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OfflineMinvaren
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Hollow and Solid Stems
    #7893896 - 01/17/08 04:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I did a quick search before I posted, and this thread had some pretty good info in it, however I didn't want to commit necromancy. Also, if this isn't a good topic for the Advanced Forum, please feel free to move it.

I have noticed, in dealing with several strains over the last year or two, that some strains definitely seem to be predisposed towards either hollow stems or solid stems. The maximum size of the solid-stem strains also seem to cap out lower than the size of the hollow-stem strains. The thread mentioned above also points at FAE and temperature as a factor, and my experience would back that up, but both play far less of a role than genetics.

The questions, then :

1] For any given strain/substrain, is the stem type fixed or mutable?
1a] If "fixed," would a database of strain types to stem types be of value?
1b] If "mutable," are there definite growth and/or isolation procedures to guarantee one or the other?

2] Is it other people's experience that solid-stem strains flush less (total wet/dry weight) than hollow-stem strains under similar growing conditions?

3] Has anyone else found any correlations between stem type and other fruiting/mycellial/experiential effects?

With regards to #3, my experience is that the denser the fruit, the more mystical things are experientially.

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Re: Hollow and Solid Stems (moved) [Re: Minvaren]
    #7893905 - 01/17/08 04:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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Some substrains produce hollow and some solid stems. Solid stems weigh more. I've found when working with isolated strains, they always produce one or the other, but don't go back and forth.
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Re: Hollow and Solid Stems (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7893975 - 01/17/08 05:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't the fruiting temp. have a lot to do with hollow stems? A "cooler" fruiting temp will produce slower growing fruit, but have thicker/more solid stems, a higher temp will fruit faster, but be more porous, no?


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Re: Hollow and Solid Stems (moved) [Re: Samurai_Jim]
    #7894232 - 01/17/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've seen that hollow stems will be denser under cooler fruiting temps, but will still be hollow. The solid stems just seem to grow a little smaller

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Re: Hollow and Solid Stems (moved) [Re: Minvaren]
    #7894980 - 01/17/08 09:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I fruit anywhere between 65-75f and I get both soild & hollow stems

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