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How to spot a drug user [Avon]
#7896045 - 01/18/08 04:16 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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http://postindependent.com/article/20080117/VALLEYNEWS/832366943
There are several ways to spot a drug user, and Avon Police Chief
Brian Kozak is teaching parents how to recognize those symptoms in their kids.
Kozak is a drug recognition expert and has performed more than 5,000 drug evaluations. He says there are simple tests that can be done when your son or daughter comes home after a party, and if you sharpen your observation skills, there are behaviors you can look for to see if they're high or drunk.
But before you try anything, Kozak suggests talking about drug and alcohol with your kids.
"You don't want to surprise them," Kozak said.
Instead, tell your kids that you know what to look for, that you know what the symptoms of drug use are, and you know how to do tests that expose drunkenness and marijuana use.
If you want, even demonstrate these tests. Let them know that you trust them to make the right decisions, but you know how to check if you ever suspect something.
"If they know what to expect, they may not be as offended," Kozak said.
The nystagmus test
If you're trying to figure out if someone is high or drunk, the eyes are the window to the soul, Kozak said
An easy test to do is to look for jerking and twitching eyes, a condition called Nystagmus.
If you need to test your child, start by holding up your finger vertically at eye level and ask him or her to follow your finger with their eyes as you sweep it back and forth.
Look carefully at the eyes. If the eyes are jerking and twitching as they look from left to right, that's a pretty good indication that they've been abusing depressants like alcohol or Valium, the drug PCP or things like glue or paint, which people sniff and breathe in to get high.
"Alcohol is the most commonly abused drug here in Eagle County," Kozak said.
Another commonly abused drug here is soma, a prescription drug that basically makes you feel drunk but without the hangover, Kozak said. If a kid is using soma, you could possibly detect it with the nystagmus test.
The pupil test
You can also tell a lot by looking at someone's pupils. Most people have pupils between 3 millimeters and 6.5 millimeters. Any larger, and that's a good sign they're on stimulants like cocaine or meth, which speed up your body and bring feelings of excitement and euphoria.
Large pupils can also be a sign someone is using drugs like LSD or peyote, which causes people to hallucinate and alters their senses.
It also is a sign they're using marijuana, which besides alcohol, is the most commonly abused drug in Eagle County, Kozak said.
If the pupils are much smaller than normal, that's a sign they're on hard narcotics like heroin, morphine or codeine, which are used as painkillers but can be extremely addictive.
Field sobriety test
As a street cop, one test Kozak liked to use is the Rhomberg test. In it, he asks someone to put their legs together, put their arms to their side, tilt their head back, close their eyes and use their internal clock to count 30 seconds.
Someone high on stimulants like meth or cocaine will somehow believe 30 seconds is up after one or two seconds. Someone who's drunk might take two minutes before they realize 30 seconds have passed.
Strange behavior
But you don't necessarily have to perform a test to spot drug or alcohol use. If you suspect your child is taking depressants like alcohol, Valium or soma, look for typical behavior you'd expect from someone who is drunk - slurred, thick speech, stumbling, loss of coordination, disorientation.
If you suspect a stimulant like cocaine, look for restlessness, talkativeness, grinding teeth, anxiety or a raw nose. Kozak said you can even look for the remnants of cocaine powder in their nose.
Look to see if your child is staring into space, with their attention fixed on inanimate objects. People on drugs like LSD hallucinate, and users often mix their senses up, "seeing sounds and hearing colors," Kozak said. He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
"Are they looking around, staring at things? Do they have a dazed appearance?" Kozak said.
Track marks
If someone is using narcotics like heroin or morphine, they might have droopy eyelids, slow reflexes and might be scratching their face a lot. They might also be hiding "track marks," or the sores showing where they've used needles. They're often covered up by long sleeves or pants.
For marijuana users, look for bloodshot eyes, tremors and disorientation. If they smell like marijuana, that's a good sign, too. People on marijuana also lose their inhibitions, so if they seem not to care about anything, at least more than normal, that's a sign, Kozak said.
