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monkeybus
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Do you believe in God?
#7898999 - 01/18/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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It's a simple yes/no.
Let's not argue about the specifics.
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doitagain
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: monkeybus]
#7899028 - 01/18/08 08:21 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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i believe in the divine, but i don't believe in any specific god. oh and i was raised a reform jew
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Gr33nday43



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Re: Do you believe in God? *DELETED* [Re: doitagain]
#7899032 - 01/18/08 08:23 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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usg543
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7899042 - 01/18/08 08:26 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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nothing is there, enjoy your imaginary friends.
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Madhatter4
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: usg543]
#7899066 - 01/18/08 08:31 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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God = d-lysergic acid diethylamide
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DarkMoon21
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Madhatter4]
#7899101 - 01/18/08 08:38 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Like alot of people, I believe in something, not necessarily a god/goddess/any number of the two. On my first LSD trip I met a god-like creature, some kind of creator or watcher or something of the like. I don't know, after reading a few books on the holographic universe theory and the string theory, I find it hard not to believe there's something out there.
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Ell Ess Bree
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: DarkMoon21]
#7899134 - 01/18/08 08:46 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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I believe that it was not a good idea to make this thread in the psychedelic experience.
For more than one reason.
Aaaaaaand god could mean anything to anyone. Soooo...
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Mad_Larkin

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Phonerothyme
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: DarkMoon21]
#7899202 - 01/18/08 09:01 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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All
Factors
Present the
Recursion and resonance,
The past inside the present;
The conscious mind, feedback loops in paradigms, factors
All components coalescing through time, all fragments all entwined--the jeweled net divine
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yageman
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: usg543]
#7899224 - 01/18/08 09:07 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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usg543 said: nothing is there, enjoy your imaginary friends.
You want someone to tell you that the christian god is the one and only god? That would be "ignorant" right? Nice response..............lol
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Some people dont even feel the need to think about it on their own terms. To assume nothing instead of something is inherently less complex and well, thats your own decision. All religions aside.
Most of you are probably thinking within the context of religions that are fed to the masses. Lots of supposedly independent and supposedly "smart" people often think of this in terms of, "is there an afterlife". Have you ever really thought about it though?
I derive god from science. Science is my god. "It" is not some imaginary friend that I pray to.
I extrapolate information from nature to find god. I find my own way.
Atheists are fine with me(they found their way) but people who call themselves Christian-agnostics etc do make me sort of laugh.
My approach to god is to find it by any means possible. Its not my goal in life to find some true god. I believe in finding truth, and god is the mathematician behind the veil at the very least.
God is what is. God is within everything. Existence is sacred to me. I see order. Even in chaos I see order. I dont believe in any one faith. I dont believe in any faith. I do believe in what they can have to offer a person. I do however believe in a (ONE) grand intelligence. An unmoved mover not exclusively connected to any one religion.
Saying there is no such thing as god, is kind of like saying muslims are closer to god than christians etc etc. Thats why I quoted who ever it is I quoted. If you want to say that its fine with me. People say that sort of crap thousands/millions of times every day.
Thats a ballsy statement. Most atheists have no fucking idea, and when they approach the subject, they often are just rude and dont know or accept their potential audience. Im not saying all atheists are this way.
Finding my god through science is my path. To see small parts of the unmoved mover. Maths are inherently all the EXACT same throughout the universe, no matter the approach. Just a metaphore.
Have fun finding even a reason to find a god that works the way you want. I have no bindings and wont read any of those books again. They do have alot to offer.
I have no single faith. I do believe in god aside from any common religion or any crap about an after life.
I truely do.
Life is just that good. Lucky you. A bundle of universe exploded and made your ass...........lol I even get the opportunity to observe consciousness, and I dont waist that opportunity. Thats how I started to believe in god through science. Im very lucky too. I didnt have to almost (from a scientific stance), start from scratch like I would have in a different "time". Even in that case, I would still have my philosophy, but just perhapse a less "evolved" version of the SAME DAMN THING.
I believe in god.
Im not asking anyone to believe or disbelieve. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I know what I know I'll sing what I said We come and we go That's a thing that I keep In the back of my head.
-paul simon.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (01/18/08 09:09 PM)
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danlennon3
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I do not belive a being created the world and watches over everyone.To me god is a metaphor for everything unknown.
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: danlennon3]
#7899245 - 01/18/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Nice to see you again, yageman.
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Phonerothyme
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To understand the all-changing-changeless is to be enlightened. Not to know that, but to act blindly, leads to disaster. The all-changing-changeless is all-embracing. To embrace all is to be selfless. To be selfless is to be all-pervading. To be all-pervading is to be transcendent.
- Lao-tzu
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usg543
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: yageman]
#7899275 - 01/18/08 09:19 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Phonerothyme
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: usg543]
#7899288 - 01/18/08 09:21 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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All nature is but art, unknown to thee; All chance, direction, which thou canst not see; All discord, harmony not understood; All partial evil, universal good; And spite of pride, unerring reason's spite, One truth is clear, Whatever is, is right.
- Alexander Pope
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yageman
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: usg543]
#7899384 - 01/18/08 09:41 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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usg543 said:

Good point. Sucker...............lol
Aim high my assholish friend.
Ahhhhh yes, aim high my friendly and astute atheist friend .........serenity and fullness is all yours buddy.
Well put.
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Edited by yageman (01/18/08 09:45 PM)
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monkeybus
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: danlennon3]
#7899445 - 01/18/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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danlennon3 said: I do not belive a being created the world and watches over everyone.To me god is a metaphor for everything unknown.
Not so much that "a being" created the world.
How about God is the universe.
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Phonerothyme
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: monkeybus]
#7899453 - 01/18/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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monkeybus said:
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danlennon3 said: I do not belive a being created the world and watches over everyone.To me god is a metaphor for everything unknown.
Not so much that "a being" created the world.
How about God is the universe.
That is, indeed, one reasonable metaphor for it.
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g00ru
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: yageman]
#7899454 - 01/18/08 09:59 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Sometimes it's possible to, in an attempt to define a theoretically possible god, over explain god to the point where you aren't talking about anything. I could say that god is the intangible love between two people, or some shit like that, but that's not what "god" really means, and the statement doesn't really mean anything.
You can define God however you want, but as far as the idea of a supernatural, all-powerful being, I'm quite confident one of those doesn't exist.
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yageman
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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: g00ru]
#7899500 - 01/18/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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You can only have small parts.
Not the meat and potatoes.
God told me.........lol
Im not talking about supernatural beings.
Im talking about the intelligence behind the reason for science, The reason for all things.
We are working toward something. It may have no end. We do have to follow the rules though when evolving.
I dont know guruu. Im not so sure you know enough about physics if you believe your last sentence to actually be true, that is, unless you dont see order that is beyond beyond.
Even a fucking algebra class or two could teach you something about the complexity of reality.
Dont try to tell me I was not saying ANYTHING.
Im not fucking writing a book here, so give me a break. Read between the lines if you are one of those people who even sort of gets what im saying.
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