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getting over a bad acid trip
    #7894811 - 01/17/08 08:27 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

hey everyone first off im posting under my friends name i always read on here never have posted but anyways ive been needing some advice.. about a month ago a tripped real bad on acid it was my first time i did it alone and i took 3 hits yeah i know it was a dumb idea believe me flamers i already know i went throught it anyways i have tripped alot before on various things like dmt mushrooms dxm lsa salvia probobly other stuff too i cant recall at the time ofcourse some of those trips werent pleasent but the acid was just horific i can just describe it was sensory overload i became super paranoid all i could do was scream to myself and shit i was having anxiety attacks and basically freaking out i was thinking i was going to be like that forever buttt my questions are how bad could i have fucked myself up? ive pretty much solved and thought out most of the subconcious and psychosemmatic shit that came out crazy after the acid but ive mostly thought those things out but anyways i was wondering if dmt would help my case i want to be able to trip again and dmt seems right for the problem ayahuasca im talking about what are yalls ideas?


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7894845 - 01/17/08 08:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

haha, dude, only drugs you should be considering right now are anti-psychotics or anti-depressants. no fucking way are psychedelic drugs cures for bad trips.

take a break from psychedelics for a little while and get your shit straight again. consider taking medication if your condition is too bad.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: appleorange]
    #7894903 - 01/17/08 08:55 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

thanks bud but pharms are probobly worse haha i know more drugs arent the answer but dmt seems like it might help have you gone through the same expirience as me? have you done acid and dmt?


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7894977 - 01/17/08 09:11 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

haha, i'm with you man, in that I want to take a different psychedelic to get over my fear of LSD....

Mescaline is my next step. :wink:


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7895014 - 01/17/08 09:24 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Good call on wanting to avoid the prescription pharms to solve your problem, IME they don't work as well as OTC supplements and healthy living. Some ways to get over post-negative trip depression and/or anxiety include supplements of 5-HTP, vitamin B (B6 to boost the 5-HTP, and B12), anti-oxidants in vitamin C,fruits,and vegetables,etc. (healthy diet in general), and exercise. 3 hits by yourself isn't that dumb so don't sweat it.

Go for the DMT if you want, IME there's much more bad trip potential with LSD then there is with DMT; everyone is different,however. While I've never had a quote "bad trip" on either of the substances, the one I've gotten even what you could call close to a negative experience on was LSD. Fighting drugs with drugs does not always work however, so try not to have to big of expectations. The true overcoming of a psychological obstacle must come from within, and while a substance may be a catalyst to that process always remember it is you who is beating the obstacle (not just the drug). But if you are going to go that route taking MDMA might be worth a shot, as it has potential for the treatment of Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. Maybe you could give that a shot to lift your mood, it's worth a try. Just remember to take the supplements and whatnot I told you about after that experience as well should you decide to try that.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Robo]
    #7895033 - 01/17/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Omni, I like you. You seem like you know what you are talking about. I however would advocate cold, hard sobriety. No exceptions.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7895181 - 01/17/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I once had an acid trip during the course of which some menacing bald men ripped the top of my head off and shoved a blender into my brain. I actually felt it tear to pieces.

Next trip I had was about 7 weeks later, on acid that time as well, and was by far one of the greatest experiences of my life. You just need to find out why you had a bad trip, deal with that and then get on with your life. Taking a break from all drugs is probably a good idea, too.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7895233 - 01/17/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

light psychedelic to medium psychedelic enhancement is delicious - almost anytime (no driving or machinery please!!),
intense psychedelic effects, however, are not to be trifled with.

after you go to the other side, there is no longer much innocence.
even light doses can get the whole thing started.

but every trip is potentially different.
study and observe set and setting and dose with respect and gentleness.

(you can replace the verb dose with almost any other - this is a way of life.)


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7895349 - 01/17/08 10:38 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Could you replace it with the word pelican?


