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When is it the right age to tell your child...
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That the milk they're enjoying with their breakfast was massaged from a cow's tits?
When is it the right age to tell them that the meat on their sandwich is the murdered calf the milk was for?
When should you tell that the egg of their breakfast was produced by a feathered concentration camp inmate?
When to tell them that the mangled bodies of these tortured chickens, and the organ meat of her own calf, end up in the feed pellets fed to the cow?
I'm tripping and I'm at a loss. At which age is it right to tell your child that we fucked up?
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Black_Flag]
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Black_Flag]
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i feel it could well be about the time they first seem to understand and appreciate the gravity of the concept of death. when they can know what it means.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7900605 - 01/19/08 06:33 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: At which age is it right to tell your child that we fucked up?
And why exactly does that count as 'fucking up'?
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Thin White Duke]
#7900607 - 01/19/08 06:39 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Very few feed companies use cow by-product anymore. That's part of how mad cow disease got going.
Just take them to a farm. It's just a part of life there. Not a fun part, but a necessary part.
Don't put chickens on a pedestal man. They are kind of nasty and cannibalistic.
That's some nasty shit to think about while tripping. Go turn on some beautiful music and change the scene.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: mushbaby]
#7900627 - 01/19/08 07:04 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Very few feed companies use cow by-product anymore. That's part of how mad cow disease got going.
True, but said feed pellets still contain "animal protein" from other sources. Cows are meant to graze and eat grass in a pasture man.
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Don't put chickens on a pedestal man. They are kind of nasty and cannibalistic.
Perhaps, but would they be as nasty if given enough room to steer clear of another? Either way, there's no excuse to put them in a battery.
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That's some nasty shit to think about while tripping. Go turn on some beautiful music and change the scene.
The confrontation with the dark side was deliberately sought, not avoided. I don't think that "think happy thoughts" is a viable strategy. It's better to let the mushroom unfold as it does, and accept it as it comes. Its fighting the imagery and fighting the concepts that causes bad trips, not the imagery and concepts themselves.
When you trip you are on a quest of Acceptance. Accepting yourself, your trip, your life and your world in all of its guises. Including the unhappy stuff, especially the unhappy stuff in fact. At the moment I'm seriously considering adopting non-strict vegetarianism as a personal health and ethics choice. The cow & chicken sequence was bound to come up, and now it did.
In pre-loading for this trip I found the following video-clip very useful. Not the thing you'd like to watch when you want to have a happy-happy trip but definitely recommended to watch during the come-up like I did if you want to have a profound trip.
Pearl Jam - Do The Evolution
Essentially its the viewpoint of life as an ocean of suffering, known from for instance Hinduism and Buddhism.
I'm coming down now and I had a VERY GOOD trip. It was profound, personally significant, there was euphoria AND hard times, closed eye visuals, dissolving in the Now and being all over the place
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
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I agrea with cubie. Let it go as long as it can. Any one with half a brain is ganna fined out soon enuff anywho....
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7900642 - 01/19/08 07:16 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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That was pretty awesome WS!
My personal choice is not to seek the unpleasantnesses in life. They thrust themselves upon me often enough. But to each his own.
It's always nice to come back with new inner sight.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: mushbaby]
#7900663 - 01/19/08 07:33 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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me, i just wouldn't give them food that involved enslavement or murder.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7900664 - 01/19/08 07:34 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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It's never a good time to break bad news.
Turn on some tunes bro, no need to torture yourself this beautiful Saturday.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: mushbaby]
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My personal choice is not to seek the unpleasantnesses in life. They thrust themselves upon me often enough. But to each his own.
This may sound weird, but if you in a trip learn to better deal with the dark side of life, you will be better able to deal with life's ugliness when it happens.
When you trip you can unblock yourself and become a stronger person. It's all in what the Trip chooses to address and how you deal with it.
When tripping I'm willing to suffer, because in my experience with tripping it's the harder you work for it, the greater the reward.
Like that. And there's 15 years of shrooming experience in that insight!
If you trip, in my view, you got to at least be willing to suffer a bad trip if it all goes south. If you can't afford to perhaps have to make that sacrifice, then it isn't the right day to trip for you.
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Turn on some tunes bro, no need to torture yourself this beautiful Saturday. 
There was a rough spot or two but all in all I'm a very happy camper. There was great euphoria before and after dealing with it.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7900677 - 01/19/08 07:44 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Well now I agree to a point.
I lived for a few years with an abusive man. I knew I shouldn't stay but just couldn't leave. My last trip on blotter I was still with him. A good portion of the trip was listening to my mother and grandmothers voices (both deceased) telling me I had to go.
