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OfflineTheBlazer08
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2nd attempt
    #7894919 - 01/17/08 08:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Well my first try was pf-tek, but I didn't have a pc and all my jars turned green :frown:.

I want to wait on getting a pc till I have a bit more experience under my belt.

This time I'm going to use all pre-pc'd stuff from board sponsers.  I have a 5lb bag of rye berries, one 10lb bag of hmc compost and 1 syringe of B+.

I am scared of contams again, so I'll take you all step by step through how I plan on doing this, again remember I don't have a pc yet.

I am going to heat the syringe needle up with a lighter to sterilize, then wipe with a alchol wipe and then put a papertowel soaked in alchol over the needle.  Then I am going to wipe off the injection spot on my rye bag and inject the needle using about 4cc's.
I plan to keep it in the box it arrived in up in my closet shelf till it colonates, temps in my room are around 68-74 as it's winter right now.

Once it's ready I was gonna go with the double tub method.  I have two clear rubbermaid tubs and some polyfill, with 4 holes in each tub. 4 are about 6" from the bottom  and 4 6" from the top. 

I am going to lysol down the bathroom, shut off the heater, use a mask and gloves.  Wipe down the rubermaids with more alchol and put the poly in the holes then wipe them down again.  Then put a garbage bag in the bottom (should I clean this with rubbing alchol too?) then pour in my compost then the spawned rye and mix it up nicely together, then close the lid and tape some parts of the lid down.  Then I put a garbage bag over the container and stick it in my closet.  Once it looks like it's colinized I will remove the bag and just leave it in the closet where it will get some light from the room, but not direct.

Then hopefully I manage to grow something!
Please leave feedback and tell me what you think or anything else I can do better.

Thanks for reading
Blazer


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7895009 - 01/17/08 09:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

sounds good just wipe down the garbage bag that is lining the tub. im currently using the same method but with special substrates that i made myself and pressure cooked, also its a weird kinda double tub monotub thing ill post picks within the month since my cam is currently broken.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7895728 - 01/18/08 12:28 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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TheBlazer08 said:
Well my first try was pf-tek, but I didn't have a pc and all my jars turned green :frown:.

I




If you followed the pf tek or the mmgg without doing something stupid than not haveing a pressure cooker had nothing to do with your failure.

Pf tek and the mmgg have a 99.9999% success rate when the directions are followed


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: tahoe]
    #7896625 - 01/18/08 09:15 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I followed the directions of the tek. Then I boiled the jars for two hours. I let them sit all night with tinfoil on thm then injected and put them on my waterheater as it stays fairly warm in there. Some turned green and some grey and they stunk pretty bad so I threw them away. I'm hopin this goaround goes better for me. I did a lot of reading and I like the sounds of the double tub tek the best.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7896645 - 01/18/08 09:22 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

all i can say, is be QUICK. like flash gordon if youre doing open air inoculation.

also. its best to make a glovebox.


Edited by galadar (01/18/08 09:23 AM)


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7896648 - 01/18/08 09:22 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

damn... I ALWAYS steam my jars for an hour and NEVER get contams.. I think the last 200 jars I did, I must have had 2 that got fucked... your problem my be the way you noc up... if you have any alcohol on the syringe when you squirt out the spores, then you will kill them... flame, wipe, and let it sit for a second... alcohol evaporates very quickly...

step by step, what are you doing? oooo yeah.. 2 hours is overkill... 1 hour does it just fine...


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7896656 - 01/18/08 09:25 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

If your water heater is working properly it would get way too hot if you put the jars directly on the water heater. At least mine does. If you have cold temps in your house do a TiT (tub in tub) but if your temps linger around 75 then just put them on a shelf somewhere, you dont need to heat your substrate, you just dont want to let it get too cold.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7896952 - 01/18/08 10:47 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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TheBlazer08 said:
I followed the directions of the tek. Then I boiled the jars for two hours. I.




You first say you followed the tek and then you say you boiled for 2 hours. Which is it? Did you follow the tech or not?
The tech calls for 1 hour.
Did you use a verm layer? did you wipe the sides of the jars? did you use the correct jars? if you did everything and still fucked up then i would say bad syringe.
It isnt that hard people


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: tahoe]
    #7897018 - 01/18/08 11:09 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

It may have been an hour, it was two yrs ago so I don't remember exactly. I did follow it step by step and used a layer of verm. I can't remember if I wiped the jars or not. I also kept them in the box the jars came in and put a towel in the box when I put them on the water heater. I may try the tek again someday but for now I'm prop just gonna go wth the presterilzed stuff. Other then that does everyone think I'm on the right path with the double tubs?


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7897053 - 01/18/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

the water heater would cause them to contam. Maybe not germinate but not contam.


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Teh=The
I need to proofread


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: tahoe]
    #7897625 - 01/18/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Any other input on the grow I'm gonna try? Think I should pasturize some sort of casing for it?


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7898435 - 01/18/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

ya by the way the first grow i did was a pf tek and I was 14. I got no contams or any other problems. I didnt even have a website like this, I just read books at the library.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #7898660 - 01/18/08 06:38 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

if you are going to get into cultivating. its worth it purchase a pressure cooker.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: bw86]
    #7899806 - 01/18/08 11:27 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

for sure... you at least need a pressure cooker if you are going to sterlize grain.. you can also use pf tek style jars, 100% colonized, of course, and break those up in a ziplock bag and spawn to pasturized substrates (which is what you do to bulk subtrates anyway) like horse shit, cow shit, chicken shit... all kinds of shit.. haha.. mixed with hay and/or some other shit... that is some good shit... so yes, you do need one, but no, you dont...

blue pill or the red pill...

haha... sorry, just finished watching the matrix for the first time since it came out... how sick was that for, like, 10 years ago.... :thumbup:


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7921215 - 01/23/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Well I injected the rye bag last night with 3cc's of the b plus then put it in my closet with temps around 73. I heated up the needle with a lighter, let it cool for a little bit then wiped it down with achohl, let that dry then injected. So hopefully I see some good news in a few days....I'll try and keep this updated.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheBlazer08]
    #7921523 - 01/23/08 08:08 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Even though the bag will warm its self, you should still keep temps in the 80's until you have nice mycelium growth. I just mixed 15 blocks of coco coir/coffe grounds/horse shit that was pasturized with brazillian spawn. I have 10 72q monotub setups with about a 5in depth of innoc sub. I will case soon and post pics. Just though I should say something.


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Re: 2nd attempt [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #7972751 - 02/03/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

finally seen a little growth today!!


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