There are of course concrete ways to determine all these things. If you have strong suspicion that your child is using drugs, you can buy drug test at a pharmacy, or call a doctor and have them tested there. That's also the time to start an intervention program.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7896061 - 01/18/08 04:45 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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hahaha. in high school, i got called into the office once and they did some of these tests. they said i was on drugs and called in my parents. i had only gotten stoned once and done mushrooms once, but these were like 6 months earlier. my mom was so sad, but she believed me.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: impgl]
#7896078 - 01/18/08 05:04 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Know your dope fiend. You will not be able to see his eyes because of tea shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim. -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7896085 - 01/18/08 05:09 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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If they smell like marijuana, that's a good sign, too.
This guy is a genius.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Seuss]
#7896113 - 01/18/08 05:31 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Seuss said: Know your dope fiend. You will not be able to see his eyes because of tea shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim. -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7896114 - 01/18/08 05:31 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Leave the kids alone and let them do their droogs, damn.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Robo]
#7896143 - 01/18/08 05:57 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
WTF
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Robo]
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7896202 - 01/18/08 06:48 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Hilarious!
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7896205 - 01/18/08 06:50 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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VHS started talking about mainly alchohol and weed abuse test, but he did not mention a single test to detect someone high on chronic. I guess stoners are safe
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7896210 - 01/18/08 06:51 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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And what typical teenager comes home on a friday night from a party on PCP anyway what a joke
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Robo]
#7896257 - 01/18/08 07:14 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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One time in High School, the assistant principal was an ex cop anyway they brought me and my stuff down to the office, he then asked If I was under the influence of narcotics. Now I did smoke pot that morning 4 hours earlier and was on xanax that day but am prescribed to those. He then tried some of those test but I guess they were inconclusive. He searched my bag, and winter coat and made me empty my pockets. They didnt find anything because when he came to class to talk to my teacher I knew something was up so I hid my xannys in my sock. They then called my mom to come get me because he couldn't allow me to drive my vehicle home. She asked him If I could drive hers and she drive mine lol. He looked pissed at the idea, he was also furious at her for telling him he was dumb for thinking I was high. He just said the same thing over and over " I was trained to spot these things, I use to be a cop" anyway sorry for ranting. I went home for about 30 min then went back and got my truck
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: DontPlay]
#7896262 - 01/18/08 07:18 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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sounds like a real faggot lol ^^
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: eyefyndum]
#7896454 - 01/18/08 08:28 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
WTF
I almost missed that jem, I had to go back and reread it.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Robo]
#7896660 - 01/18/08 09:26 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Omni said: And what typical teenager comes home on a friday night from a party on PCP anyway what a joke
Yeah, no kidding! It's people like that who give teens' parents something more to worry about. They make them so suspicious of their actions.
I think it is quite demeaning of that particular age range to assume their life is surrounded by drugs all the time and that they wish to use them.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: fapjack]
#7896670 - 01/18/08 09:29 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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fapjack said:
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
WTF
I almost missed that jem, I had to go back and reread it.
Bah, the soda isle is WAY better
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Grylls]
#7896693 - 01/18/08 09:33 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Another thing: what average, emo-listening teenager is going to have access to Peyote?
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Grylls]
#7896935 - 01/18/08 10:42 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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In my chemistry class, I would always sleep. I never smoked, but people kept saying I was high. The teacher over-heard and told the dean. The dean called me in and asked if I would take a drug test. I agreed and got to leave school to get tested. I passed the test and got to throw it in the dean and teacher's face that I wasn't using drugs...In that same week, I smoked pot for the first time! Since people in my school thought I was a stoner, They invited me to blaze.
So if I didn't get blamed for being on drugs, I probably never would have started
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7897006 - 01/18/08 11:06 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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b0red5tiff said: He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
thats probably one of the most retarded things ive ever heard who the hell does that
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: danlennon3]
#7897030 - 01/18/08 11:14 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Ditto for me with slightly different details.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: xpl0de]
#7897036 - 01/18/08 11:18 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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xpl0de said:
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b0red5tiff said: He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
thats probably one of the most retarded things ive ever heard who the hell does that
Ive done it, believe you me, when your trippin on acid at 3 in the morning, stop at a meijer's and fuck with everything. Its quite fun, and it always seems like no 1 cares.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: xpl0de]
#7897037 - 01/18/08 11:18 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Look to see if your child is staring into space, with their attention fixed on inanimate objects
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Primal Glitch]
#7897073 - 01/18/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Oh noesssssss someone is gonna find out im high as fuck. Shit looks like I DONT GIVA FUCK.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Primal Glitch]
#7897074 - 01/18/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Funny article
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: BrandNoob]
#7897259 - 01/18/08 12:40 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Its this kind of bullshit that really fires me up. Articles like this that are to make parents feel like they are not as smart and need out side sources of information to keep track of what their kids could be doing. All fear. The parents are like robots inputing these tests into their kids, expecting either reaction A or B. B meaning they are ON DRUGS! Its dividing the family, its dividing the relationship between parents and children. I can't full put it into words, but the visual is quite clear to me. This is why families are fucked, because the parents and kids are always using outside influences to kind of direct how they are supposed to act and be around one another. Pisses me off!
