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templeton1
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PF Tek Cakes ---- CAN I CASE NOW?
#7910238 - 01/21/08 04:06 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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This is my first grow, so i chose to use the PF Tek method:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7869454#7869454
All things considered, I am lucky to have gotten 1/4 oz. dry out of the one cake's first flush... but now i am looking for a little more yield.
My question is this: Could I use these 2 cakes that have been in a terrarium (both of which were soaked, dunked and rolled / one of which actually fruited) and one remaining cake that has been colonized but not yet birthed for a casing approach? Is it a problem that the cakes have already been used?
If this is a potential option, what casing mixture should i use? The cakes consist of vermiculite, organic brown rice flour, and water---so I'm assuming that the casing would be the same...
So to make it a little more concise:
-Will it work? -What casing mixture? -How long would it take to colonize the casing before seeing pins?
any help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance
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templeton1
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Re: PF Tek Cakes ---- CAN I CASE NOW? [Re: templeton1]
#7910248 - 01/21/08 04:09 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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1.) crumble the cakes or surround them by extra casing?
2.) if i was to crumble, should i just crumble each cake and have each in its own container, or should i keep them all in the same container?
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Re: PF Tek Cakes ---- CAN I CASE NOW? [Re: templeton1]
#7910357 - 01/21/08 04:25 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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Your terminology is off a little. What you are talking about is spawning your PF cakes to more BRF/verm. A casing is a non-nutritious layer on top of your colonized substrate that provides moisture for your mushrooms. Some people call a cased substrate a casing also.
But back to your question, no I wouldn't try this as it is likely to contaminate. If you want to spawn to anything, it should be a properly prepared bulk substrate such as horse poo, coco coir or straw. You should also not use a cake that has already fruited as spawn. You want to use the spawn while the myc is still in colonization mode, not after fruiting.
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Re: PF Tek Cakes ---- CAN I CASE NOW? [Re: FooMan]
#7910507 - 01/21/08 04:46 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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Yeah I agree with FooManShroom, If you want bigger yields I suggest you start knocking up Grain jars.
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templeton1
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Re: PF Tek Cakes ---- CAN I CASE NOW? [Re: DontPlay]
#7911039 - 01/21/08 06:23 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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alright, thanks for the help all.
sorry about my improper terminology, im learning...
So would you recommend that I just aim for another flush in cake form? Should i just soak them in cold water for 24 hours and then roll them in dry vermiculite again?
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Re: PF Tek Cakes ---- CAN I CASE NOW? [Re: templeton1]
#7911058 - 01/21/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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That's your best bet.
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