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Saw two grays... * 1
    #7895473 - 01/17/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

If anybody here wants to tell me some bullshit or laugh.. please spare my time, yours and everybody elses. This is M&P. I don't care if you think if my mind is trying to make sense of random short circuits in my brain.

I do not have any sort of mental disorders.

I have always been very receptive to different energies. I've had experiences with what have been described to me by certain people as ghosts during sleep paralysis. I've felt presences, warm energies, seen what looked like shadows and felt breathing close to me. I've even felt them touch me. When I'm in this state I am fully conscious, and it takes me a few seconds to break out of the paralysis. At times these experiences have become incredibly terrifying. It wasn't until a couple of months ago I was told by a few that to get rid of these bothersom ghosts I needed to sprinkle salt water all over the place and tell the ghosts to get the fuck out. I did this. I haven't had any ghastly expriences since.

About a month ago, I wake up to a loud high frequency buzzing sound in my ear. Hell I could even feel this buzzing. I opened my eyes and noticed a blueish hue in the atmosphere. I couldn't move. This wasn't sleep paralysis. I felt completely detatched from my body so I gave up on trying to move. I've never given up on trying to break out of sleep paralysis. Usually I can move my hand just a tad, and push harder and harder until I break out of it. This time I couldn't move atall.. nada.. zilch...

I am fully conscious, mind you, and I am thinking as straight as an arrow.

While I was trying to break out my paralysis, and what was scaring the shit out of me was that I was looking right at 2 little green guys. They were very small, maybe 4 feet tall or so. About the same build as a 7 year old. Big black eyes, no nose. I have a very sharp and vivid picture in my mind. I could draw picture of them if I wanted to. I got the feeling that they were there to *check* up on me, or that they were just scanning the area, and due to my receptiveness I was about to *see*.

After about over a minute it all dissipated. I could move again. There was no breaking *out* of the paralysis. The paralysis left along with everything else.

I sat up thinking, "Holy shit! I did NOT just see that!". I told myself that I'd either forget about it, or convince myself it was some sort of sleep paralysis dream.

But I know it was neither.

I know they are here. That guess that is why I fell asleep with a smile on my face.

After doing alot of reading on negative energy, extra-dimensions, electrogravity, remote sensing, and quantum energy fluctuations, this experience does not confuse me, nor does it frighten me. I know it wasn't a dream, because I know my dreams. I know it wasn't sleep paralysis, because I know my sleep paralysis. This was completely different. Even the energy felt unatural (kind of metallic, powerful, and controlled) and nothing like I have ever experienced before. Completely *not* me.

I remember years ago a buddy of mine gave me a link for a website that had to do with *seeing* the grays. He said that people were doing this but warned that it was truly fucked up. I read about a paragraph on the site and closed the window. Thought it was total bullshit.

I haven't been able to find that website.

The interesting thing is that no matter how much you tell these types of things to people, they will never understand until you experience it for yourself. Even some of the believers won't believe it.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Ginseng1] * 1
    #7895749 - 01/18/08 12:41 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I understand what you are talking about. Although my own experiences have not been identical, I have had the pleasure of knowing someone else was very close to me and not human, at least in the usual sense. I can't understand what's going on- in all honestly it's rather frightening. However, all I can hope is that we all can treat these experiences with acceptance and open-mindedness...


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Ginseng1] * 1
    #7895764 - 01/18/08 12:54 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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Interesting. I have been adamant in feeling that to view what people consider "aliens" solely as extra-terrestrial from outer space is quite limiting. More emphasis needs to be placed upon the perspective of these entities as extra-vibrational, usually beyond the scope of perception. To look upon them in this light will open up a whole new range of possibilities and understanding.
The buzzing you note is extremely common with "Hecate" type astral projection(violent transition). I have noted this internal buzzing sensation to originate from both the ajna chakra region and the throat. It seems to be a very pronounced sensation of rapid and increasing fervor, closer in interval as one makes the transition to the astral. Is your account similar? Also, was your perception as a point consciousness, or a body type consciousness?
Btw, in the text you claim that these entities were green as opposed to gray as stated in the thread title. Which is it?
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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: lavod] * 1
    #7896606 - 01/18/08 09:10 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

