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one thing not clear is heat.
    #7911498 - 01/21/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 11 days ago)

I read everything before i post, got that. I'm going to forgo pkjars and just go straight to corn and straw.I got a good green thumb:thumbup: kind of a family thing? guess grow up around farming/garden work(hey help your dad with the garden) you learn alot.And the things you hated to do know intrest you.Since you know what your doing i guess? Anyways as far as keeping the temp even. i was looking at getting those lizard heading pads putting in fish pump with bubbler for air and moisture. Throw a blue light in and set it up on timers. Now if i wanted too i could go to the mushroom farm up the road and pick up there "shit" bags they use? I dont know if they have spore in them?? Left bag sit out in the garden and thier mushrooms pop?
Got the books and rr dvd on the way. growing seems fool proof? And you can control things alot more then outside.
So liz heating pad with some lava rock ontop of that then straw with a fish tank bubbler and light on timers.have an exit down by the lava rock for co2. I dont have an old coal mine like the company down the road but i thing a cooler or rubbermade tub will do?
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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: deadmeat986]
    #7912554 - 01/21/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 11 days ago)

Okay first things first: Gardening and cultivating mushrooms have as much in common as rebuilding an engine and cultivating mushrooms. There are rules you need to follow and things you should probably avoid but beyond that they have nothing in common :smile:. Just follow the RR videos "Let's Grow Mushrooms" on youtube and then search the site for all other info and you should be golden. The thing about the lizard pad is this it's going to be near alot of moisture. Moisture and electric things not made for moisture are not good mixes.

The bags from the mushroom farm down the street could be good but if they have spores in them already are NOT good. Also, it might start looking suspcious if you're down there every other week buying 5-6 bags. "I'm growing and eating all these! Promise!" Yeaaaaaahhhh. :wink: Just find a farm that has horse or cow shit and go from there. Just go to a stable and take some of their's. They're happy to get rid of it and you can claim it's for your garden/compost.

And growing is anything BUT foolproof. There are devious fools who manage trust me. Don't trust in dumb luck. Follow procedures and good sterile tek and you'll be fine.

Rubbermaid tub for an FC and your FC is very sketchily laid out at best. Describe it better and we'll be able to give you a better idea.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7912811 - 01/21/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 11 days ago)

you dont need the heating pad


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7915497 - 01/22/08 04:29 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

They make tropical heater made for troipcal plants. Friends got one of those tree frogs with troipc moss and ect things in the tank.it is it own biodome.
Well i will give it a try but remember our biggiest discovers where plain dumb luck:grin:
my box i was "thinking";)lol would be fish tank air pump bubbler to put fresh air and moisten the air. glue small light bulb for "plant growth" on top (low watt).lava rock on the bottom with tropic heater on low heating the rocks little and bulk on top. Or inside the bottle for my air bubbler i could put a fish tank heater so the moist air will be warm. i could put this in a cooler or rubbermade tubs with inslated box around it.
well i'll try with a little batch see what happens.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: deadmeat986]
    #7915601 - 01/22/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

was not going to use the heat in the colony part. just put jars in closet. FC is what i was looking at for temp moist and air.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: deadmeat986]
    #7915711 - 01/22/08 05:00 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Unless your grow space is less than 65 or so degrees, forget about the heating pad. If your grow space is below 65 degrees, your best bet is to find a new space to grow. Heating the fruiting chamber and not the room will cause condensation on the inner walls of the FC and thusly lower the humidity in chamber. If you want to, you can use another Rubbermaid of the same size as you fruiting chamber, and fill that with water. Then put a fish tank heater in it and put your fruiting chamber in that. Adjust it to maintain a temperature of ~70-75 degrees. This will probably work much better, and is proven.

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Now if i wanted too i could go to the mushroom farm up the road and pick up there "shit" bags they use?



Is this the stuff they use prior to spawning the mushrooms, or the stuff they sell after the mushrooms have had their way with it? Post-growth "Mushroom Compost" isn't what you want.

Read these ->-> Magash Rye Tek & Poor Man's Pod

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growing seems fool proof?



HA! You had better read some more. If you think this is foolproof, you may be in for a rude awakening.

