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    #7898423 - 01/18/08 05:42 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

So my problem resides in the area of my fruiting chamber for my 60/40 coco coir/ vermic cased rye grain....i think. either way, I CANT GET THEM TO FRUIT!!! I got a large 4 rack martha greenhouse unit from walmart and attached two impeller based humidifiers (one vicks and one cheep ugly old one from a thrift store) and it still wont form hyphal knots or primodium. i thought it wasnt humid enough (my digi hygrometer said 72% with those two humidifiers on all the time so i put an ultrasonic inside the vicks and the humidity is now reading 95%) what am i doing wrong? from the jar incubation process and casing colonization time to the fruiting process i have at least a 10-14 degree drop in temperature (from 84 to 70); the lights i have on it are the ones in my room, 2 four foot flourescents on the ceiling almost directly above the chamber, and my timer is set for a half hour on, half hour off (having it on full blast 24/7 dries out my casing layer). technically i think i've done everything right but obviously i'm missing something. any ideas??????? hippie chick recorded phenominal results with a setup like this.


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Re: NO idea what i'm doing wrong [Re: squirrelnutmofia]
    #7898446 - 01/18/08 05:48 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

you need a analog hygrometer... how much FAE are you giving them?


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Re: NO idea what i'm doing wrong [Re: squirrelnutmofia]
    #7898451 - 01/18/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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the lights i have on it are the ones in my room, 2 four foot flourescents on the ceiling almost directly above the chamber, and my timer is set for a half hour on, half hour off (having it on full blast 24/7 dries out my casing layer).




Set your timer for 12/12 and move the lights farther away if necessary so they don't cause heating. Cycling the light like that confuses the hell out of the mycelium, which has circadian rhythms, just like people.

Try to get 95%+ humidity and mist regularly to keep the coir moist. You might try laying wax paper over the tray to hold humidity high right where primordia form. Remove it a few times per day to fan.
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Re: NO idea what i'm doing wrong [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7900768 - 01/19/08 08:33 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

the half hour on half hour off timer i was referring to was on my Vick's impeller/humidifier fitted with an ultrasonic pet humidifier....guess i need to get a little better at describing things i have an avid frustration with! the lights however are on all day except when i turn them off when i go to bed since they are in my room as well. I'll try and get a lamp to put over the mushrooms that stays on 24 hours though.
i know I've been needing to get an analog hygrometer but living out in the sticks (i live in Colorado at about 9000 FT and am an hour and a half drive to a place that has even a walmart) its hard to find one. but your right, that would eliminate humidity as a problem and give me better readings. also, this altitude is a major humidity issue especially in the winter. i know normally an ultrasonic humidifier does more harm then good (it was when i lived in Ohio) but up here it seems essential.
as for fresh air exchange, the Vick's should push enough out the bottom of the door flap. i taped up all but a few inches on the corners to hold humidity in, but just as an experiment I'll open it up a little more.
thanks for all the advice!!! when i first started i had excellent results and had a few ounces a month, but somewhere along the line the seasons changed and so did the humidity....or I'm just doing something wrong. I'm going to try ryche hawks 50/50 casing layer to see if it holds up better and fruits more easily.


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Re: NO idea what i'm doing wrong [Re: squirrelnutmofia]
    #7900773 - 01/19/08 08:36 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

RANDOM THOUGHT - i have a huge 4 rack martha greenhouse...but just realized i only have 4 small 6x6 inch pans in it so far. (awaiting more equipment to start growing more cased trays) Once the shelves are full and I have misted the casing to near saturation, shouldnt that fix ANY humidity problems if i have a lot more moist cased trays in there??? or at the very least act as a buffer?


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Re: NO idea what i'm doing wrong [Re: squirrelnutmofia]
    #7900872 - 01/19/08 09:23 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

First, NEVER run your lights 24/7. 12/12 is proper for lights.

Fill the empty shelves with trays of moist perlite. Run a humidifier in the room as I suggested in your other thread.

Boycott walmart. Find a local nursery to deal with and protect what's left of our economy and jobs, without giving it all to communist china via china-mart.
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