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InvisibleMinstrel
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Re: Black Tuesday 2008 [Re: Diploid]
    #7921420 - 01/23/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Diploid said:
I wonder why China isn't on there.




China is not on there because it's per capita. They have a huge population, but the consumption of each individual is pretty low.


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Re: Black Tuesday 2008 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7921434 - 01/23/08 07:44 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Did the sky already fall and i miss it!!!!:sad:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Black Tuesday 2008 [Re: zorbman]
    #7929691 - 01/25/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

It was only so long before our unsustainable debt and our outrageous spending habits put us in a hole. Let's hope we learn something from this...


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Re: Black Tuesday 2008 [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #7932606 - 01/25/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Let's hope we learn something from this...




Oh, we will learn our lesson well. But not before this crisis fully unfolds. Presently our society and government are in gridlock because times have been good.

Societies do not normally make large-scale changes until they are compelled by circumstances.

Revolutionary candidates like Ron Paul are only elected in times of great peril.

Candle wax is most easily shaped when the flame is hot.

We will probably solve this for a great price. We will get back to fundamentals and stop lying to ourselves as our national past time.

We will face the crisis only when it is fully on top of us. Those who will live through it will never forget the lessons. Future generations who did not will start the cycle all over again..

Those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it.


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Re: Black Tuesday 2008 [Re: zorbman]
    #7933472 - 01/26/08 02:07 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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zorbman said:
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Societies do not normally make large-scale changes until they are compelled by circumstances.





I totally agree with this. It's my opinion that the only way our country will get out of foreign wars of conquest is if a draft is imposed, forcing people out of their comfort zone (i.e. consumerist daze) and fight for their self-interest. It is the only way people will really start to rise up and have an impact on policy as they did during the Vietnam War.

Likewise perhaps a traumatic rise in oil prices, which seems plausable, may shock us into enacting more ecologically and economically sound alternatives. Just a thought  :shrug:


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Re: Black Tuesday 2008 [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #7934151 - 01/26/08 09:41 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

You are dead on man, Europe needed two world wars!


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