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Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess....
    #7895271 - 01/17/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

All I can say is wtf? Sorry guys....should have researched this one a lil better before I posted.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that he was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soeto ro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!


Would you want this man leading our country?


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7895276 - 01/17/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Boy, capitalizing all those words really got your point across. God forbid you have to rely on the content of your post rather than the style in which you deliver it.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7895377 - 01/17/08 10:45 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)



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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: zorbman]
    #7895534 - 01/17/08 11:27 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

OMG he's slightly different we're all fucked!


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7895892 - 01/18/08 01:44 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

like omgz Obama iz a mosluM!?


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7896074 - 01/18/08 05:02 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Barrack (saddam) Hussein Obama (bin laden) :eek:

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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896139 - 01/18/08 05:50 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

> Would you want this man leading our country?

Although I don't care for him, I would take him over anybody that posts the type of drivel you just spouted...


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: Seuss]
    #7896164 - 01/18/08 06:21 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

There was no evidence that Osama Bin Laden was even connected to 9/11. He's just a scapegoat.

I really suggest you stop watching the Oriley Factor and it's mudslinging rizingsun.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896198 - 01/18/08 06:44 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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rizingfire said:
All I can say is wtf?

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that he was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soeto ro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!


Would you want this man leading our country?




That's some stupid shit right there.

My parents raised me Catholic and then when I was old enough to make my own decisions I decided I wasn't Christian anymore. Hell.. I was Christian up until I was about 16-17. I even got dragged to a bunch of anti abortion marches and rallies and BELIEVED IN what I was involved in.

Calling Obama a Muslim because his parents put him in a Muslim school for a few years when he was a small child is as STUPID as calling ME a radical Christian clinic bomber.

Grow a brain, you racist.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: SunshineSuperman]
    #7896252 - 01/18/08 07:10 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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There was no evidence that Osama Bin Laden was even connected to 9/11. He's just a scapegoat.

I really suggest you stop watching the Oriley Factor and it's mudslinging rizingsun.




:thumbup:

Obama is just another bought and paid for politician. If he is elected nothing will change and he has already said nothing is "off the table" when dealing with iran.

Knowing what he is I still would rather have him in there than hitlery. Seeing that they went out of their way to rob obama of the NH primary shows they don't like the idea of him as the sole front runner. That at least makes me feel a lil better about him, but not much. All these dogs are bought and paid for but Paul and Kucinich. At least the Ron Paul movement shows there are lots of americans sick of the bullshit and given a few more elections we are going to get to loud to ignore or "marginalize".

Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Wall Street and AIPAC are the fringe! Not the massive amount of individual donors to the Paul movement.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #7896298 - 01/18/08 07:36 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)



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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896303 - 01/18/08 07:37 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I got this idea that a lot of people base their vote on information such as this.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: blackegg]
    #7896464 - 01/18/08 08:29 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Ok, you are right, I found a lot of stuff leaning in both directions so in the interest of just presenting the material it is up to all of us to sort it out...so here are some links for and against it.

Some of these support it and some defend it. I bet there really was an article on snopes but it was removed to discredit the documentation of said write-up. IIt is so deceptive. I wish we went by individual vote instead of the electoral college. Course like in Mass, the democrats don't care what the people want if it differs from their party's agenda. Like the fact that there are 300,000 voters who signed a petition to vote on gay marriage, the request was denied because it will be a guaranteed loss. When Deval Patrick stood up for that murderer or rapist, whatever he was...everyone defended him saying he wanted to keep the law and make sure he got a fair trial, who cares if a killer goes free, right? That make no sense that he was fighting to uphold the system but when the judicial branch violates the law by legislating from the bench nothing is done about it? What a bunch of hypocrites.....anything to further their cause.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015222.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/28/AR2007112802757.html

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

I know insight is a right wing mag but none the less, slander laws still apply if it wasn't true why isn't there any legal action being taken? Prob cuz it really is true!
Everyone can decide for themselves...as for me I wouldn't doubt it if it is true.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

we can really never know since the majority of the media is liberal and anytime fox reports something the libbies don't like they just deny it...even if they are on camera doing it....heavy denial.

