|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: fapjack]
#7926742 - 01/24/08 09:12 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
|
|
did I start thsi thread? did I rant on about it?
all I did was reverse the bullshit that was being spread, i mean seriously, how much of a douchebag can you be?
|
despisedicon
Stranger

Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 8,361
Loc:
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7926750 - 01/24/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
|
|
hahahahhahahahahahah arguing that $cientology isn't a devious cult. how rich!!!!!!!!
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: despisedicon]
#7927358 - 01/24/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
|
|
how is it a devious cult?
actually, if anyone is interested, or doesnt want to make the same mistake of all the other people I have pwned in discussion relating to scientology, go search for all the threads under my name about scientology. I lost count of how many threads there were, but each one of them eventually had to back peddle and admit that they were in fact completely ignorant on the subject.
|
Seuss
Error: divide byzero



Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7928379 - 01/25/08 03:06 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
> or doesnt want to make the same mistake of all the other people I have pwned in discussion relating to scientology
Dude, you need help if you think you are pwning people with your $cientology debate skills. Just because a parent doesn't bother to argue with a child in the middle of a temper tantrum doesn't mean the child throwing the tantrum is pwning the parent. Instead, it shows the parent is smart enough not to waste time trying to talk to a child that isn't listening to reason. (I'm not claiming you are throwing a temper tantrum, just using it as an example.)
I've gotta run right now, but I will answer your previous post in a bit.
-------------------- Just another spore in the wind.
|
Seuss
Error: divide byzero



Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7928449 - 01/25/08 04:05 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
It is rather hilarious that you think there is some agency out there that objectively labels groups as cults, and therefor makes it so.
Sorry, but I will trust the experts over you or me. It wasn't just one list or group, but all of them that used to list $cientology as a cult. If the cult watch lists are so bad, then why does the $cientology "church" run several of them?
Quote:
The reason why those organizations were able to be sued into bankruptcy by $cientology was because they were engaged in illegal and unethical activity such as spreading vast amounts of false information (libel and slander) as well as attempting to infiltrate and steal documents.
No, the reason they were sued is because the $cientology members didn't like being called cult members. The cult members used the excuses you listed above, among others. Anybody can sue anybody. The $cientologists did not win the cases, but that didn't stop them from starting lawsuits, one member at a time, to drive the watch groups into bankruptcy. A few bigger organizations, such as The New York Times, were able to successfully withstand the barrage.
Quote:
oh not to mention that they would capture scientology members and restrain them against there will, sometimes even sedating them all in the name of "deprogramming".
Reality check... please post verifiable references that show cult watch lists were active in the kidnapping and deprogramming of any cult member, not just a $cintologist cult member. I'm not doubting that cult members, even $cientolgoists, are taken by deprogrammers from time to time. I just want to see evidence that the deprogrammers were owned and operated by the cult watch groups that were sued by the $cientology cult members.
Quote:
Cult 1: formal religious veneration : worship 2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents 3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents 4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults> 5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion
1: $cientology claims to be a religious group (The Church of Scientology) 2: $cientology has a system of religious beliefs and rituals (audit anybody?) 3: $cientology is regarded as unorthodox (worship the alien Xenu) 4: $cientology claim that Dianetics is all one needs to remain healthy 5: $cientology have a great devotion to some dork named L. Ron Hubbard
So, cult or not? By the definitions you posted, $cientology nails every single one as cult. Thanks for helping out here, saved me a lot of effort.
Quote:
By some of those definitions, could the shroomery be considered a cult?
Good question, let us see:
1: Shroomery doesn't claim to be a religious group. We are not tax exempt. 2: Shroomery doesn't have any regligious beliefs or rituals 3: Shroomery is not regarded as unorthodox 4: Shroomery makes no claims that mushrooms will heal disease 5: Shroomery doesn't have a great devotion towards any single individual
Nope, sorry, by the definitions you posted, the shroomery is not a cult.
(To be continued)
|
Seuss
Error: divide byzero



Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7928478 - 01/25/08 04:33 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
you mean something like the way christians have retreats and go camping and everyone pays to go on the trip? what are these mysterious "other activities"? the book Dianetics teaches you how to audit yourself... so there goes that theory.
Dude, look at their silly web site! Don't take my word for it, read their words! Or do you not trust the $cientologists?
Quote:
What about those who cannot afford to make donations for services?
There is a Free Scientology Center in Churches of Scientology where those who cannot afford to donate may receive auditing without donation. As described above, many Scientology services do not require donation, and Scientology scripture is available at local Churches of Scientology and libraries.
So, there is a cost, called a donation, associated with auditing that might be waived in some cases. However, my experience has been, if you have no money, they walk you to the door. Try it and see. Dress in old worn out clothes, go into a $cientology center and tell them how you have lost everything, completely broke, and somebody suggested $cientology to get your life turned around, and see what happens. When I did this, it was "thanks for stopping by, here is the exit."
Quote:
How much does it cost to go Clear?
The cost varies depending on which path one takes. One way is to donate for auditing and participate in auditing services all the way up to Clear. The preferred route, however, is to become trained as an auditor and co-audit with another Scientologist. The co-auditing route to Clear requires far less in donations than to only have auditing ministered to oneself, plus one helps another to progress spiritually. As auditing costs much more for the church to supply (requiring several staff for each parishioner) donations necessarily must be higher. Training is much more economical and an incentive for persons to receive training and then co-audit, without cost, to the state of Clear.
Required donations aren't donations, but charges for service.
Quote:
I personally know many people who have received free scientology courses, books, and auditing.
It won't last. Many cults seem nice and friendly on the surface, but once they hook you, the true nature of the beast becomes apparent. You personally know many people that haven't paid any money to the cult and get everything for free, eh? How many, exactly? One? Two? Zero?
Quote:
so that is how much auditing costs? im curious of what you think you know.
According to cult members that I have spoken with, auditing is part of a course and isn't charged for directly. Although I can't find any price lists on the cults web site, there are several groups that charge, I mean require donations, anywhere from $2000 to $32000 for various "training courses". For example: http://www.scientology-asho.org/registration_donationrates.htm
Quote:
I think I just showed you that both were inaccurate, and that most of it is fabricated bullshit.
Yep... I was soooo pwned.
-------------------- Just another spore in the wind.
|
PoisonedV
Fuming Shrooming




Registered: 09/13/07
Posts: 398
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 9 years, 1 month
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Seuss]
#7928796 - 01/25/08 07:52 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Oh god I hope YawningAnus don't pwn me!
-------------------- Lazy...
|
THEBats
FuturePsychopharmacologist


