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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school *DELETED* [Re: impgl]
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Chemy]
#7915884 - 01/22/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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What was the part about LSD again?
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: impgl]
#7915911 - 01/22/08 05:32 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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i used to think scientology was just some 'science' thing. OMG thats horrible.... im scared.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Chemy]
#7916208 - 01/22/08 06:26 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Chemy said: Religion is poison.
These are the words Chairman Mao said to the Dalai Lama after the Chinese started their takeover of Tibet and began commiting cultural genocide, killing thousands of Tibetans and destroying Tibetan Buddhism in the cultural revolution.
I would have used a different choice of words given the context of this famous phrase.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: impgl]
#7916255 - 01/22/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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The reason why scientology seems crazier than other religons is that it is newer, and just getting into mainstream and we humans haven't 'accepted' it overall yet. Christianity: A story about a women giving birth without getting impregnated, having a child who IS HIS OWN FATHER, who performs various unrelated 'miracles' and later gets killed, doesn't save himself, and then comes back as a zombie prince, who strangely all his information resembles other historic religions down to a t, yet everyone still follows it. All religions sound ridiculous, all religions are ridiculous. Scientology is just another badly thought out scam. People want to feel secure? Fine, fuck them, give them their goddamn lies.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: PoisonedV]
#7916468 - 01/22/08 07:10 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Scientology is just another badly thought out scam
Actually I think it is a fairly well thought out scam...
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SoY]
#7920455 - 01/23/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Seuss, why do you have to sneak away to the dark corners of the shroomery to recycle lame anti-scieno arguments that I have personally debunked in other threads?
every single person that has posted a "fact" in this thread that rails againsdt scientology is grossly innacurate. now, the news article was somewhat accurate, but the crap that some of these posters are spewing is pure anectdotal or completely fabricated bullshit.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school *DELETED* [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7920553 - 01/23/08 04:45 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Chemy]
#7921339 - 01/23/08 07:25 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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actually I do....
and I guess that any opinion typed up on Wikipedia is factual information now huh?
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7921459 - 01/23/08 07:51 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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> and I guess that any opinion typed up on Wikipedia is factual information now huh?
Scientology articles are pretty closely monitored, if you put some wacky opinion in there it won't last two minutes.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7923031 - 01/24/08 03:05 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Members of the Church of Scientology widely deny or try to hide the Xenu story.
that is what I was referring to. he states it like it is some fact.
basically all the information that you think you know about scientology, is some second hand information that you got from someone who got a tiny peice of information and "extrapolated" a theory of how it fits into scientology. even the news media is grossly inaccurate when it discusses scientology.
Im not denying the xenu story... it is something that is taught as doctrine to high level scientologists... but it is the equivalent of the story of Job in the bible to christianity. it isnt the core of their beliefs, not even close...
as for the money thing.... my mother is OT 7, which is the second highest level a non sea org member can be. She did this while raising me on her own making 30k a year, and still managed to send me to college.... and just last year she became debt free... so go crunch some numbers and figure that one out.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7923051 - 01/24/08 03:38 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Seuss, why do you have to sneak away to the dark corners of the shroomery to recycle lame anti-scieno arguments that I have personally debunked in other threads?
Sneak away to dark corners? Please. 
I've seen the $cientology cult ruin people that I care deeply about. It is personal for me.
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every single person that has posted a "fact" in this thread that rails againsdt scientology is grossly innacurate.
I stated that $cientology is a cult. Fact, they used to be listed on almost every known cult watch list. Unfortunately, their brainwashed membership sued the cult lists into bankruptcy, purchased the cult watch groups, or started their own cult watch groups. Although they are no longer listed, it is not because they are not a cult.
I stated that $cientology charges for "audits" and other activities necessary to be a member. Although the cult's web site states (paraphrased to avoid a copyright lawsuit) "it is free if you can't afford it", the truth is they are not interested in you if you do not have money. This is VERY easy to prove. Walk into any of the cult's $cientology Centers and play yourself as a completely broke person without anything at all that wants to join the 'church'. You will be quickly escorted to the door. Talk to anybody that is a member of the cult and ask them how much money they have 'given' over time. Those $2000 audits add up quickly.
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now, the news article was somewhat accurate, but the crap that some of these posters are spewing is pure anectdotal or completely fabricated bullshit.
Ok, what part of my above two claims is fabricated bullshit? The part that $cientology members sued the cult watch lists into bankruptcy, or the part that $cientology members have to pay large sums of money to progress into the cult?
