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Re: the infinite space [Re: GI_Luvmoney]
    #10631199 - 07/06/09 04:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Everything is abstract. Even the physical is abstract. Everything is what your consciousness makes it out to be. How are you able to think of a planet of Will Smiths in the first place? I do believe it's there, it's just that its your creation beyond the physical realm and beyond anyone's physical perception.


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Re: the infinite space [Re: auxiliary]
    #10631239 - 07/06/09 04:45 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Here's an interesting article about pre-Einstein relativity, ie. the aether theory (more classical than Einstein's aether theory).  In Larmor's and Lorentz's aether theories, mass, length and time transformations are a function of the velocity relative to the aether and not the observer as in Einstein's theory (special relativity).  Gravity may be an aether density gradient and not curved space.  Maybe space is infinite and the event horizon around our universe is simply an aether density gradient and not space curving back on itself.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/24/2063601/physics/McCormmach-Lorentz-1970.PDF


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Re: the infinite space [Re: GI_Luvmoney]
    #10634007 - 07/07/09 02:20 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)



The universe is a fractal.


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Re: the infinite space [Re: cubicle]
    #10879424 - 08/17/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i read a book by michael chriton about time travel and it was pretty cool cause it talked about how at any given time there are an infinite amount of different realities that are happening at once. the people in the book found a way to travel to the seperate realities, and essentially thats how they time travelled. but just think about the word infinite. infinite means that every single thing that has happened or will happen in your life is a seperate reality. this applys to every single human being on the planet. you couldnt even begin to think of all of the possible realities that could be happening. its a crazy thing to think about. talk about mindfuck.


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Re: the infinite space [Re: jw2234]
    #10880959 - 08/18/09 04:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I don't get why this is generating so much debate considering where it is being discussed.  In my experiences, and these align with those of my friends, tripping opens up one's perception to seeing the potential for an infinite number of outcomes to every single moment, so much that you realize that your "moment" in time is simply one of an infinite number of possible and actual moments/universes/realities/dimensions/etc.  So this in itself suggests to me that the spatial constraints of our universes are in essence irrelevant because in order to "travel" any measurable or productive distance in space, an object/person would need find away "around" the barrier of the speed of light. 

Basically, I think that before thinking of space- a spatial environment- as an infinite, we should first think of reality, which has the potential for an unlimited number of outcomes from every instance in existence, as infinite.


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Re: the infinite space [Re: undergrounder]
    #10881248 - 08/18/09 07:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Ell Ess Bree said:
What if it's very possible for things to travel faster than light?  What if it's a very natural and innate ability for even us as humans to do this, we just haven't discovered how yet?

No one "created" fire.  Someone figured out how to use what they ALREADY had in a way they previously had not.

We've already got everything we need to do anything we want.




E = mc2 says that the Energy (E) required to propel a mass (m) at the speed of light (c) would itself need to be infinite. So its impossible.

Robert Greene's book and movie "The Elegant Universe" and Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" are both must haves if you're interested in these things.




No it doesn't, it states that if you multiply the mass of something by the speed of light squared, you get the energy content of that mass.

Space can expand faster than the speed of light because it is massless. That which has mass however cannot move at the speed of light.


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: the infinite space [Re: crkhd]
    #10881962 - 08/18/09 11:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This universe is composed of:

70% dark energy, 25% dark matter and 5% of normal matter. Therefore meaning, we can only see 5% of our own universe. Although this is a theory, or a theoretical model, it makes you think. If we can only see 5% of our OWN universe, then that makes the theory of multi-verses, multiple dimensions, different overtones on each dimension, parallel-universes existing simultaneously, etc. all the more plausible.


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Re: the infinite space [Re: Chronic7]
    #10882113 - 08/18/09 11:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I dont hink the idea of looping back is ridiculous, but i think we will ever be able to go fats enough to find the edge even if there is one.

i think about this stuff alot but try and comeup with my own thoughts onit as alot of the latest theories are really stabs in the dark (no pun intended)

im very interested in gravity and dark energy/matter and suns births and deaths as its these that create life in the first place, i admire them for theyre beuty and try not to question whats behind them because as far as we know all that exists is stars, planets, galaxys and forces, the rest is just speculation.



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Chronic777 said:
I dont hink the idea of looping back is ridiculous, but i think we will ever be able to go fats enough to find the edge even if there is one.

i think about this stuff alot but try and comeup with my own thoughts onit as alot of the latest theories are really stabs in the dark (no pun intended)

im very interested in gravity and dark energy/matter and suns births and deaths as its these that create life in the first place, i admire them for theyre beuty and try not to question whats behind them because as far as we know all that exists is stars, planets, galaxys and forces, the rest is just speculation.




WOW, i so happy that since i made this post i actually found the Infinite

Thats one fast awakening!

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