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Harvest early?
    #7913245 - 01/22/08 12:22 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

So I keep reading that the smaller and younger the shroom the more potent it is. Would it make sense to always pick just a little early for the best possible shrooms?

Or is it like if you have 2 shrooms they both have the same amount of active compounds so in a bigger one its less potency by weight?


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Re: Harvest early? [Re: ShroomBoominKid]
    #7913274 - 01/22/08 12:29 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

wrong section, ehtnobotanical garden is for plants. But um i guess ill give it a shot. Its not proven that they are more potent when they are smaller, just a rumor. but lets look at it in a different way. Even if they are a little less potent when they are larger.. there is a lot more of it so it can either balance itself out or go one way or another.


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Re: Harvest early? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7913372 - 01/22/08 12:58 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Bigger = More style points


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: ShroomBoominKid]
    #7913700 - 01/22/08 04:24 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.

Reason:
This doesn't belong in the garden.


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Re: Harvest early? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7913729 - 01/22/08 04:40 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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deformedreality said:
wrong section, ehtnobotanical garden is for plants. But um i guess ill give it a shot. Its not proven that they are more potent when they are smaller, just a rumor. but lets look at it in a different way. Even if they are a little less potent when they are larger.. there is a lot more of it so it can either balance itself out or go one way or another.




i concur. I think when you allow them to get larger you are simply spreading the compounds across a larger surface area. so yes, you have less potency per gram or miligram, however the same overall potency. atleast my belief.

i also harvest around 12 hours after the veils first break


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: Nalim]
    #7913730 - 01/22/08 04:40 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Pick them right around the time the veil is breaking. You are likely to get the best ratio of weight to active chemical at that point imo.


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: Cakes]
    #7913757 - 01/22/08 05:09 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i like to get um when the veil breaks, also for printing


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: flushme]
    #7914021 - 01/22/08 10:09 AM (16 years, 10 days ago)

i wait till it starts to tear my self plus i dont like eatin big caps stems taste better to imo


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: raceandsmoke]
    #7914524 - 01/22/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

With this line of reasoning where smaller mushrooms are more potent, you should pick all your mushrooms as soon as they pin. I advocate this. I have a friend of a cousin who's father tripped mad ballz nuts yo...on like 1 gram of early picked pins. As soon as they pop up you need to clear that substrate so it can start making new pins....

Sorry. I'll go ahead and make it clear (sarcasm ^^^^) :smile:


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7914607 - 01/22/08 01:00 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Pins are potent yo, 1 gram will make you trip pretty hard. However chances are you'll have enough left over pins via aborts to trip hard. Oh an if you pick them early your mushrooms might start to hate you.


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: 0xYg3n]
    #7917699 - 01/22/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Ideally pick as the veil is starting to separate. The mushroom is moving its energy from developmental growth to reproduction at this point and there will be less actives per gram if you allow it to go bigger - plus you keep spores off your substrate if you're cloning.


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: mandelbrah]
    #7917855 - 01/22/08 10:49 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

yeah, think of it as when the pin develops it makes the max amount of psilocybin that it will have, which then when the mushroom grows, the psilocybin is spread out over the mature mushroom, and consequently larger weight.

take note I'm not saying this is exactly right, just to put it into perspective a bit.

so pins are more potent by weight, but they don't have more of the active compound than the exact same mushroom fully mature

at least that's how I understand it.


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: Seventy]
    #7917976 - 01/22/08 11:14 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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pins are more potent by weight, but they don't have more of the active compound than the exact same mushroom fully mature



Exactly. It's most "cost-effective" to harvest as the veil tears.


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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: thedefone]
    #7918109 - 01/22/08 11:44 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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thedefone said:
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pins are more potent by weight, but they don't have more of the active compound than the exact same mushroom fully mature



Exactly. It's most "cost-effective" to harvest as the veil tears.




maybe maybe not. By harvesting earlier the substrate is losing less nutrients possibly resulting in many subsequent flushes.

If you're going for optimal potency:weight ratio, I would pick them younger. Most active compounds are produced in the earlier stages of fruiting.
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Re: Harvest early? (moved) [Re: zyxwvutsr]
    #7918144 - 01/22/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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By harvesting earlier the substrate is losing less nutrients possibly resulting in many subsequent flushes



Provided outside forces don't contaminate you over time. Also, your graph shows that:

0,500 gram mushroom will yield more than 0,25 actives, while a
0,250 gram mushroom will not quite yeild 0,50 actives.

Ergo, by your information... the smaller, the weaker by weight.


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