Registered: 03/18/05
Posts: 1,268
Loc: Florida
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: PoisonedV]
#7928888 - 01/25/08 08:36 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
I hope xenu pwns yawninganus in his sleep for even remotely trying to defend scientology lol.
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Seuss]
#7930625 - 01/25/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Seuss said:
Quote:
It is rather hilarious that you think there is some agency out there that objectively labels groups as cults, and therefor makes it so.
Sorry, but I will trust the experts over you or me. It wasn't just one list or group, but all of them that used to list $cientology as a cult. If the cult watch lists are so bad, then why does the $cientology "church" run several of them?
who are these experts? how does one become an expert on this subject? you are still hung up on this word cult, as if once somethign has been labelled so, it must be true. Every religion starts out as a "cult".... look it up... every single religioin has at one point been considered a cult. it is a subjective value.
Quote:
oh not to mention that they would capture scientology members and restrain them against there will, sometimes even sedating them all in the name of "deprogramming".
Reality check... please post verifiable references that show cult watch lists were active in the kidnapping and deprogramming of any cult member, not just a $cintologist cult member. I'm not doubting that cult members, even $cientolgoists, are taken by deprogrammers from time to time. I just want to see evidence that the deprogrammers were owned and operated by the cult watch groups that were sued by the $cientology cult members.
1 pwn coming right up.
Quote:
The deprogramming accounts vary a lot regarding the use of force, with the most dramatic accounts coming from deprogrammees who returned to the group.
Steven Hassan in his book Releasing the Bonds spoke decidedly against coercive deprogramming methods using force or threats.
The deprogramming case observed by Dubrow-Eichel did not include any violence.
Sociologist Eileen Barker wrote in Watching for Violence:
"Although deprogramming has become less violent in the course of time ... Numerous testimonies by those who were subjected to a deprogramming describe how they were threatened with a gun, beaten, denied sleep and food and/or sexually assaulted. But one does not have to rely on the victims for stories of violence: Ted Patrick, one of the most notorious deprogrammers used by CAGs (who has spent several terms in prison for his exploits) openly boasts about some of the violence he employed; in November 1987, Cyril Vosper, a Committee member of the British cult-awareness group, FAIR, was convicted in Munich of "causing bodily harm" in the course of one of his many deprogramming attempts; and a number of similar convictions are on record for prominent members of CAGs elsewhere." In Colombrito vs. Kelly, the Court accepted the definition of deprogramming by J. Le Moult published in 1978 in the Fordham Law Review:
"Deprogrammers are people who, at the request of a parent or other close relative, will have a member of a religious sect seized, then hold him against his will and subject him to mental, emotional, and even physical pressures until he renounces his religious beliefs. Deprogrammers usually work for a fee, which may easily run as high as $25,000. The deprogramming process begins with abduction. Often strong men muscle the subject into a car and take him to a place where he is cut from everyone but his captors. He may be held against his will for upward of three weeks. Frequently, however, the initial deprogramming only last a few days. The subject's sleep is limited and he is told that he will not be released until his beliefs meet his captors' approval. Members of the deprogramming group, as well as members of the family, come into the room where the victim is held and barrage him with questions and denunciations until he recants his newly found religion " Exit counselor Carol Giambalvo writes in From Deprogramming to Thought Reform Consultation
"It was believed that the hold of the brainwashing over the cognitive processes of a cult member needed to be broken – or "snapped" as some termed it – by means that would shock or frighten the cultist into thinking again. For that reason in some cases cult leader's pictures were burned or there were highly confrontational interactions between deprogrammers and cultist. What was often sought was an emotional response to the information, the shock, the fear, and the confrontation. There are horror stories – promoted most vehemently by the cults themselves – about restraint, beatings, and even rape. And we have to admit that we have met former members who have related to us their deprogramming experience – several of handcuffs, weapons wielded and sexual abuse. But thankfully, these are in the minority – and in our minds, never justified. Nevertheless, deprogramming helped to free many individuals held captive to destructive cults at a time when other alternatives did not seem viable. "
i mean, come on, that is just on wiki. these are testimonials, not opinions. I dont have much time since I am at work, but later tonight you will get a very long post and many more articles showing crimes from anti-cult organizatino members kidnapping people and such.
Quote:
Cult 1: formal religious veneration : worship 2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents 3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents 4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults> 5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion
1: $cientology claims to be a religious group (The Church of Scientology) 2: $cientology has a system of religious beliefs and rituals (audit anybody?) 3: $cientology is regarded as unorthodox (worship the alien Xenu) 4: $cientology claim that Dianetics is all one needs to remain healthy 5: $cientology have a great devotion to some dork named L. Ron Hubbard
you are right, I never said that scientology didnt fit the definition for cult.... but you failed to apply the same parameters to the shroomery. but I am trying to get it through your head that the label doesnt mean anything. It is like a 4 year old calling me a "doody head" and you are saying "OMG dude, the experts have called you a doody head, it must be leik, totally true".
I gotta go... but I will get back around to this post when I have time.
|
PoisonedV
Fuming Shrooming




