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Mystic_Cannibal
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evokation ritual for the ouija board?
#7912088 - 01/21/08 08:57 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hey I was just reading a new book I got called Aleister Crowley and the Ouija Board and although I havent gotten very far in it yet and it is pretty interesting I am somewhat dissapointed at its lack or rituals. (I ordered it off amazon so I wasnt sure what I was getting) I have myself a ouija board and am fully aware of its negative potentials thank you very much, I know full well most of spirits the average person would get are lower astral and probably less reliable then a random stranger on the street. However this being said I do believe that with proper rituals like the LBRP and LBH and otherwise conducted in a proper manner it is safe to use and has good potential.Though Ill always take the info with a grain of salt. I am wondering if anyone can reccomend an evokation ritual to use with the ouija board for the purpose of calling down divinities or at least higher spirits. Maybe specific entities or just reliable ones in general. I have a ceremonial magick book with a ritual of evokation for a black mirror, but since I dont have one I havent learned it, does anyone know if this would be suitable for a ouija board? I suppose opening the watch towers maybe applicable after the LBRP and BRH but I would preferably like to avoid enochian stuff. I am coming at this from a chaos magick perspective if that helps anyone.
Also I was thinking about putting a crystal on my pointer to see if it would change anything, I was thinking sodalite as I have extra one and its supposedly good for divination. Let me know if anyone has ever heard of doing this, if I find a good ritual Ill let peopel know if the crystal does anything.
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
#7912153 - 01/21/08 09:07 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Just open a circle and ask for whatever is around. That is all anyone ever gets even with fancy made up spells. Since demons aren't omnipresent or omniscient they can only hear you if they are nearby...so you wont get anything but familiars pretending to be people that they followed around for their whole lives. Ouija isn't even fun to me anymore. My life was absolute shit when I practiced magicks and I am certain that it was the cause of a good portion of the misery in my life. So have fun with that.
eat shrooms and be happy. Jacking up the hatemeter and ragefactor I spent years just wishing I would die but felt unworthy enough to actually get there, figured I would end up a vegetable. Now I am gald I didn't cuz my life suck at points but overall it is the shit.
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: rizingfire]
#7912189 - 01/21/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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yeah i dont recomend fucking with magic or spirits
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
#7912326 - 01/21/08 09:31 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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neither, an old friend lost his mind for a while
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Mystic_Cannibal
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Re: evocation ritual for the Ouija board? [Re: deranger]
#7913259 - 01/22/08 12:25 AM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hmm well Ive been into the occult for about 6 years now and it has maybe had some bad effects on my life but over all in the long run its more then likely saved me from being dead right now or on heroin. The bad things that did happen were my own fault in retrospect. I do understand its not something to be dabbled in. I do still think there is ways to get positive spirits through the Ouija though like I already said I know not to take that to seriously. Ive already had my fair share of horror stories from not using the board correctly.
The thing about magick is that its a spiritual or alchemical process, and if you have egotistical reasons for trying to do magick you will be destroyed. To use the use the alchemical metaphor if you stoke the fires to high to fast you will get burned. Also their is the process of putrefaction in which all impurities of your life are rotted away, this is really a tough thing to get through and anyone who isn't willing to totally change their life for the good should definitely avoid magick. This is where most people experience bad things as pretty much everything their ego loves is more or less destroyed from their life. Dabbling in magick is definitely a no no, it is either all the way or nothing at all.. I am not saying I am pure or anything but I am aware that you have to have pure intentions and spirits especially aren't to be fooled with. At any rate this doesn't have anything really to do with the thread but thanks for the warnings I know you have my best intentions at heart. And don't worry I definitely do no mess around with invocations and not normally with evocations unless there is a very good reason.
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Re: evocation ritual for the Ouija board? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
#7914804 - 01/22/08 02:01 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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just watch out for "super hell". i think if you have messed with magic you already have gone all the way and its a never ending way that doesnt turn around and yeah purity is key but you gota watch out for sacrific of the pure ones
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
#7915234 - 01/22/08 03:35 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
#7916176 - 01/22/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Back when we were moving into my Dad's house we were tearing down the walls when we found an Ouija board.
And this was no glow in the dark parker bros. POS this was the real deal. It was a cross section of a tree w/ the board burned into it, then varnished and sealed. I was pretty young at the time but now that I'm older I sometimes wonder about that board.
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: CosmicFool]
#7919054 - 01/23/08 08:14 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ouija works no different than ones own mind. It would be truer to say that people know less about their own mind's workings than even about 'spirits.'
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: eve69]
#7926074 - 01/24/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Ouija is a crude form of communication IMO, and in my experiance it only picks up lower-astral beings anyway. My spirit guides prefer to communicate with cards, and scrying.
