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Madtowntripper
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Re: Democratic Hypocrisy [Re: SirTripAlot]
#7917570 - 01/22/08 09:59 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: If Clinton were to mix religion with her message, .....would her message would be any more wrong, if she were to pitch her socialized medicine plan using biblical references?
Yes.
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Re: Democratic Hypocrisy [Re: afoaf]
#7917590 - 01/22/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Na, man
What I am trying to point out, is that Madtowntripper believes that there is no contradiction, when Dem's make a stomping ground of churches...all the while professing "Separation of church and state"
I am simply pointing out that indeed, tax money is used for Clinton for her to make these stops.
Like I eluded to before...its up to the candidate and congregation....but I find this to be extremely full of hypocrisy.
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So as long as it is a secular thought...not one based on religion......interesting.
So even if the end result is the same, in this case socialized medicine.....if it was based on some biblical teaching (like taking care of thee poor) its not kosher?
Don't get the logic.
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Re: Democratic Hypocrisy [Re: SirTripAlot]
#7918106 - 01/22/08 11:43 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: Well,rather get into a semantics argument with you....., do you find it OK, the taxpayer's money is used when Hilary makes her traditional stop at the local black church? Shouldn't she only be limited to non religious, public places?
(referring to the Secret Service she requires)
If Clinton were to mix religion with her message, .....would her message would be any more wrong, if she were to pitch her socialized medicine plan using biblical references?
wow what a stupid agrument to have. why shouldnt a political canidate be able to be protected where ever the want to campaign and whats wrong with campaigning in a church. if a canidate wants to reach out to people of a certain faith, then whatever.
I dont think this is a big deal at all. Who cares? If Romney wants to go and preach to all his Mormon buddies thats fine with me.
The whole point is trying to deliver your message and your belief to as many people as possible in hopes that some of them will end up voting for you. I really dont see the big deal
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Wow, what a semi - coherent troll you have going on up there.
Read my whole thread, make some decisions, you might just be able to find that lost action figure in the sandbox.
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And what if Clinton starts getting religous while in church????
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/11/30/2007-11-30_hillary_clinton_makes_visit_to_californi.html
Hillary Clinton makes visit to California evangelical megachurch By NANCY DILLON DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Friday, November 30th 2007, 4:00 AM
LAKE FOREST, Calif. - Democratic White House hopeful Hillary Clinton made a rare visit to an evangelical megachurch Thursday to burnish her image with the religious right.
Clinton took pains to quote scripture, invoke her White House prayer group and recall her devout Christian upbringing during a speech to 1,000 attendees of the Global Summit on AIDS at California's nationally influential Saddleback Church.
"I've often been asked if I'm a praying person, and I have always responded that I was fortunate enough to be raised to understand the power and purpose of prayer.
"Had I not been, probably one week in the White House would have turned me into one," she said to laughter and applause at the country's fourth-largest church.
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Madtowntripper
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Again, where is she trying to make me do something based on her religious beliefs, as the Christian Right does on a daily basis?
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Like I said does that matter?
She wants to make you give more money to the government, this is based on her secular beliefs....whats the point?
Can you please provide me with specific information that shows secular thought, trumping or is somehow more effective, then religious thought?
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