Wasn't an easy trip, but was a good one. But I didn't go looking for it. And I left within the next couple of months.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Black_Flag]
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Black_Flag said: I say 1 day old. They're too fucking young to know what you're even saying, so you might as well say it early.
Better than having pussy Vegan kids.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7900897 - 01/19/08 09:37 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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At which age is it right to tell your child that we fucked up?
Tell them their job is to fix it. And whenever they ask.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7900920 - 01/19/08 09:48 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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at least till after they're done breast feeding,
b/c you might freak them out and they'll never be weaned.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: MrBump]
#7900982 - 01/19/08 10:10 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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'eh - tell 'em when they ask.
its not a big deal (to me, personally). animals have been used to provide nutrition for humans since the beginning of time. it just so happens there are a few billion more people on the planet now, and more efficient means of raising and slaughtering food sources have been developed.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: memes]
#7901058 - 01/19/08 10:36 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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I would start teaching them about wise food choices now. If you are so concerned about their consumption and where it comes from make wise decisions for them and explain why. I only buy organic meats and dairy. It may be more expensive but, I know I feel better about what I am eating. A majority of the food I eat is vegetarian just because I limit the amount of meat I consume mainly because I don't always have a stomach for it. Rather than sharing all of the darkness tell them the advantages to making good food choices and take them to farms so they can see what it is like. They don't have to see ugliness. There is a lot of beauty in agriculture if it is done correctly. I had milk straight from the cow when I was small and I thought it was the best. I even got to help milk the cow. Very good experience for children. I also learned how to churn butter and it was a lot of fun. Those experiences as a child helped me to think about where my food came from as an adult.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: FunGuyFan]
#7901207 - 01/19/08 11:22 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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I fail to see how the examples you provided means we fucked up. We used what resources we had to make life more comfortable for us. Sure, there are things that are fucked up in the world but I didn't see any listed.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: FunGuyFan]
#7901209 - 01/19/08 11:23 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Wait till they ask
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7901217 - 01/19/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: At which age is it right to tell your child that we fucked up?
At which age it right for me to tell my child that in my personal opinion the human race has fucked up, which doesn't necessarily make it so?*
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7901228 - 01/19/08 11:25 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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as soon as he finishes his first steak
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7901298 - 01/19/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: That the milk they're enjoying with their breakfast was massaged from a cow's tits?
When is it the right age to tell them that the meat on their sandwich is the murdered calf the milk was for?
When should you tell that the egg of their breakfast was produced by a feathered concentration camp inmate?
When to tell them that the mangled bodies of these tortured chickens, and the organ meat of her own calf, end up in the feed pellets fed to the cow?
I'm tripping and I'm at a loss. At which age is it right to tell your child that we fucked up?
The same day that I say, "We're at the top of the food chain...let's enjoy it. Pound that steak, son."
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: serendipitythenot]
#7902035 - 01/19/08 02:36 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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i dunno i mean i guess i would tell them when they started asking... i just personally wouldn't wanna have one of those kids who would stare at kids eating lunch at school being like "do you know what they did to that?"
plus i mean kids eat so much crap outside of meat that i dunno.. it's almost like let the kid come to that decision for themselves... i'm 21 and am just not starting to wonder about the food i eat and have started eliminating things from my diet... only now have i really started to take it somewhat seriously... and realize how certain foods make me fell.. and how i should feel after a good meal. how old is your kid?
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: That the milk they're enjoying with their breakfast was massaged from a cow's tits?
When is it the right age to tell them that the meat on their sandwich is the murdered calf the milk was for?
When should you tell that the egg of their breakfast was produced by a feathered concentration camp inmate?
When to tell them that the mangled bodies of these tortured chickens, and the organ meat of her own calf, end up in the feed pellets fed to the cow?
Right after his/her very first baby seal clubbing. They will be cold and exhausted from swinging the club and they will appreciate the fact that the ease and low cost of food procurement is one of the great blessings of modern man.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: zappaisgod]
#7902294 - 01/19/08 04:01 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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no kidding. there used to be a vegan forum on a website that I used to go to and they had really obnoxious arrogant stupid assholes on there.
they all used to say how humans aren't biologically supposed to eat meat. yeah right, our closest relatives the chimpanzee eats meat.
many of them are also PETA supporters (Fuck PETA)
some people don't eat meat because they don't like the taste of it.