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7895356 - 01/17/08 10:40 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I LOL'd


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7895370 - 01/17/08 10:44 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Perhaps I'm being irrational here, but I don't think using more psychedelics is the best solution at this point in time. Take time off of drugs for a while, and just enjoy being sober. Do things you enjoy (other than drugs). This is what I did after I had my first bad trip, and it really helped me return to my "normal" self.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: vigilant_mind]
    #7895401 - 01/17/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Actually, that was probably one of the more rational statements that has been made in this thread thus far.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: it stars saddam]
    #7895412 - 01/17/08 10:54 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I agree, but the OP seems to want to fight drugs with drugs. If he does decide to go that route I still say MDMA. A full-blown psychedelic wouldn't do much to counteract a negative experience from another psychedelic.

Sobriety and healthy-living are still the best options hands-down, however.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Robo]
    #7895418 - 01/17/08 10:56 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Sobriety and healthy-living are the best options hands-down, however.





Totally true. Yoga and meditation can do an enormous amount of help, even in a very short time. Regardless of what your spiritual beliefs are, these practices can really make you feel better.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7895424 - 01/17/08 10:57 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

EllisDSox said:
Yoga and meditation can do an enormous amount of help, even in a very short time. Regardless of what your spiritual beliefs are, these practices can really make you feel better.




Absolutely. This is important to emphasize when discussing meditation.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Phishe]
    #7895454 - 01/17/08 11:04 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Since your mind is used to normal consciousness, I think it would help a lot to stay away from psychedelics for a while to let it gain normal consciousness again. In my experience the only thing that helps is to become aware of your psychic ability to stand stress and unpleasant things without "freaking out". This process might work unknowingly, but your mind will take notice of it and become self confident again.
Every time I used Psychedelics too much, I started to become a misanthrope and to avoid people not just because I was aware of how fucked up big parts of the world is (at least the people living in it), but also because I didn't know anymore how to handle stressful situations (especially aggressive people).
So I stayed away from these substances for a few months and it turned out that it was the right decision. I became the way I was before again and felt good enough to trip again.
Try to live your life as down-to-earth as possible for one or two months and you should be fine!
DMT would be the very wrong secession in my opinion, since it's so powerful that even the short trip might ruin your self confidence for a long time. It's uncontrollable, since you're in a whole other dimension and therefore you shouldn't try it as long as you're not feeling too well about yourself. Get a grip on your life, THEN you might use DMT and other psychedelics again, to become aware of the ubiquitous beauty of the world. It worked out for me!


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Fahkface]
    #7896886 - 01/18/08 10:30 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

yeah
acid will make you do that


yoou shouda tryed breathing


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7896906 - 01/18/08 10:35 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I had a bad trip on shrooms and posted it on here, it was, in fact, my first post. I loved psychedelics before the bad trip and loved them after, which was really shitty because I feared a bad trip.

Wait awhile, try to understand your fear and you will go into your next trip perfectly fine.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: Moo456]
    #7896932 - 01/18/08 10:41 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

To the original poster:

I actually don't really think that it's too bad of an idea to try and get over "the fear" by dosing again with psychedelics. I wouldn't suggest a high dose, however. Instead, try and test the waters, gently at first, until you feel ready to go to the next step. By sectioning your progress into steps, it allows you to slowly work back into the psychedelic experience, all the while re-programming your brain by using cognitive-behavior therapy. What I mean is each step you take, try and accept the anxiety, all the thoughts, whether bad or good, etc. Acceptance is the key. If you can just accept something, and learn to logically understand and/or disregard the causes of the panic attacks or strange, perhaps scary, thoughts.

After a while, you should start to notice some change in your mind, hopefully good.

Remember, whenever you're tripping, if things start to feel overwhelming, just accept them. Become one with the things that you fear.

Observe, Accept, and Let Go.


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Re: getting over a bad acid trip [Re: MorphMan]
    #7903074 - 01/19/08 07:19 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

thanks alot guys ive learned alot of useful things thanks omni morph and everyone this expirience happened a month ago or so ive only smoked weed since ive decided to wait a little longer before i trip again i just hope i can trip as good again!


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