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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7946501 - 01/28/08 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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If you want to get into semantics
This kind of rebuttal is characteristic of someone who knows they're in the wrong and is grasping at anything left over. Nit picking on details and semantics instead of accepting the beef of the matter which makes it clear that the cult, at the very least, were once a bunch of violent thugs who beat up people and their friends and families who said things the cult didn't like.
This is kinda like Muslims do to cartoonists and writers today, only the cult did it without explosives. Religious freaks are the same the world over.
And from all evidence, they're still doing this today as evidenced by the death threats, and stalkings of reporters who dare to publish anything negative about the cult. The difference is that today the cult is more sensitive to the negative impact of bad public relations.
do you have a source where Hubbard stated that Fair game would be publicly recanted, but still in use?
The quotations I provided come from an original document stolen from the cult that I scanned and OCRed. If you REALLY think I'm a liar, PM me and I'll hook you up with my FTP server where you can download a copy of the OCRed document copyright "Commodore L. Ron Hubbard" that the above quotes came from.
Dude, take a step back for a minute. Imagine someone defending a Muslim imam who called for violence against a cartoonist using your same arguments. Really, break out of the box and look at your comments in that light for a second and really see how fanatical your words look to a neutral observer.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Diploid]
#7946563 - 01/28/08 06:02 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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ah, so now we move to ad hominems?
and do you have any proof that scientology has ever been involved in causign bodily harm to someone? evidence.... evidenced by what? how are they getting aweay with beating people up, and making death threats? soudns rather delusional and sensational to me.
also... documents that have been stolen are rather dubious. Im not saying that they have been changed, but you would never know. shit, you dont even really know if that document was even stolen.
There are plenty of people out there that have no problem fabricating documents as well as posting things as fact that are not only insanely ridiculous, but obviously false. I recall one "legitimate" newspaper claiming that orgies and child molestation occured at the top floor of the Fort Harrison on a wekly basis.
but lets say that Hubbard did keep his fingers crossed when he recanted.... where is the evidence through action that they injure people?
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7946670 - 01/28/08 06:24 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Oh gawd. So now journalists who report receiving death threats and being followed around and who produce videos of this insanity are liars too.
But the cult? They're just a bunch of saints who would never threaten, scare, stalk, or hurt anyone as their Grand Poobah told them to do in writing. Riiigghhttt!
Well, I don't have the energy for this. You win.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Diploid]
#7946686 - 01/28/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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im not trying to "win" here.
You just give up once I ask you for any type of proof of your inferences? all speculation aside, lets say that yes, fair game is still in effect, even the part about bodily harm.... where is the proof for that? where are these videos from journalists being followed? i am seriously curious about that part. i want to see those videos.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7946969 - 01/28/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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#7947000 - 01/28/08 07:19 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Chemy]
#7947026 - 01/28/08 07:22 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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and lets not forget their security guards.
on a funny note.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: THEBats]
#7947154 - 01/28/08 07:36 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I cant watch them right now since the computer at work here streams video at a horrible pace and makes it all jittery.... but thanks for posting it. I will check them both out.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7947329 - 01/28/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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YawningAnus said: I cant watch them right now since the computer at work here streams video at a horrible pace and makes it all jittery.... but thanks for posting it. I will check them both out.
yea the first one provides sources at the end. As far as the guards really it's nothing new...just creepy.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: THEBats]
#7949604 - 01/29/08 08:56 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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THEBats said:
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YawningAnus said: I cant watch them right now since the computer at work here streams video at a horrible pace and makes it all jittery.... but thanks for posting it. I will check them both out.
yea the first one provides sources at the end. As far as the guards really it's nothing new...just creepy.
Scare tactis, haha oh wow.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: PoisonedV]
#7958999 - 01/31/08 02:18 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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oh jeez... sorry, I hadnt been able to watch the videos posted until now. same tired crap.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7180390#7180390
in that link I quote something from wiki, unedited except for making a paragraph bold... a paragraph that states the judge verbatim saying that the evidence shows contrary to what prosecution was claiming.
I admit that I have no comment for anything in that video past the lisa mcpherson part, but the first half of that video has very few facts in it, and only those few because they supported their case. It is so biased I had to giggle at times.
"Mr X demanded his money back and died from an accident the next day"
great journalism there.
the only other part that was accurate about that video was operation snow white. which is really interesting
here are some more threads about this topic. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6921869#6921869
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3700326/page/0/fpart/11/vc/1 even older. also, someone signed up for the shroomery for the sole purpose of attacking scientology in this thread. That thread is almost 3 years old and the guy has 4 posts.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7959194 - 01/31/08 05:43 AM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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YawningAnus said: oh jeez... sorry, I hadnt been able to watch the videos posted until now. same tired crap.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7180390#7180390
in that link I quote something from wiki, unedited except for making a paragraph bold... a paragraph that states the judge verbatim saying that the evidence shows contrary to what prosecution was claiming.
I admit that I have no comment for anything in that video past the lisa mcpherson part, but the first half of that video has very few facts in it, and only those few because they supported their case. It is so biased I had to giggle at times.
"Mr X demanded his money back and died from an accident the next day"
great journalism there.
the only other part that was accurate about that video was operation snow white. which is really interesting
here are some more threads about this topic. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6921869#6921869
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3700326/page/0/fpart/11/vc/1 even older. also, someone signed up for the shroomery for the sole purpose of attacking scientology in this thread. That thread is almost 3 years old and the guy has 4 posts.
I understand it may not contain all facts. But also understand wiki can be edited by anyone including the church itself which I believe has been caught editing articles critical of scientolgy. But so has the vatican so whatever.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Magicius]
#7960106 - 01/31/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Magicius said:
Personally, I thin, MArtin Barnes is a crackwhoreboy.
I LOVED the movie BATTLEFIELD earth. I've had crystal METH problems; exactly because the court case could not be dropped has agitated me to the point of continuing the habit - if I was just left alone and allowed to move on I would not still be using the *SHIT*...
MARTIN BARNES is a fucking asshole, I havent read any of your responses.
wtf?
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