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OfflineTempus950
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Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus?
    #7913279 - 01/22/08 12:30 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

I found a large patch today, of perhaps 20 scattered mushrooms very closely resembling one of these two(Boletus chrysenteron or Boletus truncatus), Im pretty sure its the former. Im planning on picking them up tommorow; I was just wondering if taking mykoweb's advice on their edibility and cooking them is a good idea?


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: Tempus950]
    #7913375 - 01/22/08 12:59 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

if you are just going by one source (mycoweb) i would not recommend eating them. are you aware of all the look-a-likes and know how to distinguish them all from eachother?

even if you did identify them correctly, mushrooms demystified says they are not very good, "mushy and insipid when cooked" (just like most Bolete's). read the comments about look-a-likes in mushrooms demystified and a few other field guides and online sources before you consume anything. by the time you do that you might change your mind about eating them.


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7913555 - 01/22/08 01:58 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

I don't think anything in the Boletus chrysenteron/truncatus/subtomentosus/etc complex is toxic, but with so many better edibles out there, really, why bother. "Mushy and insipid", and somewhat bitter as well. In other words, yuk!


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: Tempus950]
    #7915150 - 01/22/08 03:17 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah, I didn't care for it.  kinda slippery, slimy, mushy.  :undecided:

But by all means, try it out for yourself!  I know I had to.


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: CureCat]
    #7915880 - 01/22/08 05:26 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

ever try deep fried cheese nuggets? :laugh:rool:


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: Tempus950]
    #7916805 - 01/22/08 08:04 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

> I was just wondering if taking mykoweb's advice on their edibility and cooking them is a good idea?

Don't take the advice unless they say its toxic, try it for yourself.


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: Strophariaceae]
    #7917486 - 01/22/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

yes Strophariaceae, the last member at this forum that told us he consumed a bluing Bolete mushroom (which is labeled as edible in some books but edible with caution in other books) had a allergic reaction from eating them for dinner and went to the hospital. he did not spend the time to check more then one resource about how the mushroom causes allergic reactions in some people.

really, i suck at identifying Bolete's. they confuse me and i never even attempt to ID many of them for the most part. they are on the top of my list now, a challenge to tackle that has been put aside for a while now

the book i am interested in on the topic is by Alan E. Bessette and friends, "North American Boletes". It is $95 though (just like the last Bessette book i bought), good quality i suppose, but i am not sure if it is worth it for me. i could buy 3 or 4 books for that amount.


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7921926 - 01/23/08 09:15 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Slimy and mushy.. doesnt sound appealing at all. Pity, I managed to get a very nice haul of nice looking ones. On more examination, they seem to also potentially be boletus zillaria, but they were growing under a oak tree :undecided: Anyway, I took out one of my very pretty boletes today and was examining it when a quick number of tiny brownish things started popping out of the pores. OH look, this is bolete spores! a second later i realized the "spores" were moving around and running away. Insects :-(


On a brighter note, I found a nice giant lepista nuda and another small one today at college, which Im enjoying for dinner with eggs right now :-) I spotted a couple more growing nearby, could someone tell me how long they take to grow? a day?


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: Tempus950]
    #7922749 - 01/24/08 12:05 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Many boletes have special chemicals to attract the insects so they get covered in spores and spread them everywhere. The chemicals attract people too.


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Re: Boletus chrysenteron/Boletus truncatus? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7923933 - 01/24/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

GG, Bessette's North American Boletes is an outstanding book. It's the main reference I use these days for my bolete identifications.

One thing you can look forward to if you're moving west - we have a *lot* fewer kinds of boletes than there are out east. So it's a lot easier to get close to what you have.


Tempus, the only issue with distinguishing between B. chrysenteron and B. truncatus is that they can only be distinguished accurately from each other with a microscope. Both are listed as edible by Bessette, but I kno't know anybody who bothers with those species.

Happy mushrooming!


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