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Icelander
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It's bred in the bone.:(
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Now, now, it's unlikely that there is any Heaven or Hell which we do not create within our own life experiences. If hugging Red Pandas is heavenly for some, then why not go for it? Will it really make a difference either way?
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Icelander said: I was but I need the money for a red panda to go along with my pet rock.
I must have a black thumb. My pet rock died from neglect.
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Veritas]
#7924836 - 01/24/08 03:52 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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It might to the Pandas.
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Icelander said: I was but I need the money for a red panda to go along with my pet rock.
I must have a black thumb. My pet rock died from neglect.
Really? Usually they die from being overfed.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Veritas]
#7924842 - 01/24/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Haha if aliens ever see our internet their gonna think were prevs. They will probley get a good laugh
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Cubie]
#7924844 - 01/24/08 03:55 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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If?
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The Pandas will all die eventually, anyway, as will the humans. If we play with them during our brief mutual time on this planet, what difference does it make? (Besides the individuals involved, I mean.)
I'd rather have a Sugar Flyer, but each to his/her own.
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Veritas]
#7924853 - 01/24/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Veritas said: The Pandas will all die eventually, anyway, as will the humans. If we play with them during our brief mutual time on this planet, what difference does it make?
I think Hitler felt this way.
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The Pandacaust?
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No, Hitler did not feel that way. He thought that he could have a lasting impact upon humanity's future through "racial cleansing" and eugenics. He had no sense of perspective.
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Veritas]
#7924894 - 01/24/08 04:03 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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He did like to play with people though. He was a fungi.
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Veritas]
#7924901 - 01/24/08 04:04 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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eugenics.
I didn't know he was black?
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Veritas

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More like mold.
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Lmao.
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: Veritas]
#7924942 - 01/24/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Veritas said: Mmmmmm...buttered popcorn with curry powder.
In college we ate popcorn with ghee and Brewer's yeast.
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Re: Red Pandas [Re: eve69]
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I eat popcorn with glee! (in the future use spell check please)
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I came up with this in a private message to someone else, but this part stands alone, so I thought I would contribute it here as well, since this is what we were discussing.
The concern about the natural habitat is one of the most important ones to have at this time on this planet. I think this is how the discussion naturally lead into discussion of hunting, as well as farming, which is a word that probably draws with it a lot of negative preconceptions, considering what the word has traditionally represented (an iguana farm preserves the natural habitat and creates wealth for people in an environment that has suffered greatly at the hands of Western civilization).
I do see a natural trend towards an increasing transparency of humanity's footprint on this planet. I don't think our population is capable of sustaining much more human life; it seems that we are pretty much at our capacity (I believe Silversoul has referred to some studies on this). The cost of oil in the last several years, fueled mostly by the exponential development in countries like China, India, and Russia, as well as the added consumption by Americans for the Iraqi War, and coupled with a natural economic downturn in The United States will help influence more innovative technology, especially in energy. The American dollar will be much more worthless than other currency, and the cost of importation will be increasingly higher as the demand for oil in Asia continues to increase. America lost the strategic positioning for the Middle East's oil by simple fact that they overextended themselves in order to take it, reached beyond their means, possibly due to the fact that it is just so geographically far away.
I was reading a great article about how the free market is finding more potential for profit in alternative energy, and so the incentive will continue to build for research and development of new technology. I think one of the greatest things you will see from this is a new era of solar energy. I saw pictures of a huge arrangement of mirrors in the desert out West that focuses the Sun's energy into one concentrated beam, making the yields much greater, efficent, thus cost-efficent. Why shouldn't we create a complex of effective solar energy collectors in the desert? There isn't much that lives out there, and the small things that do probably wouldn't be impeded by it too much, and it is the most brilliant way to seek to obtain energy - go directly to the source.
A point I had been getting at is that there is a limit on the amount of energy that is available to human populations because there is a limit of the amount of plant life that converts the energy and starts the food chain that brings the energy to humans. We will naturally approach a limit to our population, it seems we already have, and after that, there will be a movement back into letting natural habitat thrive, because these habitats collect and maintain much more energy. Iguanas are apparently just as tasty burgers as cows, from what I understand, and they are healthier. It is much more effective to obtain energy from a lot of iguanas than a cow, and using iguanas preserves and sustains natural habitat. You will also see the Great Plains start to appear again as well, as natural growing switchgrass and other natural plant mass is alllowed to grow for a far more efficent source of bio-energy. I'd expect to see hemp fields proliferated as well.
I recognize the bias that we all place in the animals that we seek to represent and associate ourselves with. It seems to be a natural manifestation in evolution. Case in point, while a lot more natural habitat would thrive with these trends, but I think you would still see a preference for not maintaining predators that are capable of physically out-matching us, posing an immediate threat to our life. Instead of wolves hunting deer, we have humans subsidizing the wolf pups into dogs (a dog shares the same psychology as a wolf pup, signifing that they never grow up) and hunting the wolf and the deer for themself. We don't like predators, and I think we'll continue to ensure we are the top of the food chain. Not only that, but it seems that a lot of predators have an appeal to the same sense that humans also hold for animals such as red pandas, beautiful tigers, prestigious lions, or striking black panthers (had a dream just hours ago of a black panther that would be sitting right by the door of my house, and I would always have to go back inside before it killed me, I think one point I was speculating on how it would feel to get jumped and to just feel a foot get crunched off... nevertheless, I believe I called the DNR to come take care of it ). Humans have the bias of being human.
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I agree. I want to save a very loving and affectionate and endangered animal myself. I don't understand why others don't feel this way. Anyway if you want one of the litter, contact me in PM.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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