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yeah, she's funny and somewhat interesting. not a beauty queen, but not bad lookin. i'd feel quite honored to fuck janine garofalo. -tiny_rabid_birds
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
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We wouldnt have developed brains had we not slaughtered animals throughout history. its as much a part of us as the empathy you feel for these animals...
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7902352 - 01/19/08 04:22 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: That the milk they're enjoying with their breakfast was massaged from a cow's tits?
When is it the right age to tell them that the meat on their sandwich is the murdered calf the milk was for?
When should you tell that the egg of their breakfast was produced by a feathered concentration camp inmate?
When to tell them that the mangled bodies of these tortured chickens, and the organ meat of her own calf, end up in the feed pellets fed to the cow?
I'm tripping and I'm at a loss. At which age is it right to tell your child that we fucked up?
when they're old enough not to have constant nightmares hearing stories about torture. or raise them vegan/vegitarian.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: FunGuyFan]
#7902366 - 01/19/08 04:25 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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FunGuyFan said: I only buy organic meats and dairy.
the FDA organic program is a joke
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take them to farms so they can see what it is like. Very good experience for children.
now you have a viable idea, but it's not just for kids, adults need to know a bit more as well, through the years I've heard people talk about organic foods and factory farms, you might be shocked to learn that the vast majority of organic foods come from the very same conglomerates that they are protesting.
The only way to really know what you're eating is to see it grown, you can grow it yourself or just get to know your farmer. Look into community supported agriculture, keep your money local, where it's needed.
http://www.localharvest.org/csa/
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#7902541 - 01/19/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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I agree with you. I do like to support the local farmers market. I also believe that buying organic is a better choice and a step in the right direction.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: FunGuyFan]
#7902582 - 01/19/08 05:11 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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over the last few years I'd been debating on organic certification, I finally came to the decision not to do so, my problem is that with crops you're allowed many chemicals during the growth, theres allowances for genetically modified plants/seed, and each day companies like Monsanto, Con-Agra and HJ Heinz are petitioning the FDA for new additions to the approved chemical list for organic ag use dont trust in things labeled organic, you still dont know what you're getting
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: yaleforks]
#7902751 - 01/19/08 06:03 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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they will find out on their own soon enough just let them enjoy life for as long as possible babe
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
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You do realise that when we kill all the other animals and plants on the planet, God is like "Humans win, well done guys."
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#7902949 - 01/19/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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I understand and it is a shame we have to be so careful about our food. My husband and I also looked into getting an organic certification and it is a bit of a racket. I have seen some documentaries about companies like Monsanto and that too is disturbing.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: sam420]
#7903063 - 01/19/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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sam420 said: You do realise that when we kill all the other animals and plants on the planet, God is like "Humans win, well done guys."
It's us or them, man!
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#7903097 - 01/19/08 07:25 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Cannabischarlie said: they all used to say how humans aren't biologically supposed to eat meat

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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Muppet]
#7903801 - 01/19/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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they're actually for shredding wheats...
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
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double checks wikipedia
damnit...there *might* actually be some truth to that one too
damn you god for giving us 'flesh tearing' teeth that supposed to be used only for 'tearing' grain *shakes fist*
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
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our teeth are perfectly designed for OMNIVOROUS diet. which means we are survivalist eaters. we CAN eat almost anything. we CAN digest most things, at least parts of most things. does this mean we should? no. does it mean you can eat anything you want? yes.
it also means that diet is YOUR decision. yes there are healthier things to eat, eat whatever you want, it all depends on just how healthy you want to be. some are willing to sacrifice and become vegans, some vegetarians, some mainly meat eaters. whatever. eat whatever the fuck you want and let others eat what they want. we were designed to eat anything organic.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Muppet]
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but fuckit though
in reference to the late great Dennis Leary:
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Muppet]
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lol i was actually just kidding around. good point though lefty, that is until we started caging up wild animals and making their lives living hell, and feeding them to us. sad cows taste like death. i'm all for eating wild meat. and what about antibiotics and shit like that? wild animals dont need that shit.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#7903856 - 01/19/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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all I'm saying is I like the taste of fucken flesh
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#7903858 - 01/19/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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exactly. i eat meat, but i try to eat meat that i am under the assumption is free range. i rarely eat beef and i never eat pork, and when i do eat meat, i try to in no way support giant commercial meat companies, as they all pretty much torture their animals.