He initially admitted being Muslim as a child for 2 years but now his site says he was never muslim. He is just a liar I guess since he told the Associated press the opposite before. Even the the report debunking the allegation states he was raised muslim for 2 yrs....kinda fishy if you ask me. Wink

This is pretty interesting too:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/cover031006.htm

In his defense though I would question that if his dad or stepdad was a radical Islamofascist then he probably wouldn't have married an infidel though.

However another good point was raised. If the president defines relations with other countries, an ex muslim is to be executed by Islamic law so how will electing him lesson our terrorist threat? If anything it will make it worse. After all it is a war against Islam more than terrorism since active obedience to their faith calls for violence towards any and all who are not islamic. "Convert em or kill em!" is their life motto and is directly ordered in the Quaran. They are not even allowed to be friends with non islamics unless they are doing it to manipulate or use you...then they can enslave you, convert you , or kill you...all in the name of allah.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896477 - 01/18/08 08:32 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Brain, are you not using yours? How am I a racist? Islam is a religion, not a race...so I guess that makes you an idiot right?


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: SunshineSuperman]
    #7896481 - 01/18/08 08:33 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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SunshineSuperman said:
There was no evidence that Osama Bin Laden was even connected to 9/11. He's just a scapegoat.

I really suggest you stop watching the Oriley Factor and it's mudslinging rizingsun.



Never watched Oreily in my life!


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896483 - 01/18/08 08:34 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

This discussion wouldn't even be happening if he were white.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896488 - 01/18/08 08:36 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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Brain, are you not using yours? How am I a racist? Islam is a religion, not a race...so I guess that makes you an idiot right?




Oh yea.. and my bad.. you're right. That just makes you a BIGOT then, not a racist. Sorry for the confusion. Being a bigot isn't as bad :rolleyes:


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7896490 - 01/18/08 08:36 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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Boy, capitalizing all those words really got your point across. God forbid you have to rely on the content of your post rather than the style in which you deliver it.




Actually asshole that was cut and paste 100%, I didn't capitalize shit! I delivered it as it was so maybe you could know what the hell you are saying before attacking me for something I didn't do!


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896508 - 01/18/08 08:40 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Better than not knowing what the hell you're saying and attacking Obama for something HE didn't do.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896514 - 01/18/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Hah that's like quoting Mein Kampf, and get upset when people call you a nazi.

Not really.

But I think there is a rule that you have to post source when you quote or something.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: Arp]
    #7896520 - 01/18/08 08:43 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I think in the Politics forum... in the pub though.. anything probably goes.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: BrAiN]
    #7896561 - 01/18/08 08:57 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

There are parts of it that apear somewhat factual. I went and looked it up after and some pages said that Obama said he was muslim at 7-8 and then went to Catholic School, however his govt site even denies that, so he is a liar, we know that much, but so is every politician. I guess it remains that on election day we pick the lesser of 2 evils and this yr that is on the GOP ticket. Whoever gets it. It's a hard pill to swallow but you should have til at least 2016 to get it down.I really don't care enough about the subject to go back and find it. I know he doesn't stand a chance so it is no skin off my teeth...hehe cuz who ever gets the Dem nominee, I think you will find the fued between Obamma and Hillary just killed the Dems chance at the white house since many of her supporter would never vote for him and vice versa. They never should have gotten so hostile amongst themselves. A house divided will fall, guaranteed. Where as the GOP mindset is a lil different. Other than Ron Paul supporters whos #'s aren't enough to matter, the majority of republicans will vote for who ever gets the nomination.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896566 - 01/18/08 08:59 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Barrack Obama is RESPONSIBLE for 9/11!

His PARENTS weren't even CHRISTIANS!

Do you really want the product of a marriage that ended in DIVORCE in command of the US MILITARY!!??!!


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896585 - 01/18/08 09:05 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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There are parts of it that apear somewhat factual. I went and looked it up after and some pages said that Obama said he was muslim at 7-8 and then went to Catholic School, however his govt site even denies that, so he is a liar, we know that much, but so is every politician. I guess it remains that on election day we pick the lesser of 2 evils and this yr that is on the GOP ticket. Whoever gets it. It's a hard pill to swallow but you should have til at least 2016 to get it down.I really don't care enough about the subject to go back and find it. I know he doesn't stand a chance so it is no skin off my teeth...hehe cuz who ever gets the Dem nominee, I think you will find the fued between Obamma and Hillary just killed the Dems chance at the white house since many of her supporter would never vote for him and vice versa. They never should have gotten so hostile amongst themselves. A house divided will fall, guaranteed. Where as the GOP mindset is a lil different. Other than Ron Paul supporters whos #'s aren't enough to matter, the majority of republicans will vote for who ever gets the nomination.




