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Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners'
    #7902378 - 01/19/08 04:29 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

and the minister apologized for it, and has ordered re-written!

I'm not really suprised...

Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier has issued a statement in an effort to pacify allies angry over a training manual for Canadian diplomats

Torture watchlist 'wrongly' names Canadian allies: Bernier
Last Updated: Saturday, January 19, 2008 | 12:38 PM ET
CBC News
Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier has issued a statement in an effort to pacify allies angry over a training manual for Canadian diplomats that lists the U.S. and Israel as countries where prisoners risk torture and abuse.

Bernier said the manual "contains a list that wrongly includes some of our closest allies."

Foreign Minister Maxime Bernier, right, who met with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert last week, has been forced to clarify why a Canadian diplomatic document listed Israel and the U.S. as sites of possible torture.
(Amos Ben Gershom/Associated Press)
"I regret the embarrassment caused by the public disclosure of the manual used in the department's torture awareness training," he said in a statement released Saturday.

"The manual is neither a policy document nor a statement of policy," he said. "As such, it does not convey the government's views or positions."

Bernier said he has directed the manual to be reviewed and rewritten, but he did not provide details.

The torture awareness training manual was inadvertently released on Friday to lawyers working on a lawsuit involving allegations that detainees were abused in Afghanistan.

The document singles out the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay as a site of possible abuse. It also names Israel, Afghanistan, China, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Syria as places where inmates could face torture.

U.S. ambassador to Canada David Wilkins told the Associated Press that it's "absurd" and "offensive" to place the United States on the same list along with countries like Iran and China.

Michael Mendel, a spokesman for the Israeli embassy in Ottawa, said Israel's Supreme Court "is on record as expressly prohibiting any type of torture."


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: carbonhoots]
    #7903082 - 01/19/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

That is an outrageous Lie. The United States does not torture.

But we do ship people out to other countries such as Egypt and Syria where they are tortured by others.

We do not torture. No sir.

Not a bit.

Nope.


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: zorbman]
    #7904676 - 01/20/08 03:36 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

> Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners'

I wish I could be upset that is isn't true, rather than upset that it is true.


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: Seuss]
    #7904808 - 01/20/08 06:41 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

You lost the moral high ground with that kind of stuff. Its a hard sell to have the world accept your moral leadership if your high horse tramples human rights underfoot.


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: carbonhoots]
    #7904849 - 01/20/08 07:14 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

i'd be surprised if a single day has passed in the last 100 years that an act of torture was not committed in the name of america. imo, it is naive to think that morals and ethics have ever existed behind closed doors.


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: carbonhoots]
    #7904950 - 01/20/08 08:29 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Can't say as I'm surprised. The 2 biggest war-mongering countries on earth listed as agents of torture. Does anyone NOT already know this?


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: carbonhoots]
    #7905223 - 01/20/08 10:19 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

why are they apologizing for documenting truths.


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: afoaf]
    #7905768 - 01/20/08 01:17 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

So no1 else tortures people?


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Re: Training manual lists USA, Isreal as 'countries that may torture prisoners' [Re: afoaf]
    #7906030 - 01/20/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

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why are they apologizing for documenting truths




Because the ADL, AIPAC and zappa will come after them for anti-semitism.


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