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Cakes dead?
    #7904294 - 01/20/08 12:52 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

So I have 6 pint cakes with amazonian cubensis.

At first they started out growing some mushrooms, but like 80% of them were aborts. Except one cake did well and produced some good sized ones. But all in all across the aborts and big ones I only got like a little over an 1/8th. So they hardly flushed at all. This went on for like two months.

So I decided it had to do with moisture levels and oxygen levels. So I decided to dunk the cakes, which I did, left them overnight in water. When I dunked them I also gently ran my hand over the sides of them to brush off all the tiny little aborts.

I put them back in the chamber and literally its been like 2-3 weeks and I still haven't seen any signs of pinning again. The outside of the cakes also aren't as white anymore.

Today I decided to cut off a layer on the top of the cake to 'expose some whiter mycellium' underneath as I read somewhere say to do. So I just cut off the top, but found, I don't really have any mycellium underneath. Just little bits here and there.

I really don't know whats wrong at all. I'm thinking that Im going to stop watering them and stop showing light on them in hopes the mycellium will grow stronger underneath. But what else could be done?


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: rygoody]
    #7904374 - 01/20/08 01:24 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

if there was no myc inside then you birthed the cake to early. let it colonize at least a week longer next time


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #7904391 - 01/20/08 01:29 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Start over again, from the beginning, and don't birth your cake until about a week after the entire outside is colonized.

Reread everything about initiating pinning and see how you can improve your flushes.


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: Crasher]
    #7904503 - 01/20/08 02:17 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

is there no salvaging it? Cause I'd have to order another syringe.


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: rygoody]
    #7904520 - 01/20/08 02:24 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

try a grain 2 grain transfer


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: greystealth]
    #7904524 - 01/20/08 02:27 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

what is that?


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: rygoody]
    #7904591 - 01/20/08 02:53 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Use the search feature for more information.

Basically, in a very sterile environment, transfer a colonized chunk of mycelium into substrate jars, and the mycelium should begin colonizing the new jar. I think it stalls for a few days due to shock.

Make sure you xfer via sterilized utensils.

It'd be a lot easier to just order another syringe


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: greystealth]
    #7904662 - 01/20/08 03:24 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

everyone wants to save jars :rolleyes: .. just clean and sterilize them and start over, following whatever tek you learned from.. its not hard to start again, and if done correctly, will give you what you are looking for...

maybe try a different tek..

I ALWAYS do a transfer.. I only use a syringe if I need to.. I have been using the same strain for months, and its great... I have 17 jars 100% colonized, so I noc up 16 jars, using the 17th jar as spawn... never lost strength in flushes or potency... again, it depends on strain.. i isolated this strain on agar before I put it in grain...

soooo.. just be clean, sterile, and clean... no fans running, no windows open, etc...


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Re: Cakes dead? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7904669 - 01/20/08 03:31 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

if you follow the pf tek at the bottom of my signature, it will show you how to do a grain to grain transfer in pf tek style jars... if you noc from syringe, then do everything I did except the grain to grain transfer... prep the jars like that, then inject.. it doesnt take much... just a lil squirt... remember, its not pot.. spores are alot smaller than seeds.. lol.. and then you have to leave them in the dark.. this is sooo important, and most new cats always want to look at the jars.. more light=slower growth=more chance of contams..

inject them, and leave them in the dark for a week WITHOUT LOOKING... then just check every 2-3 days... you will see growth, and you will rejoice..


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