Thanks for actually putting some thought into this post (seriously) instead of spewing out more propoganda crap that was obviously spread in an attempt to make it viral.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7896589 - 01/18/08 09:06 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

ABSOLUTELY NOT, GLUKE! We need a product of fat-ugly-intern-extra-marital-affairs to be in command of the military!

I like the fact that Obama has the balls to admit he's tried coke (unlike our current president), and marijuana (unlike Bill Clinton)... or at least the smarts to bring it up first before it could be used to broadside him later.



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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: rizingfire]
    #7896602 - 01/18/08 09:09 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I would like to see some actual proof that he is a practicing Muslim, or a Muslim at all.

All I know is that he went to a Muslim school for two years, and the next two years to a Catholic. Would you find a true Muslim in a Catholic school?


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: Arp]
    #7896607 - 01/18/08 09:11 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Not to mention this is when he's 6 YEARS OLD! When you're 6 .. your religion is whatever your parents TELL YOU your religion is.

I heard when he was 6, Obama ate some dirt! OMG! Do we want a practicing MUD EATER TO BE in the office!?!?!?!


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: BrAiN]
    #7897189 - 01/18/08 12:25 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I really should have researched it before I posted. I agree that it is silly if it was when he was a kid however how we are raised does ultimately influence our beliefs. I was raised by sorta Christians who went overboard and I left the church and went as goth, dark and twisted as I could get but years later, while still holding the opinion that Christians were pathetic people who wanted an excuse to feel better about the shit they did I had a God experience that I couldn't deny, so I am a Christian of my own choice. However it seems that many people think Christianity is a bunch of rules you have to follow or go to hell and that is outright Bullshit! The Bible actually says that no matter how much you sin, if you accepted Christ then you are sealed in the Spirit and the Greek means with a seal that can't be broken even by the King who sealed it. So for the non practising Christian I would say God will get you when He is good and ready. I got tired of the things He lets happen to get my attention so I gave in....but He has blessed me more than I could ever tell, so my faith is solid. That doesn't mean I am perfect or don't do bad stuff...I like drugs unfortunately but thankfully He delivered me from heroin and made it possible for me to get mine legally, finally. If He acted a lil faster I could have avoided the 5yr jail term but I never would have turned back if I hadn't lost everything so many times. Though the United Church or Christ is not accepted by mainstream Christianity because of several heretical beliefs, I hope he really is a Christian, cuz then there is hope that he will be a good leader should he win....which I highly doubt anyway. I say it is between Huckabee and Romney but who knows, anything can happen....maybe McCain can pull it off? I am curious to see who the VP picks are going to be. Obamma /Hillary? Ya right....I doubt they can even stand to be in the same room as each other.... Like Ron Paul and any other Republican that is conservative.It will be an interesting year, that's for sure.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: rizingfire]
    #7897692 - 01/18/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Hussein - Hussein
Barrack - Iraq
Obama - Osama

Not making an definitive claims about this, but I think he is just as much of a puppet as the rest.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: rizingfire]
    #7898239 - 01/18/08 04:58 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Religion is pretty much religion and it's up to the practitioner to make it worthwhile or not. I'm sure that there are Muslims that are better humans then many Christians and vice versa. It's what's in the heart and not what the clothes look like.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: WScott]
    #7898261 - 01/18/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

WScottsdale said:
Hussein - Hussein
Barrack - Iraq
Obama - Osama

Not making an definitive claims about this, but I think he is just as much of a puppet as the rest.




something scary about it. new world order? perhaps alex jones has a point :smile:


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: Arp]
    #7898267 - 01/18/08 05:07 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

> perhaps alex jones has a point :smile:

Alex Jones always has a point... his pocket book.  Like most of those that fan the flames of conspiracy, he profits very nicely.