Registered: 09/13/07
Posts: 398
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 9 years, 1 month
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7930751 - 01/25/08 04:34 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
YawningAnus said: but I am trying to get it through your head that the label doesnt mean anything. It is like a 4 year old calling me a "doody head" and you are saying "OMG dude, the experts have called you a doody head, it must be leik, totally true".
I gotta go... but I will get back around to this post when I have time.
Kind of like how you having limited experience with scientology you think you know everything about it?
-------------------- Lazy...
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: PoisonedV]
#7931012 - 01/25/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
test me.
you can ask me any question about what their beleifs are. Im not saying I know everything about scientology, but I know 10x more about it than anyone on this website. I used to live in clearwater, FL and had lots of friends that were sea org members... oh and my mother is OT7, but no longer practices. So... yeah, I am pretty fucking knowledgable on the subject. care to try and stump me?
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7931113 - 01/25/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
let me also add to all of this that I am not an advocate of scientology, nor am I neccessarily defending them. I just cant sit by and watch them get slandered on false information.
put it in context of you and mushrooms. You are ok with someone hating mushroom or drug use, but not if they are going to go aroudn saying "DUDE! anti-drug.org said shrooms make you gay and eat your brain! OMGZ".
Like I said before, im not a scientologist, and there are many things about the religion that I find deplorable, but that goes for every religion. there are lots of things I dont agree with about scientology... but nonetheless, it is a religion, and it should be given the respect as such. it is religious intolerance that irks me. how many scientologists have bothered you more than a jehovahs witness? how much have they personally intereferred in your life without you first initiating contact? i mean really, you want to make them out to be some ogre of a religion but what is it that they have done that is worse than rampant child molestation and then covering it up? worse than brahmans forcing widows onto funeral pyres? worse than all the wars caused in the name of the major religions deities?
oh i forgot, they sued people and corporations... that is way worse than allowing rampant molestation to go on for decades. oh and these organizations were attacking and suing scientology. it makes sense from the logic that is abundant in this thread... statements like, "I cant believe he is defending scientology". well there is a lose-lose... might as well have said "I cant believe he doesnt know we are completely right (eous)". "I cant believe scientology sued all those poor defensless organizations that attempted to bankrupt scientology through litigation.
ask yourself how much you know about scientology... seriously... how much do you really know? enough to hate them right? which is nothing... you dont need to know anything to hate... that is where it stems from - ignorance.
|
PoisonedV
Fuming Shrooming




Registered: 09/13/07
Posts: 398
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 9 years, 1 month
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7931421 - 01/25/08 06:35 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
tl;dr Nothing should get respect simply because it's a religion. I don't give a flying fuck if people fucking slander the fuck out of fucking scientology, because that fucking shits going to fucking happen if you are so goddamn fucking secretive about a bunch of fucking bullshit.
LOL GOOD VIBES MAN
-------------------- Lazy...
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: PoisonedV]
#7932010 - 01/25/08 08:36 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
what is secretive about it?
|
Chemy
Jesus is Lord

