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figgusfiddus
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WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times.
#7256056 - 08/03/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now, I know not everyone here is into cultivation, but if you are, or if you get your shrooms from someone who is, you may sometime be tempted to trip on aborts--the little mushrooms that stop growing when they're more or less 1/2" long.
I recently, with some companions, took a 2g dose (each) of pure aborts, harvested from a grow that aborted due to humidifier malfunction. The result of the night was intense fear, confusion, vomiting, and for one person, a complete psychotic break, which fortunately came full circle by the next morning after about eight hours of absolute mortal terror. The individual regularly asked questions like, "Who am I?" "Do I have parents?" "Is that a thing?" in complete earnest. The person did not know they were vomiting, pissing themselves, or screaming for help; they regularly asked to be killed, simply to end the confusion; they did not know my face, though we have known one another very well for many years. The only emotional reaction other than terror was an absolutely alien sort of mimicry: When I would answer their question (e.g. "Do I have parents?") I might chuckle a little (even though obviously upset), which would set the person off mimicking facial movements and laughing exaggeratively for three or five seconds before returning to confusion and fear. While they remembered many things from the experience, they did not remember this at all.
From all I know about my favorite drug--though I am humble enough to say that most of what I know is in fact based on educated assumption--the break was not the simple result of a high dose, but it was certainly a result of what turned out to be the individual's unusual brain chemistry and a dose that turned out to be about four times as strong as it seemed by weight.
In other words: If you're going to try dosing pure aborts, feel it out carefully. Don't go over a gram on your first try, or you may be really unpleasantly surprised. The trip I got off slightly less than 2g of aborts was equivalent to 8-10g, easily, and that kind of surprise does not make for a good trip.
Second, if you ever have an experience that resembles a psychotic break, and if this experience becomes more pronounced with each subsequent trip even though your dose isn't changing, you need to stop the drug, or at least take a break and work yourself down to a very, very moderate dose to get a grip on things and gauge your reaction. Some people, even people with no history or symptoms of schizophrenic behavior while sober, may have a certain brain chemistry such that hallucinogens can push them over the edge. Some people don't come back once they go over. My friend did, and I am so thankful for that that I can't express it to you. This doesn't mean I'm going to stop using shrooms, but it means I'm taking a break for a little while, and that I'm going to treat them with the respect and caution they deserve; they are not weed, they are not alcohol. They are "serious business".
Good luck, and happy times.
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RobMarley420
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: figgusfiddus]
#7256146 - 08/03/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, aborts can be potent as hell. I had a 2 gram abort trip that blew my mind but it was nothing like you described.
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MrKite1
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: RobMarley420]
#7256177 - 08/03/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some of my best trips have been on aborts. I love them particularly because of the relative ease in which you can ingest them.
Care should be taken though. I gave a friend 6g of aborts once and despite my warnings he ate them all in a sitting. It was one of his most intense experiences with mushrooms.
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figgusfiddus
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: MrKite1]
#7256207 - 08/03/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree, they do go down easy--at least for me. I didn't even get the queasies that night, and I was tripping within ten to fifteen minutes of downing them despite barely chewing. I remember thinking, "Man, I should use the can before I start tripping, it's impossible to take a crap when you're tripping," and as soon as I'd closed the bathroom door I was completely gone, lost in the floor tiles.
Two of the four of us were throwing up pretty heavily, but I think that had more to do with the intensity of the trip than any actual stomach irritation from the shrooms themselves.
It's funny, though: only one of us (the one who took only part of her 2g, now that I think of it) had a purely good time that night. Everyone else described images of hell; the one who had the break actually said that images of hell were part of the "good" portion of the trip, whereas during the "break" part of the trip there weren't even hallucinations so much as a complete inability to recognize anything and everything.
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Edited by figgusfiddus (08/03/07 04:14 PM)
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Coaster
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: figgusfiddus]
#7257013 - 08/03/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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man fuck those aborts low dose shrooming is always the most fun
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indica


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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: Coaster]
#7257165 - 08/03/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
low dose shrooming is always the most fun
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wind3d
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: Coaster]
#7894165 - 01/17/08 06:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This isn't the reason I am posting, but... I just ate 15 wet grams of aborts FIRST TRIP EVER! The real reason i am posting...is that is the coolest damn signature I have ever seen with the school text book and E Pills. Awesome!
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sandman_130
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: wind3d]
#7894299 - 01/17/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i disagree, high dose tripping is the best ever
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 Maria Sabina
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Coaster
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: sandman_130]
#7894306 - 01/17/08 06:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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sandman_130 said: i disagree, high dose tripping is the best ever
the best ever ya like 10% of the time and like 10% of it is also the worst ever and the other 80% ur going thru an insane coaster flippin around not knowing whats goin on
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sandman_130
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: Coaster]
#7894444 - 01/17/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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well I guess its only for those who have control of their experiences.
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 Maria Sabina
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Brainiac
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: sandman_130]
#7894457 - 01/17/08 07:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So about 1.5 gs dry..
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g00ru
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: sandman_130]
#7894458 - 01/17/08 07:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I just want to have some trippy fun, i take 2g.
If I want a "real" trip, I eat 1/8th.
If I want to have an intense psychedelic experience, I eat 5+ grams.
I would say 60% of my trips are on 1/8th, it's the perfect amount imo. And if you want more, you can always smoke some weeeeed.
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coulterIV
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: g00ru]
#7894461 - 01/17/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what are aborts i want some
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Coaster
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: g00ru]
#7894466 - 01/17/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes weed volcano mostly because its easier to take phat fucking hits i was blazin on acid and it made it seem like i took twice as many hits
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sandman_130
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Re: WATCH YOUR DOSE WITH ABORTS! Lessons from a night of bad times. [Re: coulterIV]
#7894467 - 01/17/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushrooms that pin but dont grow very big at all. I mean really tiny.
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  "There is a world beyond ours, a world that is far away, nearby, and invisible. And there is where God lives, where the dead live, the spirits and the saints, a world where everything has already happened and everything is known. That world talks. It has a language of its own. I report what it says. The sacred mushroom takes me by the hand and brings me to the world where everything is known. It is they, the sacred mushrooms, that speak in a way I can understand." 
 Maria Sabina
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