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Free Speech at it's best!!
    #7898740 - 01/18/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Ezra Levant. He is a Canadian publisher who published the Danish Islamic cartoons and was dragged in front of a "human rights commission" kangaroo court in Alberta, Canada. The proceedings are on YouTube, and Levant's statements are simply breathtaking in their breadth, depth and clarity.

Look at these clips and if you want more go to his blogsite for more clips and articles.

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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7898934 - 01/18/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

referring to the Quran as "a book of hate."
Now, he is being accused of promoting "hate" by making this observation

But, the question remains, who's right?

You be the judge.

The following are direct quotes from the Quran and the Hadith:

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them …"

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX:113: "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

These quotations are not out of context. They are representative of dozens and dozens of other messages in the Islamic "holy" texts.

know there are many peaceful Muslims who view them allegorically rather than literally. Yet, is it outside the bounds of civil public discourse to challenge such statements?

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore how the Quran instructs its followers.


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7898987 - 01/18/08 08:12 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Wow! That guy ripped the commission three new assholes.

Said to the arbiter: "I publish those cartoons for the intention and purpose of exercising our inalienable right as free-born Albertans to publish whatever the hell we want no matter what the hell you think"

I love it! Where do I send my donation?


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: Diploid]
    #7899075 - 01/18/08 08:33 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Yeh, I thought he did an exceptionally great job of telling these commission people where to go.

Now all we have to do is get rid of these commissions across the country.

It will be really interesting to see what the outcome is. My guess is that because he is a lawyer, and was very well connected to the inner circle of the federal conservative/reform parties, he will walk. This case could bring some sanity back to the free speech concept.


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7899221 - 01/18/08 09:06 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

In the new issue of Maclean's magazine, Mark Steyn writes a virtuoso analysis of Canada's "human rights" commissions. Here are a few passages from it:

In the three decades of the Canadian "Human Rights" Tribunal's existence, not a single "defendant" has been "acquitted."

In its entire history, over half of all cases have been brought by a sole "complainant," one Richard Warman. Indeed, Mr. Warman has been a plaintiff on every single Section XIII case before the federal "human rights" star chamber since 2002 — and he's won every one. That would suggest that no man in any free society anywhere on the planet has been so comprehensively deprived of his human rights. Well, no. Mr. Warman doesn't have to demonstrate that he's been deprived of his human rights, only that it's "likely" (i.e. "highly un-") that someone somewhere will be deprived of some right sometime. Who is Richard Warman? What's his story? Well, he's a former employee of the Canadian Human Rights Commission: an investigator.

The American website Pundita has a sharp analysis of Section XIII, comparing it to Philip K. Dick's sci-fi novel The Minority Report, set in a world in which citizens can be sentenced for "pre-crime" — for criminal acts which have not occurred but are "likely" to. Who needs futuristic novels when we're living it here and now in one of the oldest constitutional democracies on the planet? What kind of countries have tribunals with 100 per cent conviction rates that replace the presumption of innocence with the presumption of guilt and in which truth is not only no defence but compelling evidence of that guilt?


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You Canoodians better get on this shit before it's too late. Look what happened to us (US) while we were napping.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: Diploid]
    #7899282 - 01/18/08 09:20 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Thanks for that Diploid, good info.

Unfortunately most of us don't give a shit. We are too docile about granting authority, or relinquishing freedoms. There is no real opposition to the government from citizenry when it dreams up this shit. My hope (and suspicion) is that Ezra is looking for a conviction so that he can take a federal charter appeal to the supreme court to have these types of quasi-judiciary struck down. I wish him luck, and will support him.


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7899310 - 01/18/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I love the guys attitude, but he surly doesnt have the right of free speech in his country. Canada has always sided against free speech when confronted with political incorrectness. I just think its part of their culture. They certainly dont have an equivalent to our first amendment in the states.


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7900396 - 01/19/08 03:41 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

These are the rest of the vids from that interrogation.
















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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7900421 - 01/19/08 03:50 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Wow! Thanks for posting.


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: Seuss]
    #7900727 - 01/19/08 08:15 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)



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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7900882 - 01/19/08 09:29 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)



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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: Phred]
    #7900907 - 01/19/08 09:43 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

Phred said:
Already a thread about this --

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7872677/an/0/page/1






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Sorry Phred, I didn't see that when I posted this. Any way to attach this one to the other?


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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7901194 - 01/19/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Not that I know of. It's okay, though -- I figure if we have seven hundred and sixty three Ron Paul threads we can certainly have two Ezra Levant threads.



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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: Phred]
    #7901481 - 01/19/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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Not that I know of. It's okay, though -- I figure if we have seven hundred and sixty three Ron Paul threads we can certainly have two Ezra Levant threads.



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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: hummermania00]
    #7905149 - 01/20/08 09:55 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)



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Re: Free Speech at it's best!! [Re: Luddite]
    #7909861 - 01/21/08 02:21 PM (16 years, 11 days ago)



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