Registered: 10/05/07
Posts: 6,276
Loc: A Church
Last seen: 14 years, 1 month
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school *DELETED* [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7932196 - 01/25/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Post deleted by ChemyReason for deletion: If you are sure you want to do this, click the button below. Yes, I want to delete this post.
-------------------- Alcoholics Anonymous Narcotics Anonymous Get help, help is free and available 24/7/365. God bless you all and I hope you receive the help you need to turn away from your lives of sin. Mushrooms and drugs make you gay, you can reverse this homosexual condition with rehab, get help! Stop being gay!
Edited by Chemy (01/25/08 10:04 PM)
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Chemy]
#7932419 - 01/25/08 10:01 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
i dont get what the hang up is on OT3?
there are 7 other OT levels, as well as shit tons of courses. Plenty of material out there to base an opinion off of.
also, OT3 is about self auditing. It takes people sometimes years to be done with it... so it isnt someone sitting on a couch telling you that you need more sessions, it is over when you come to a certain cognition.
|
Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 1 hour, 51 minutes
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7932482 - 01/25/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
Source: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=57816&postcount=1
Summarized Experiences From Within the Cult Scientology
1. Not allowed to see my mom but once a day when I was six. Was only permitted to see her at dinner for one hour.
2. My mom was made to work 12 hour days and was only paid $50.00 a week and given room and board.
3. I was made to live in a dorm at the age of six, separate from my mom or dad, with three other girls my age.
4. I was made to believe from a very early age that Scientologist were the better than other people, and if you were not in it, you were not good enough.
5. I was told to only tell my grandparents good things about myself when I visited, to not let on if I was behind in school, but just make them think I am a great student.
6. Scientologists constantly refers to people outside of their 'religion" as "Wogs". A derogatory term used commonly by members in it.
7. I was made to join staff when I was 14. I had to sign a billion year contract because of their beliefs in reincarnation.
8. I had to stop attending school when I was 14, to join staff. I could only attend school one day a week on Sunday for about 10 hours.
9. I was made to live in a two room apartment with seven other women when I was 14. Overcrowding is commonplace. I live like that for most of my seven years on staff.
10. I had 30 minute lunches, breakfasts and dinners. If I was late back to work I would get in trouble.
11. I was working 10 hour days, six days a week, from the age of 16. I was not getting paid overtime. I was only making $50.00 a week.
12. The only time I would have off, was every other week, if my production was good enough. Sometimes I would go a month without even one day off.
13. When I joined, I would not see my mom for days at a time. She lived in a different dorm than I did, and had a different eating schedule than me.
14. At the age of 15 I was made to stay up until 12 pm every Thursday and Friday to attend Scientology meetings and clean their facilities with all the other staff.
15. After Scientology events we were all assigned a number of books or tapes we were suppose to sell to the public. We had to make our quotas before we were allowed to go home. I started selling books when I was 15. Sometimes we had to call from lists we were given to make our quotas. Most of these lists were to Scientologist who were out of the state or out of the country.
16. The staff was not aloud to eat the nice food put out for public after events. It was only for the public, we would get in trouble if we were caught eating it.
17. The staff was not allowed to socialize with the public after events, only to sell books, we could not join them on the dance floor, or in the auditorium.
18. The Hacienda (apartment complex where the staff live) is set up so that staff can not just get up and leave when they want to. The Premises is surrounded by a large gate and bushes so that people cannot see in easily. There are several cameras around the complex to keep an eye on the staff. There is a security guard at the front gate at all times to let people in and out. Staff may not leave without first explaining where they are going and what they are doing to the security guard.
19. Sea Org staff are not allowed to own televisions, mine was confiscated when I was 14 or 15. Staff are not aloud to watch TV ever. Movies are only allowed on the weekend if you get approval to have time off. Movies are not allowed on weekdays.
20. Most staff do not have cars or cell phones because it costs to much money to own them. If you have a car, you have to check with the security guard if you want to leave, if he is suspicious he will not let you leave.
21. The only days staff are allowed to celebrate and dance together is the Christmas party and Beer and Cheese party. Twice a year. Don't ask, neither of these celebrations make much sense.
22. I was forced to cut all ties with my dad when I was 15. He was declared a Suppressive Person by Scientology, and that meant I could no longer talk or associate myself with him at all.
23. My mom died of cancer when I was 16. She was still on staff at the time, and she wrote in her will she wanted my brother and I assigned the guardians of Rusty and Linda Hilton, both on staff at Flag.