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Robo]
#7897337 - 01/18/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Omni said: And what typical teenager comes home on a friday night from a party on PCP anyway what a joke
What regular teen goes out on a friday night to trip in the "colorful detergent isle"
Lol fucking outstandingly hilarious haha.
I'm gonna do it just to say that he's right.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: BrandNoob]
#7897756 - 01/18/08 03:04 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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This stuff is wack. I seriously got arrested because the officer thought I was driving high and I was completely sober and had been for days. The took me to one of those drug recognition 'experts' and he said "yep, definately high on marijuana" and then they locked me up for 24 hours.
After 2 months of DWI hearings we finally paid like a lawyer $2000 to get the toxicology report which the police had the next week and was completely clean.
No apology or anything I couldn't sue because there was no profit for the lawyer.
Just recently I had to fork over another $500 just to get it cleared off my record. I like how I had to pay a bunch of money and do all this shit myself when I wasn't even legitly arrested.
I don't trust drug recognition experts. They can say anyone is on drugs they want.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: xpl0de]
#7897899 - 01/18/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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xpl0de said:
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b0red5tiff said: He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
thats probably one of the most retarded things ive ever heard who the hell does that
Oh, HELL yes! Who wouldn't do that?!?!?! I gotta go to the grocery store now and stare at laundry detergent so i can make the most out of my life. brb.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: eyefyndum]
#7897994 - 01/18/08 04:04 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
WTF
Walmart here I come. I think parents just need to take a better approach to drug use with thier children.
Like my dad, when I was a 10. He accused me of smoking weed (Prior to that point I never had) then told me if your going to smoke, you'll smoke with me. He pulled out a bowl, packed it, smoked me out, and I never stopped smoking.
Going 11 years strong.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7898040 - 01/18/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle
What a tard, hopefully they arent trying to steal our precious bodily fluids and poison our drinking water.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: eyefyndum]
#7898506 - 01/18/08 06:04 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
I know of one such case...
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7898678 - 01/18/08 06:47 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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You know who the real DREs (drug recognition experts) are? The people that use them.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: Grylls]
#7900914 - 01/19/08 09:47 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Lol at the thing about the detergent aisle. It's kind of true. Aisles of any sort trip me out actually, I once went to a reference library to do a project on 2 grams and walking through the aisles of books tripped me out pretty hard. Supermarkets make me nervous on shrooms for some reason.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: jellyfish]
#7900973 - 01/19/08 10:07 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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i have had terrible visions of food products in gas stations.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: BrandNoob]
#7901022 - 01/19/08 10:25 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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"You don't want to surprise them," Kozak said
fucking LMAO
ok... im gonna sneak up on the infamous 'drug addict' "You don't want to surprise them," cuz they could jump up and BITE YA, crikey
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: eyefyndum]
#7901664 - 01/19/08 01:08 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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He often noticed that people on hallucinogens liked to visit grocery stores and hang out in the colorful detergent isle.
WTF
yeah....i did that once on acid, but it was a mini mart not a grocery store. and it wasnt the detergent isle it was the snack isle lol.
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: nk pakelika]
#7904674 - 01/20/08 03:35 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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supermarkets used to freak me out on weed and psyches, just cause its so bright in them and most people in their seem so straight. but after i moved out of my parents house, i stopped caring
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Re: How to spot a drug user [Avon] [Re: impgl]
#7905139 - 01/20/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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The articles purpose is to make parents paranoid that the kids are using drugs and make the kids paranoid that the parents might think there using drugs, shitty article !!!
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