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Seuss]
#7923157 - 01/24/08 05:47 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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xenu aside scientology is still insane to join. Just look at this group of happy followers.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: funnybunny]
#7923163 - 01/24/08 05:55 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Were all being brainwashed through. School. Media. Universitys. Work. Laws. Its crazy.
Don't eat the propaganda!!!!
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Cubie]
#7923830 - 01/24/08 11:15 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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That video is great. Those scientologists used every lame debate trick in the book - ad hominem attacks, changing the subject when he mentions anything they don't like, etc. I've never seen those tactics used in such a clumsy and obvious manor.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: Seuss]
#7924250 - 01/24/08 01:29 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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every single person that has posted a "fact" in this thread that rails againsdt scientology is grossly innacurate.
I stated that $cientology is a cult. Fact, they used to be listed on almost every known cult watch list.
let me stop you right here. It is rather hilarious that you think there is some agency out there that objectively labels groups as cults, and therefor makes it so. The reason why those organizations were able to be sued into bankruptcy by scientology was because they were engaged in illegal and unethical activity such as spreading vast amounts of false information (libel and slander) as well as attempting to infiltrate and steal documents.... oh not to mention that they would capture scientology members and restrain them against there will, sometimes even sedating them all in the name of "deprogramming". but since you are so hung up on this term "cult", let me show you what the definition is according to Merriam-Webster. Cult 1: formal religious veneration : worship 2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents 3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents 4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults> 5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
By some of those definitions, could the shroomery be considered a cult? by one of those definitions, wouldnt that make any religious ceremony... "cultish"? an act of religious veneration.... kind of covers everything huh?
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I stated that $cientology charges for "audits" and other activities necessary to be a member.
and you would be wrong on that statement. also, what is considered "other activities"? you mean something like the way christians have retreats and go camping and everyone pays to go on the trip? what are these mysterious "other activities"? the book Dianetics teaches you how to audit yourself... so there goes that theory.
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Although the cult's web site states (paraphrased to avoid a copyright lawsuit) "it is free if you can't afford it", the truth is they are not interested in you if you do not have money.
that isnt the truth. I personally know many people who have received free scientology courses, books, and auditing.
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This is VERY easy to prove. Walk into any of the cult's $cientology Centers and play yourself as a completely broke person without anything at all that wants to join the 'church'. You will be quickly escorted to the door.
again, not true. also, weak debating here... speculative and anecdotal. Quote:
Talk to anybody that is a member of the cult and ask them how much money they have 'given' over time. Those $2000 audits add up quickly.
so that is how much auditing costs? im curious of what you think you know. also... you say cost, while others would say donation. and how do you explain how my mother became OT7 while raising me, and putting me through college while making 30k a year?
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Ok, what part of my above two claims is fabricated bullshit? The part that $cientology members sued the cult watch lists into bankruptcy, or the part that $cientology members have to pay large sums of money to progress into the cult?
I think I just showed you that both were inaccurate, and that most of it is fabricated bullshit. see this is what I was talking about.... you get ahold of some tiny tidbit of information, and without any understanding of the religion or its practices, you conjure up these delusional theories in your head of how it works or what it means. I have no problem with anyone hating scientology. I dont even care if you want to openly protest it.... but do it from a knowledgable standpoint rather than spouting tired crap from websites solely designed to spread lies about scientology. Do you even know what auditing is? do you know anything about scientology other than what other people have told you?
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7924723 - 01/24/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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i've been into scientology buildings myself (granted, i myself, have been anti religion since the pre pubescent age)to see if this group had something that just wowed me. lol. naaaaaah. same wackyness as any other imo. but hopefully, tomorrow, ill have time in between deliveries to plop into a scientology building myself. ill let ya know how it goes
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7925094 - 01/24/08 04:48 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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No one cares about your crazy belief system, save it for M&tP.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: fapjack]
#7925129 - 01/24/08 04:58 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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its not my belief system. I am not a scientologist.
I am just someone that knows a lot about it, as well as have lots of exposure to it and dont feel comfortable letting people spread ignorance about it.
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Re: Scientologists enlist police to push antidrugs drive in school [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7925188 - 01/24/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Well I don't feel comfortable hearing you rant on about that crackpot belief system. It is based upon some asshole's get rich quick scheme, I mean seriously, how fucking gullible can you be?
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