24. Once I joined staff I could no longer visit my relatives or grandparents for even a weekend without prior approval. At times my once a year request was denied for whatever reason, or no one had the time to look at it.
25. I was not allowed to socialize with anyone outside of the staff. If I did I was reported on and pulled in for questioning.
26. I was put on the e-meter once a week, along with all the other staff, to see if I had a clean or dirty needle. Clean meant I was OK, dirty meant I was hiding something. If it was dirty I was pulled in for questioning, and made to write up stuff I thought I was hiding
27. After each live success story we were suppose to stand up, clap, and say hip hip hooray three times to LRHs picture. This was daily. After each course completion in Scientology we had to tell everyone in our class our successes, once we were done we had to clap and say hip hooray to LRHs picture. His pictures are everywhere in their buildings. It was not optional you had to do it.
28. I had to get a divorce while I was in Scientology because my husband wanted out, and I did not. I was actually not told he was leaving until the day he left. He didn't even tell me, I was told by someone who knew him. It is against their rules to speak or mention to anyone in Scientology you are leaving staff. If you do, you can get kicked out and never be able to talk to your friends in it again.
29. When I finally decided I wanted to leave because I missed my ex husband too much, I was not allowed to just go. They made me work in the galley scrubbing pots and pans. They said I could not mention to anyone I wanted to leave, but everyone pretty much knew what I was doing. It took me three months of being separated from the group, all my friends, being put on the e-meter (lie detector) for two weeks straight and asked if I intend to contact my dad when I leave. I finally was aloud to leave, but was told I was moving to New Mexico to work for a Scientology school. I was told I could not return to Clearwater at all.
30. They made me sign a 10,000.00 waiver, promising that I would never talk out about my experiences with Scientology. I had to sign it before they would let me leave.
31. I was assigned handlers when I wanted to leave. I could not leave any of the buildings or walk outside without one of them. There are security guards assigned to each building, video cameras at each building entrance and exit, so if I wanted to leave without my handler, they would know.
32. I returned to Clearwater about a year after they sent me away. I was approached by one of their security guards and asked what I was doing here. I was on a public street on my lunch break. I just ignored him and walked away. They still thought they could control me, even though I was no longer on staff.
33. When my brother found out I was talking to my dad again, he refused to talk to me anymore. Now that I have associate myself with my dad, I am also declared, which means my brother can't talk to me.
34. Once I left, my "legal guardians' have never contacted me or spoke to me, even before I was declared.
35. I do not have one single friend I knew before I left Scientology (2002). They have all chosen to write me off because I no longer am a Sceintologist. Once I was declared, I was deleted from about 15 peoples myspace page. I did not delete them , they deleted me.
36. I am not allowed to talk to my Scientology school or teachers. They will also no longer talk to me. Once I left staff, they no longer thought it necessary to associate themselves with me.
37. I did not have a High School diploma when I left in 2002. I was 20 years old. Once I was married, they said I was now considered an adult and I no longer needed to attend school. I was only 17 when I married.
38. I never learned to drive, I now have a car, but driving was something they did not think was necessary.
|
SneezingPenis
ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111!

Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 15,427
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7932554 - 01/25/08 10:34 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
|
|
1) I think you omitted the part about how this was a person in the Sea Org, which are people that work for scientology.... this half fabricated list isnt talking about an experience as a member of the church. 2) half of that stuff is true, maybe later when I have time I will line item it.... but it seems to me that the original posting of that quoted post has been altered to make it sound worse.. such as times, payment and such.... 3) taken out of context of what the sea org is, or how it operates, it makes it seem worse than it is. believe me, I pity anyone working in the sea org... but I pity anyone in the military as well, and that is what the sea org was designed after. notice the similarities? going AWOL... dishonorable discharge... just different words for the same thing.
Life in the Sea Org really is hardly any different than life in a military school or even the military.
|
Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 1 hour, 51 minutes
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7933644 - 01/26/08 03:21 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
|
|
> Life in the Sea Org really is hardly any different than life in a military school or even the military.
I guess the Sea Org sucks pretty bad then.
|
dtugg
Druggie


Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 355
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7933747 - 01/26/08 04:59 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
|
|
www.xenu.net
For anybody who wants to know what Scientology is really all about.
|
|