i cant wait until i get a decent piece of property and i can grow my own food and raise my own livestock.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Muppet]
#7903859 - 01/19/08 10:31 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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well if i had land i'd raise my own animals. and yes i do agree flesh is tasty, though somewhat barbaric.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Muppet]
#7903866 - 01/19/08 10:32 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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though I agree - the taste of killing a wild animal of some sorts if FAR greater than slaughtering something that was just simply raised to be food
but that all just goes back to that whole 'murder tastes good' thing, now doesn't it
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#7903867 - 01/19/08 10:32 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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chickens are fucking stupid. they would probably be extinct if it werent for the fact that they taste so good.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Muppet]
#7903868 - 01/19/08 10:32 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Muppet said: all I'm saying is I like the taste of fucken flesh
i do too mup. but you have to know that meat needs to be eaten in moderation. 2-3 times a week MAX, the rest of your diet should consist of greens, vegetables, fruits, grains and others such as mushrooms, even insects if you can stomach it
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: wrestler_az]
#7903871 - 01/19/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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wrestler_az said: chickens are fucking stupid. they would probably be extinct if it werent for the fact that they taste so good.
nah. wild chickens have lived around the world for millions of years no problem.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#7903875 - 01/19/08 10:34 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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This is some good chili.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7903885 - 01/19/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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leftysurprise said:
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wrestler_az said: chickens are fucking stupid. they would probably be extinct if it werent for the fact that they taste so good.
nah. wild chickens have lived around the world for millions of years no problem.
heh, and they're not white either.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: wrestler_az]
#7903890 - 01/19/08 10:38 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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wrestler_az said: chickens are fucking stupid. they would probably be extinct if it werent for the fact that they taste so good.
Like the Dodo?
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#7903893 - 01/19/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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KrishnaDreamer said:
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wrestler_az said: chickens are fucking stupid. they would probably be extinct if it werent for the fact that they taste so good.
nah. wild chickens have lived around the world for millions of years no problem.
heh, and they're not white either.
lol nope.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#7903901 - 01/19/08 10:44 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said:
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wrestler_az said: chickens are fucking stupid. they would probably be extinct if it werent for the fact that they taste so good.
Like the Dodo?
funny thing is, they didnt taste good, yet they still went extinct because of us.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7904981 - 01/20/08 08:49 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7905013 - 01/20/08 09:01 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Animals are resources which are to be consumed by humans in the most efficient way possible.
The only time we as humans need to take a second look at the way we process these animals is in the cases where health risks have developed.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7905166 - 01/20/08 09:59 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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the answer to that and any other "when is the right age to tell your child"-question is pretty simple:
when they first ask... you obviously shouldn't be too graphic... try to pick the right words and that's it...
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#7907321 - 01/20/08 08:59 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Asante]
#7907472 - 01/20/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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So basically the original question in this thread is "What is the right age to fill my childs head with BS propaganda that I don't buy in to"?
Humans are omnivores. Everyone is free to choose whatever diet they prefer, I could care less what the fuck you eat. I consume and enjoy the flesh of many different animals on a regular basis. I would have no problem raising and slaughtering them myself if I lived on a farm, but since I'm in the burbs I rely on others to do it for me.
Anyway, why is it that crazy vegitarians/vegans feel the need to push thier views on the rest of the world? I don't give a fuck about thier diet, why do they insist so much on slamming mine? They're almost as bad as wacky fundamentalist Christians...sometimes worse!
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: ToTheSummit]
#7907521 - 01/20/08 09:34 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Who cares? just feed your kid beef and chicken while they grow, they will figure it out on thier own anyway, I dont think my parents told me where certain foods came from unless I asked first. I still love a steak anytime...but chicken kind of makes me sick now thinking how they are all cooped up in cages while they eat where they shit, plus they are many, many of them in one room..it makes me want to puke if you ask me.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Skunk420]
#7907597 - 01/20/08 09:47 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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I'll just go buy a chicken and kill it in front of my son when he's seven. He can eat it or not. I guess some people haven't had to kill dinner before, and that surprises me. The more removed you are from your food source, the harder it is for you to demonstrate the truth to your child.
So raise some livestock yourself. Kill it,cook it, and eat it.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Crasher]
#7907775 - 01/20/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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i am pretty sure they don't feed beef to cows.
They can sell like every part of the cow for meat.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Skunk420]
#7907782 - 01/20/08 10:42 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah you're the guy who should be talking about who does what with animals. God. Anyways I think it's all natural, well not really it is kind of fucked up, but it all comes out full circle, cow would eat us if they were smarter.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: Nemo_Hoes]
#7907866 - 01/20/08 11:07 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Cows are fuking stupid animals, they deserve to be eaten.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: ToTheSummit]
#7908277 - 01/21/08 02:25 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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ToTheSummit said: So basically the original question in this thread is "What is the right age to fill my childs head with BS propaganda that I don't buy in to"?
