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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: doitagain]
    #7899253 - 01/18/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

this make my day , i love your work inski , thank you for sharing
every time i see your mushrooms i think all are new species , and look now so much mutant , that nipple is somethin i have never seen , i can only relate to a crazy hoosganii or something , well in micreoscopic of nipple only and that ring that is so slow look like the mushrooms elongate a lot after it open ,
amazing those temperatures , are nice fro mi area, jaja see you later


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: cactu]
    #7901812 - 01/19/08 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Theyre screaming "EAT ME!"


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?

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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: Deity208]
    #7901965 - 01/19/08 02:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Deity208 said:
Theyre screaming "EAT ME!"



:rolleyes:

It's that kind of impulse that is the reason so many rare collections never make it to herbariums for future study.


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: CureCat]
    #7901992 - 01/19/08 02:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hes been posting these types for months and says they grow year round at the nursery. I would have eaten at least a couple, in the name of science of course. :grin:


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: sui]
    #7902058 - 01/19/08 02:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, he has potentially 3-4 species or perhaps sub-species growing there at the green house.

I was just saying. Usually you hear that people ate ALL of them. Which just sucks.
I have no problem with bioassay, just leave a few for the microscopists.


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: CureCat]
    #7902061 - 01/19/08 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i looked at his galery. Fucking amazing :awesome:

I wish i could eat one.


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: sui]
    #7903202 - 01/19/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Inski, how do you keep finding shrooms! Maybe these could be some sort of native mushroom that hasnt been studied yet?

It looks like some sort of native fern in the pot. I remember helping my mate harvest ferns from the bush on his farm to sell at a local nursery, there were a few shrooms that grew in the same area as the ferns (cool, damp). Unfortunately i had no idea about magic mushrooms at the time..

Any kind of plant that they are especially abundant in?

I still cant believe your luck...


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: inski]
    #7903906 - 01/19/08 10:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Unbelievable umbos!  Psilocybe nipplensis!  Psilocybe purplenurplaea!  Psilocybe areola!  I could go on for hours, but I digress.
I hope you have collected spore prints and/or colonized substrate for the purpose of further study into this very interesting species.  My interest is piqued.  Very nice!  :rockon:

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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: sui]
    #7904130 - 01/19/08 11:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I have bioassayed these and have found them to be more potent than Psilocybe subaeruginosa and the taste is not unpleasant!
I agree with CureCat, it is a shame that people just eat all the specimens, in my case I'm more interested in the study and cultivation of these organisms and have a good collection of preserved specimens for further study.
I have a pure culture on pda cloned from a fresh fruit that I am transfering to various sterilized grains tonight, some will be cased and placed in a fruiting chamber, others will be spawned to different types of wood!
I have not noticed any particular species of plant that these mushrooms prefer and am more inclined to believe that it's the different micro climates in the nursery that help these fruit all year round, the fern is an Asplenium bulbiferum native to New Zealand.
Hi cactu good to hear from you! your right the only species I've seen that comes close regarding the papilla is P.hoogshagenii.
Anyway I was really happy to have obtained a pure culture after only one transfer away from a small bacteria colony on the original clone, wish me luck and please if anyone has any suggestions that may help with my experimentation I would love to hear them:)
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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: inski]
    #7904175 - 01/20/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LoL, your title "Shroom Magnet" is very apt.

How many species or distinct phenotypes do you think you might have?? It'd be very good to get some samples to a local mycologist who might take interest in documenting them.


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: CureCat]
    #7904216 - 01/20/08 12:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, I changed it from mad scientist to shroom magnet, I don't think i'm mad anymore and shroom magnet better describes my situation!
I think there's definately three distinct phenotypes, not sure about species!
I would like to do so but am a bit worried about the legal implications, also I don't know any mycologists at all!
Also I almost forgot, I think I found the same variety of Panaeolopsis sp that you found, I'll try to get the images up soon!
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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: inski]
    #7904395 - 01/20/08 01:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh cool!!

Try doing a search for mycologists in your area, or at least in NZ. I have not had too much difficulty contacting professors via e-mail.

There are a number of different genera of secotioid mushrooms which look similar, so I'll be very curious to see the photos!


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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: CureCat]
    #7904727 - 01/20/08 04:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Interesting Psilocybe species. [Re: inski]
    #7904756 - 01/20/08 05:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I remember those very well.

Secotioid fungi do not need to be fully enclosed, rather, their spores are not distributed by forceful expulsion like typical basidiomycetes. Instead, the spores remain on the hymenium, and do not drop, thus you will not get a spore print from any secotioid form.
Their pileus is often enclosed simply because there is no evolutionary advantage to having the hymenium exposed.
My Panaeolopsis and Galerina collections from CA were not fully enclosed.

These look like you said, a Psilocybe sp.. Perhaps a variant of Ps. subaeruginosa or Ps. novae-zelandiae(=Weraroa novae-zelandiae) would be my best guess!


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