulose and lignin as effectively as a mushroom?

The idea sounds excellent, people pay you to take waste, give you a substrate and then you grow something useful :grin:

I imagine even molds will get contaminants though and require climate control.  I know of bio control companies that complain about Trichoderma and Beauvaria contaminating each other.

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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: solumvita]
    #9646884 - 01/20/09 04:35 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

I believe mushrooms would be a better option because then you have a product that could be distributed as food(maybe free food for the poor). Trash to the dinner table, baby, haha.

Having only one kind of bacteria colonize a ton+ of substrate would be quite a task.. but I believe it's be possible.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: smaerd]
    #9648319 - 01/20/09 08:08 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

If I go with edibles, I'm leaning towards oyster mushrooms because of their well-known bacteria munching ability. We have a big problem here with E coli in water wells, due to cattle polluting the streams with manure and urine, which then seeps into the water table.  Our entire remote county is open range land, so the cattle are free to roam, and the spent oyster blocks could be given to property owners to line the banks of the streams flowing through their property.
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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9650396 - 01/21/09 05:52 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

this sound very interesting, where to find more information?


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #9650868 - 01/21/09 09:08 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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x7x_x7x said:
this sound very interesting, where to find more information?




Have you read Stamet's book Mycelium Running?  That is a good starting point for the promise of fungi in bioremediation, ecosystem restoration, food production, etc.  It is a bit evangelical and broad - while there is some detailed info, it is less of a how-to book than Stamet's other 2 popular books. But definitely worth a read or three for someone who is a mycophile.


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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #21163574 - 01/22/15 03:32 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

Mycorhizzae. What happened with this. Have grown interest in this stuff lately. RR ever get into recycling? Think I would have heard if so.
I've seen things for sale but very hard to find and starting at 50$ to produce endomycorrhizal fungi on the roots of a 'wide range' of plants. Anyone made their own inoculants? New info I may not know? It would be at esome to have a garden with a soil I built the environment to from soil up..

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    #21222413 - 02/03/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I recommend looking up phylum Glomeramycota. They are called arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi. I am soon beginning my undergrad research on the effects of members of this phylum on agricultural crops.

The amazing part is that this phylum associates with some 2/3 of terrestrial plants. Definitely great potential in these fungi for a lot of purposes, from agricultural production to habitat restoration and conservation.


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    #21231371 - 02/05/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Wow. That is perfect. Will do. I wonder if anyone else around here has messed with em... Starting my reading...

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Re: Mycorrhiza ¿Project? [Re: ashfiken]
    #21233463 - 02/06/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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