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Re: Living Cell Differentiation: Magic? [Re: Bard]
    #7929076 - 01/25/08 09:43 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

'I don't belive. I fear.'


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Re: Living Cell Differentiation: Magic? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7929791 - 01/25/08 01:18 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Diploid said:
In fact, let's suppose that the process is so well understood that the first human embryo is manufactured from first principles using nothing but individual atoms.

We're even closer than I thought. This was just published today:

Scientists Build First Man-Made Genome; Synthetic Life Comes Next

Scientists have built the first synthetic genome by stringing together 147 pages of letters representing the building blocks of DNA.

The researchers used yeast to stitch together four long strands of DNA into the genome of a bacterium called Mycoplasma genitalium. They said it's more than an order of magnitude longer than any previous synthetic DNA creation. Leading synthetic biologists said with the new work, published Thursday in the journal Science, the first synthetic life could be just months away -- if it hasn't been created already.

"We consider this the second in our three-step process to create the first synthetic organism," said J. Craig Venter, president of the J. Craig Venter Institute where scientists performed the study, on Thursday during a teleconference. "What remains now that we have this complete synthetic chromosome %u2026 is to boot this up in a cell."

...Scientists said they expect the announcement of man-made life this year.


Chemistry indeed! The rest of the article is here:

wired.com




bacterial life is not eukaryotic and differentiation is not involved at all
but he is clever to trick yeasts this way - little sugar deamons that they are.
but boy did they ever go off half cocked with this news. It's a big stretch of something not that significant.

it is as if when I buy a ticket to the lottery, wired should report that I practically won, and everyone at the shroomery would come asking me to loan money to them?

talk about mysticism, you need to demystify these claims en route to re-publishing or people will begin to think you are starting a new religion.

by the way
I am still waiting for that flying car the pundits in 1957 promissed I would have by 1980.
I could really use it.


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Re: Living Cell Differentiation: Magic? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7929964 - 01/25/08 01:55 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

It was reported in the journal Science. Wired (and others) just ran with it. And this is only one step (though a significant one) on the way to the end result. Denying the approaching end result (fully synthetic life) won't stop it any more than denial stopped progress in the past.

At least it IS amusing to see mystics heads freaking out and denying even as science heads make progress right over their dogma that life is special. Gallileo knew this. His foes thought the Earth was special too and at the center of the universe; everything revolving around us.

So arrogant and self-important, we silly humans. It makes me laugh. :monkeydance:

Fortunately, the inquisition is gone now. But history still somehow manages to repeat itself...


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Re: Living Cell Differentiation: Magic? [Re: Diploid]
    #7929991 - 01/25/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)
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I purchased the article. I thought it important enough to own. The .pdf is attached if anyone's interested in hearing from the horse's mouth. :grin:


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