Humans are omnivores. Everyone is free to choose whatever diet they prefer, I could care less what the fuck you eat. I consume and enjoy the flesh of many different animals on a regular basis. I would have no problem raising and slaughtering them myself if I lived on a farm, but since I'm in the burbs I rely on others to do it for me.
Anyway, why is it that crazy vegitarians/vegans feel the need to push thier views on the rest of the world? I don't give a fuck about thier diet, why do they insist so much on slamming mine? They're almost as bad as wacky fundamentalist Christians...sometimes worse!
not that i am an angry vegan or anything, just playing devils advocate here. but why do meat eaters feel the same urge to push their views on us. beef industry much? wheres the beef? beef, its whats for dinner? every where you go, when asked what you eat, if the answer is anything that doesn include meat, youre usually looked at funny unless youre with like company.
at least in my experiences. i do eat meat, just not alot of it. and i still catch crap from people.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: serendipitythenot]
#7908656 - 01/21/08 07:55 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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niki420 said: why are you posting a diagram of humans' teeth, yet supporting eating meat? -.-
compare this diagram to the teeth of a grazing animal. LOL
My horses' teeth are pretty freakin' similar... incisors, canines, and all. Their diet consists of grass(incase you didnt know ) ^^
I was always raised being told we got two different types of teeth for a reason - the ones in the back were for chewing up on grain, and the ones up front were for tearing through some damned meat
I never even knew that horses an shit had incisors and canines an crap too, until this thread came around
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: ToTheSummit]
#7908658 - 01/21/08 07:59 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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ToTheSummit said: So basically the original question in this thread is "What is the right age to fill my childs head with BS propaganda that I don't buy in to"?
Humans are omnivores. Everyone is free to choose whatever diet they prefer, I could care less what the fuck you eat. I consume and enjoy the flesh of many different animals on a regular basis. I would have no problem raising and slaughtering them myself if I lived on a farm, but since I'm in the burbs I rely on others to do it for me.
Anyway, why is it that crazy vegitarians/vegans feel the need to push thier views on the rest of the world? I don't give a fuck about thier diet, why do they insist so much on slamming mine? They're almost as bad as wacky fundamentalist Christians...sometimes worse!
you know...... its funny. since becoming veggie, then vegan, i here meat eaters and omnivores always saying how veggies and vegans are always preaching to them about how they're wrong and making them feel bad, etc. however, most of the vegans i know NEVER preach to anyone who doesnt ask about the subject. ever. my girl friend and i were talking about this very same shit last night. as soon as an omni finds out i eat a mostly vegan diet, they start flaming me, talking shit, telling me that animals are their for us to eat, pushing me their beliefs, etc. even on this thread people call vegans pussies it just sucks ya know? i dont go around preaching about shit unless people provoke me, and even then, im usually the one that remains calm and not resorting to name calling. but tis life
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: impgl]
#7908689 - 01/21/08 08:20 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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I think as soon as anyone says "All such and such do this or that" they are gonna get in trouble.
I don't think all vegans are preachy, but if you've ever been camping with them and you barbeque it is hard for them to restrain from saying "God that burning flesh smell is making me sick".
Kind of takes some of the enjoyment out of it for everyone else.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: mushbaby]
#7908719 - 01/21/08 08:35 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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i know what you mean, i work with this guy that doesnt do drugs or smoke cigs, and sure enough, he's always talking shit, and i mean SHIT when people do. he'll close a window and kinda yell at people. but i guess i've been fortunate to not hang out with vegans that are like that. i still think its the opposite though, i was just traveling with one of my best buds and he would get a little pissed cause it would take me a whole day to find something to eat but every time we ate, he would just say, no im not talking shit, and i understand where your coming from, but....." and their ya go. i just wanted to eat, ya know? but its cool, like i said, one of my best friends.
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Re: When is it the right age to tell your child... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7909957 - 01/21/08 02:46 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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leftysurprise said: our teeth are perfectly designed for OMNIVOROUS diet. which means we are survivalist eaters. we CAN eat almost anything. we CAN digest most things, at least parts of most things. does this mean we should? no. does it mean you can eat anything you want? yes.
it also means that diet is YOUR decision. yes there are healthier things to eat, eat whatever you want, it all depends on just how healthy you want to be. some are willing to sacrifice and become vegans, some vegetarians, some mainly meat eaters. whatever. eat whatever the fuck you want and let others eat what they want. we were designed to eat anything organic.
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