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? just propaganda I guess.... [Re: Seuss]
    #7898293 - 01/18/08 05:13 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

its almost insane. what are the odds of a black democrat nominee with that sorta name? haha


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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: Arp]
    #7899518 - 01/18/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: blackegg]
    #7899543 - 01/18/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

"I really should have researched it before I posted. I agree that it is silly if it was when he was a kid however how we are raised does ultimately influence our beliefs. I was raised by sorta Christians who went overboard and I left the church and went as goth, dark and twisted as I could get but years later, while still holding the opinion that Christians were pathetic people who wanted an excuse to feel better about the shit they did I had a God experience that I couldn't deny, so I am a Christian of my own choice. However it seems that many people think Christianity is a bunch of rules you have to follow or go to hell and that is outright Bullshit! The Bible actually says that no matter how much you sin, if you accepted Christ then you are sealed in the Spirit and the Greek means with a seal that can't be broken even by the King who sealed it. So for the non practising Christian I would say God will get you when He is good and ready. I got tired of the things He lets happen to get my attention so I gave in....but He has blessed me more than I could ever tell, so my faith is solid. That doesn't mean I am perfect or don't do bad stuff...I like drugs unfortunately but thankfully He delivered me from heroin and made it possible for me to get mine legally, finally. If He acted a lil faster I could have avoided the 5yr jail term but I never would have turned back if I hadn't lost everything so many times. Though the United Church or Christ is not accepted by mainstream Christianity because of several heretical beliefs, I hope he really is a Christian, cuz then there is hope that he will be a good leader should he win....which I highly doubt anyway. I say it is between Huckabee and Romney but who knows, anything can happen....maybe McCain can pull it off? I am curious to see who the VP picks are going to be. Obamma /Hillary? Ya right....I doubt they can even stand to be in the same room as each other.... Like Ron Paul and any other Republican that is conservative.It will be an interesting year, that's for sure. "

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Re: Who is B.Obamma ? You might want to know this...and vote against him!! [Re: blackegg]
    #7905790 - 01/20/08 01:23 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

I wasn't preaching, you all make your opinion and beliefs known, I made mine. Honestly I could give a shit if you burn in hell, just I know if there is one I wont be there. I don't preach to anyone ...well...if you short my bag or spill my shit maybe. You guys are really fucked up some times. I never claimed I was perfect or said anyone was doing anything wrong, did I? It is like athiesm is a religion as well...just with lesser defined boundries wraped around the belief that the 300,000+ chemical responses, many of which need multiple others to function propperly, that all came about from a singled cell. I would think that the old would have to be so old from trail and error that we don't have a number for it. I think that it takes more faith to be an athiest than it does to be a Christian. All these critical and criticizing posts, since I doubt I am the 1st... are just your way of continuously re-affirming that you are right, when really you can hope but there is not enough scientific evidence supporting the complete theorey of our existence. Much of it was made on assumption of many factors that we have no way of confirming or refuting. That means you believe because they told you so. Then when you researched you didn't actually prove anything but you found enough that you figure you can make a decision. There aren't enough days in the life of a human if you never slept a minute to read and compared even a small portion of what it really entails...so you brother act and think by your faith in science. You have lots of bibles all written by men and you haven't conducted every experiment yourself have you??

So don't push your faith on me either...lol...even when I hated Christians I never considered myself ignorant enough to believe that what we have today just happened. They have created cells out of amino acids but they were like building a PC without installing windows, there was nobody home in the nucleus, that can't just happen.

What you believe is your business, but one has to be really self-conscious if they have to criticize others beliefs for sport.

Don't act like I am a Jehovahs witness trying to convert anyone, personally I think some people deserve to get what they get and maybe that is wrong but that is me and my God as I know Him, still loves me anyway so I realy don't sweat it...no disrespect intended of course. I just remember mentioning my beliefs and getting flammed a while back and (not saying that is what you are doing cuz what you said was harmless)figured I would just make my thoughts known now. Cuz really, I got to where I am because of what I believe and most will never accomplish what I have so I am greatful. I do go out of my way to help people and help others be successful and I am a good person. Though you can pick your friends and your party affiliation, you can't pick your family. My dad is a shitbag and I turned out like him for a while. It does concern me that he may have some beliefs that people arent considering and Islam is 3/4 of the terrorist drive, it is because the quaran says to kill or enslave all those in the world who aren't islamic...and anyone who doesn't follow their traditions. A plane bomber is the equivalent comparison to a pentecostal Bible Banger.

We wont know until it is too late though and I am all set with chancing that. If he does get the nomination I hope he keeps his word. It would be really nice to see whoever gets elected actually follow through with their promises for once.


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