sounds like a visit from or to the astral realm. there are beings in the astral realm near us all the time, sometimes very strange, sometimes resembling earth creatures like scorpions or rabbits. you said you felt detached from your body - did it feel like you were moving or your awareness was based on an intention alone? i think this is what lavod means by point consciousness.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: EternalCowabunga] * 1
    #7896761 - 01/18/08 09:58 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I was paralyised and unable to move. Unlike sleep paralysis, I felt somewhat detatched from my body and had no chance of "breaking" out of it so I gave up and just watched them. I also did not feel confused, groggy, or hazy. I was fully conscious. It felt like a paralysis produced by something outside of me.

They were greenish gray. Gray because they looked like your common 4 feet tall grays. Infact, they looked pretty much exactly like them. One of them was looking at me, this was way too crazy for me so I didn't ask any questions in my head. I just watched them.

They are no doubt extra-dimensional. All higher evolved ETs are extra-dimesional. I like to believe that their technology functions within extra-dimensions as well. As William Cooper said, aliens themselves can appear to walk right through walls if captured by government militia. This must be negative energy fluctuations changing an objects energy frequency so high that its desity enters below zero, becomes negative, and is therefore apart from the physical confines/ gravitational and density laws of the 3rd dimension. We too are extra-dimensional beings (obviously), except we haven't been taught/exposed to this side of our existance, therefore we do not know how to control exactly where we go and exactly who we communicate with, and what exactly it's all about.

If anybody is a pro at remote sensing/ astral trave please PM me!

A good experience it was, though. To me, the whole experience did not feel organic whatsoever. Instead, it felt controlled, somewhat metallic.

The buzzing felt kind of like a drilling beam of energy that felt like it was focused just in/on my ear, ( I could feel high pitched buzzing kind of spraying in/into my ear like a watergun). I will assume that the buzzing was just "alien" energy vibrating all around me, and my ears the most sensitive to the frequency. It was what woke me up after all.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Ginseng1] * 1
    #7897614 - 01/18/08 02:19 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)



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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #7897661 - 01/18/08 02:36 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Could you draw the picture?


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: WScott] * 1
    #7898032 - 01/18/08 04:11 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

It wouldn't be exactly non-debate and so doesn't belong here. I just wanted to let him know that his thread had bled over into another forum.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #7898992 - 01/18/08 08:13 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I have a feeling that you perhaps had a sudden spike in your endogenous DMT levels in the brain. At what time of night would you approximate this to have occurred? Also, did you use any weed or drink before bed?

More background information about you is needed to draw a more complete picture. No physical evidence can be given, just testimony -- which is evidence itself.

Have you had any other "similar" experiences as a very, very young child? The tendency is that these entities like to visit the very young (infants and toddlers)because of their "accepting" ability.

Have you ever tried DMT? If not, I encourage you to research the "entity contact" experiences of DMT users to see if this sounds similar in feeling/perception.

Best of luck!


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: MystikMushroom] * 1
    #7899449 - 01/18/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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The tendency is that these entities like to visit the very young (infants and toddlers)because of their "accepting" ability.





On what do you base this supposition?


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #7899649 - 01/18/08 10:55 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Ginseng,

Why do you have a alien as an avatar?


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #7899702 - 01/18/08 11:06 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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The tendency is that these entities like to visit the very young (infants and toddlers)because of their "accepting" ability.





On what do you base this supposition?


nice with the supposition.:thumbup:


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Jack Albertson] * 1
    #7900172 - 01/19/08 02:22 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

I reply with this testimony:

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They seemed to like it, or were at least confused as to what I was doing. They would look at me, and then look at each other, making strange expressions that I could not understand. They seemed to communicate with each other for nearly 5 minutes without looking back over at me. I had no idea what they were doing. They later told me that most people are so scared of them, that they don't even bother trying to make contact with older humans anymore. They usually go for children, because they are more open minded. If you were visted as a child, you will probably be visited again when you are more mature. That's what it is, is contact. They told me that most people aren't ready, and it is evident by how frozen they become with fear, so they stick to children and revisit the children who they deem to have potential for contact.