Good Luck.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: thedefone]
    #7915760 - 01/22/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

There is no need for additional heat sources, room temp is fine for the entire cycle.

While it is true that myc will grow fastest at 84-86 degrees, so will contams, also your sub will dry out faster at that temp.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: DoctorRobert]
    #7915984 - 01/22/08 05:47 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

The light inside the FC is not the best idea... Firstly, that is too much light, and second it produces heat which can compromise the whole operation. I have a heating pad under my FC, but it is at the lowest setting when I'm home and don't want to heat my whole house. Other than like looks like you're off to a good start.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: thedefone]
    #7920467 - 01/23/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Well the area that i can grow in the winter is in the garage. heated above freezing but that's it. I can move my shrooms out in my art studio march april its inslated; but heated only when working on my sculpture.I know the mushroom mine is about 65 year round ground heat. and you can get both fresh or used compost bags but its basicly the same maybe they have little extra stuff, company recipe? Used is free bagged is not. i'll just make my own bulk.

Yea i was thinking the 2 tub methoed posted here. But was not sure. I'm going to just follow what everyone here does and what i take from rr and anything else wroth doing.
Thanks


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: deadmeat986]
    #7920516 - 01/23/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Yea i was thinking the 2 tub methoed posted here.



Tub in Tub is my suggestion to you for heat, if that's what you mean.

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you can get both fresh or used compost bags but its basicly the same maybe they have little extra stuff, company recipe? Used is free bagged is not.



Spend the money. Used mushroom compost is inadequate. Still don't believe little old me? Read this, this, and this.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: DoctorRobert]
    #7920518 - 01/23/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

well the only thing about the temp i thought is. myc will grow in the 65-70 no problem but reading other tek stuff talks about 70 75 even 80 for FC. now 70 temp in winter?? how? someone paying your heating bill? summer not a problem my studio is 10-15 deg cooler then out side but on fall spring days my studio can be chilly inside on a 75 day outside until air moves around.so little heat set on low just keep in the ball park on a timer be fine? Well thats my thinking.
thanks helping qwink my ideas.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: thedefone]
    #7920526 - 01/23/08 04:41 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Well, a garage at 33 degrees is going to be nearly impossible to heat anyway.

Don't you have an extra closet?


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: thedefone]
    #7920564 - 01/23/08 04:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

no i believe ya i'll juat make my own bulk no big deal.Trust me i've spent three weeks now reading on this and going over what you guys said. I think i can do it but just going to try small batch see if it works. that way i save time and money.
thanks


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: DoctorRobert]
    #7920567 - 01/23/08 04:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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now 70 temp in winter?? how? someone paying your heating bill?



Yeah. Me. It was 35 degrees below zero last week and my house never got below 65. You are over-thinking this. Make a tub in tub heater for you incubator. To fruit you can tub in tub a PMP if you want. Or if you want to make it really easy, move your operation indoors and save the hassle.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: thedefone]
    #7920583 - 01/23/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Coir for bulk works great, by the way. Good luck.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: DoctorRobert]
    #7920626 - 01/23/08 04:55 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

more like 40 or so. with a space heater you can get it up to 65 in couple of hr. to refill the propan tank for shrooms?? its about 300 bucks. Umm i real dont want mushroom smell in the house you can smell the shroom mine 5 miles away if the wind blows right.:tongue2: i think use the 2 tub fish tank just throw inslation on the bottom and top keep cold off it and heat in should stay warm? Give it a shot if it works then share my findings
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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: deadmeat986]
    #7920881 - 01/23/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

If you go the PF tek route, the IDEAL tek for your climate, then you have an FC, which doesn't amit the smell until you FAE. Using the heater would produce quite a bit of c02, so you would need fresh air anyway... Fuck man, go PK Tek, in an FC, in your fucking house. :smile:


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: verminute]
    #7920888 - 01/23/08 05:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I think he's smelling the compost at the farm, not mushrooms. My FC has no smell whatsoever.


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Re: one thing not clear is heat. [Re: thedefone]
    #7920894 - 01/23/08 05:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Oh, I think you're right...

I love the smell of my FC, which is not much at all...


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