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Re: evocation ritual for the Ouija board? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
#7952941 - 01/29/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Mystic_Cannibal said: Hmm well Ive been into the occult for about 6 years now and it has maybe had some bad effects on my life but over all in the long run its more then likely saved me from being dead right now or on heroin. The bad things that did happen were my own fault in retrospect. I do understand its not something to be dabbled in. I do still think there is ways to get positive spirits through the Ouija though like I already said I know not to take that to seriously. Ive already had my fair share of horror stories from not using the board correctly.
The thing about magick is that its a spiritual or alchemical process, and if you have egotistical reasons for trying to do magick you will be destroyed. To use the use the alchemical metaphor if you stoke the fires to high to fast you will get burned. Also their is the process of putrefaction in which all impurities of your life are rotted away, this is really a tough thing to get through and anyone who isn't willing to totally change their life for the good should definitely avoid magick. This is where most people experience bad things as pretty much everything their ego loves is more or less destroyed from their life. Dabbling in magick is definitely a no no, it is either all the way or nothing at all.. I am not saying I am pure or anything but I am aware that you have to have pure intentions and spirits especially aren't to be fooled with. At any rate this doesn't have anything really to do with the thread but thanks for the warnings I know you have my best intentions at heart. And don't worry I definitely do no mess around with invocations and not normally with evocations unless there is a very good reason.
Not that you have to share, but I would be interested in what your intentions are for this anyway?
The thing about spirits is that they don't necessarily go away when you are done with them.
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
#7969424 - 02/02/08 04:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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never had luck with Ouija - lots of time spent just waiting.
oh well
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you can summon spirits/demons without a ouija board or rituals or anything if your mind has crossed a few borders. it only takes a spark of the true will to call out anything you desire.
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7978973 - 02/04/08 06:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Me and some friends experimented once with the basic premis Crowley puts forth in that book. We worked with an enochian angel and we used an elemental opening pertaining to the elemental tablet we were calling from. The results were hard to desciher but the few words and phrases we got seemed to confirm its presence. There was some comunication which was in enochian and/or refered to aspects of enochian we were not aware of during the time but which we confirmed to be true on checking.
The main thing I think would have to be done is frequent work with the being, not just once like we did. Frequency bulids a bridge as I think Crowley points out in that book. But frequency is also dangerous because it leads to obsession and a particular form of obsesssion unique to ouji boards so there is danger if you are in touch with an imposter spirit and don't realize it, which is very likely with the ouiji.
We fealt that the lrbp and grade oepening set up a field of energy whcih would filter out the lower spirits. In the little we got it seemed to pertain to what we were calling. However because of the low plane access the board offers I think we got alot of random letters like static whcih without the opening might have been misleading info by imposter spirits.
I'm not in chaos magick so I don't know what to suggest. Basically for using the board in conjunction with evocation I would suggest writing a ritual aroud the nature of the being you want to work with. Definately an lbrp first, then invoke. Use incense in harmony with the being, perhaps make a talisman for it also and place it in a triangle. Put into the talsiman all the symbolism you can think of like metals stones, herbs, etc. You could inscribe the sygil of the being on candles which you place around the triangle and perhaps the board. The more symbolism and materials in harmony with the being, especially incense, then the stronger the field of energy/ or aura of the room will be in harmony with the being, and that energy it will feed on to manifest for you. Also you yourself should harmonise yourself with the being through invocations and prayers and proper pentagrams and hexagrams associated with the being. Your own energy is necessary for the being to feed off of to give a medium to manifest on our dense plane. Fasting and sensory deprivation for about a week leading up to it (Like a proper 9/10 day Solomonic purification) plus frequent skrying of the beings sygil in the days leading up to the working will help "tune" your aura to the frequency of the being you wish to call.
I don't work with the ouji board but it is something I always felt would be worth investigating further. I think if the atmosphere is charged then it would keep away the lower beings. But I think frequent applications of this approach is necessary to getting any substantial results. You shouldn't expect too much in the first 2 or 3 times.
Good luck and of coarse excercise caution, check yourself and be honest with yourself to see if it affects your personality negatively in the time following each operation.
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Quote:
Oracle Of Delphi said: never had luck with Ouija - lots of time spent just waiting.
oh well
i consider that luck
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Oracle Of Delphi
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Re: evokation ritual for the ouija board? [Re: hazey]
#7991663 - 02/07/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hazey said:
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Oracle Of Delphi said: never had luck with Ouija - lots of time spent just waiting.
oh well
i consider that luck
i dont know - i fam strong enough to not be susceptible to 'wandering spirits' - i really wanted to make 'contact' but always found it disappointing. Thats not 100% true - My mom and I seem to be a good combo, so that it works. Other than that - its just dead. pardon the pun.
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