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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: appleorange] * 1
    #7900248 - 01/19/08 02:41 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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Ginseng,

Why do you have a alien as an avatar?




I'm into aliens. The alien mind is a beautiful thing.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Ginseng1] * 1
    #7900284 - 01/19/08 02:50 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

My *personal* belief is that "greys" are extra-dimensional constructs of the universal "one" mind. "We" create them in times of stress or emotional dilemma. All *IS* all, so these "creatures" are no more the chair we are sitting in right now -- but due to the mental processes we go through..

...and eventually encounter....we "create" an outside and "alien" presence to help us guide our "coddled" psyche into a safe place.

We are the alien, and the alien truly resides within us.

I hate to use a star wars metaphor, but the line, "search your feelings, you know this to be true" is apt.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: MystikMushroom] * 1
    #7900321 - 01/19/08 03:03 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

I understand your view.

But.. think about it.

No one human is the centre of the universe. So why would the human group mind be the centre of the universe?

If it is easy for the universe to have this relationship with conciousness, why? Because it exists, and you don't see any *god* waving a wand around *creating* us. It creates itself. Therefore it does not strain. It just is. And so this fact embraces God power. Infinite power.

Considering how old life is estimated to be on Earth, it would seem sensible that somewhere in the vast regions of space, there could be life attatched to conciousness, much older and exponentially more advanced in the understanding of energy. Everything is energy. Everything.

I think humans have so much shit to sort through anyways, once we pass the tests, we will move forward with more humility, understanding, acceptance, and a much more elastic sense of space and time.

Take a good look at the human as one entity. A beautifully creature in so many ways. But equally as grotesque, arrogant and unaware.

Nobody, ever, knows all the answers. But some look at the answers they have, and in acknoledging certain respects, certain asnwers falls in place. The universe.. so profound and powerful. It is beyond us. To think not would show arrogance to the universe. I believe is much more competent and aware of itself than we think. Fuck, we don't even know what we are. We are just another one of the universes children of many. And I believe some of those children that existed before us, have matured into cosmic adults. beautiful...

this type of thinking keeps me sane. Because the world and what we do with it makes absolutely no fuckin sense to me.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: MystikMushroom] * 1
    #7900332 - 01/19/08 03:09 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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My *personal* belief is that "greys" are extra-dimensional constructs of the universal "one" mind. "We" create them in times of stress or emotional dilemma. All *IS* all, so these "creatures" are no more the chair we are sitting in right now -- but due to the mental processes we go through..

...and eventually encounter....we "create" an outside and "alien" presence to help us guide our "coddled" psyche into a safe place.

We are the alien, and the alien truly resides within us.

I hate to use a star wars metaphor, but the line, "search your feelings, you know this to be true" is apt.




By this very logical, you or I, can assume that everything that appears to exist outside of us is but an illusion. That you, as a single person, are the true centre of your universe, and nothing outside of your perspective is conscious of itself. We would have to conclude that this cannot be, because we all think, therefore we are.

Remember though, always, that all is one. We are just energy experiencing itself. So in this sense, nothing is alien. Nothing is apart.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Ginseng1] * 1
    #7900462 - 01/19/08 04:25 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Dude man...this might sound simplistic at this point...but...

We are all part of the whole...the "one" ... we are ALL what we consider "God Incarnate" if we just allow ourselves to entertain the idea.

The "one-ness" has and will continue to find new and infinite ways of expressing/experiencing that idea...

Hence the reason some us of us suffer and other seem to easily "prosper"...

Take heed to your station in this lifetime. Learn, observe and be "aware" of what has come before and what might come afore-mentioned by myself and many others.

Contrary to popular belief...true divinity resides in each of us--if buy only we can shake the constraints of the current "social - order"...

I wait for that time--and I encourage those younger than myself to carry that torch for myself.

Namaste,

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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Ginseng1] * 1
    #7900925 - 01/19/08 09:51 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Right on.


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Re: Saw two grays... [Re: Jack Albertson] * 1
    #7900933 - 01/19/08 09:54 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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ts727 said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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The tendency is that these entities like to visit the very young (infants and toddlers)because of their "accepting" ability.





On what do you base this supposition?


nice with the supposition.:thumbup:




Why not answer the question?


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