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InvisibleRappenstein
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    #7893583 - 01/17/08 03:51 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893623 - 01/17/08 03:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

1: aye, sounds bout right.

2: you can store them anywhere between 72º-80º(ime)
they need zero light in incubation.
edit: 85º is to high since myc. makes its own heat
when growing, 2-5º more then what the temp says.

3: sure is, at the FC stage they can hang out,
but you CANT knock up the same jar with 2
different types, because they will "fight"

4: on a 12/12 timer sure, dont let them get to hot thou.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893625 - 01/17/08 03:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

1 yeah..

2 you want the jars to be around 82 degrees i have heard is the best temp.. a little higher or lower cant hurt but somewhere around there.  dont put any light on them.. you want them to be as dark as possible for as long as possible.  dont even check on them if you can help it. :laugh:

3 you can fruit them in the same chamber.. i dont know about stacking them, but that's your call it's your grow. should be ok to do though.

4 yes you will want a little bit of light on your cakes while fruiting.  they say 12 on 12 off is good but i dont even think that much is necessary.. as long as you get a little bit of light you'll be fine..


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: seg_x]
    #7893628 - 01/17/08 03:59 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

FUCK beat me to it! :laugh:


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Invisiblexdaveman
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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893630 - 01/17/08 03:59 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

i believe that recipe is only for 4 half pints.
my calculations are:
16 cups vermiculite
8 cups brown rice flour
8 cups water
thats the closest i could come up to it, but you will have an extra pint of the mix left. its always better to have to much than to little.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893635 - 01/17/08 04:00 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

#1 I'm not completely sure, but it sounds right to me.(considering you used a calculator)

#2 You can store incubating jars anywhere really, just be sure not to fuck with them much if you're using the verm barrier. And try to keep them at a constant temp, somewhere within 5 degrees. (example: 70-75F)

#3 It would be fine, but 30 cakes would require a big fucking fruiting chamber. (I'm not sure about stacking them, to be honest. But it doesn't sound like a good idea to me.)

#4 It's perfectly fine to fruit inside a closet. And the fluorescent lighting would be peachy.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893676 - 01/17/08 04:09 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

if you have wide mouth half pints i would follow fahtster. you can stack cakes on top of each other with no problem but only one on top of another i believe (only two to a stack). check out fahts cake tek its the fourth post in the link. dont worry about the cloning tek your not ready for that yet.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6590986#6590986
good luck!
EDIT: make sure you put a piece of foil or some other barrier between the cakes or the water content will be thrown off the top one.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: xdaveman]
    #7893694 - 01/17/08 04:11 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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xdaveman said:
if you have wide mouth half pints i would follow fahtster. you can stack cakes on top of each other with no problem but only one on top of another i believe (only two to a stack). check out fahts cake tek its the fourth post in the link. dont worry about the cloning tek your not ready for that yet.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6590986#6590986
good luck!




only of the same strain thou
dont stack different strains.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: xdaveman]
    #7893757 - 01/17/08 04:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Wow, thanks guys for the replies..

If I was using half pint jars (which Iam and failed to mention) The recipe would be right I think :smile:

So, it would be okay to stack different strains?  I was going to use fahts stacking technique since Im using half pints. Yeh, Ill have to find a big rubber maid container or something :smile:.

Im going to order syringes from Spores101..everyone think that sounds good?


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893762 - 01/17/08 04:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Ahhh okay, I didnt think it was a good idea to stack different strains! Thanks man.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893766 - 01/17/08 04:22 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

why would you want to stack different strains?

i wouldn't..

i've never dealt with spores 101 but i have had good experiences with both sporeworks and darkspores


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7893793 - 01/17/08 04:26 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I didn't want to..i was just checking to see if you should or shouldn't do it for future reference. Ill probably go with sporeworks then, I've heard lots of good things about them.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: seg_x]
    #7893799 - 01/17/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

#1 - Thats fine could even do half a cc per....but 1cc wouldn't hurt

#2 - Store them at 75-78F any higher 81F+ increases thermophilics which contamn breeds faster then mycelium does...AND....slows growth down anywhere past 81+ Please stop posting 85-86F that was based in the mushroom cultivator off a agar flawed where HEAT ISN'T GENERATED....STFU! and anything down 70 slows growth also...Pros agree, RR agrees, many mycologists agree....so why not take this information in and use it. room temperature is fine AND THAT INCUBATION WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE IN TOTAL DARKNESS NEEDS TO DIE..YOUR JARS WILL BE FINE AT NORMAL LIGHT OFF AND ON AT ANY TIME JUST MAKE SURE THERE AT 75-78F...

#3 - yes it's fine to put diff strains in a FC but make sure you label them so you know which is which...Don't stack them...

#4 - thats fine man


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Rappenstein]
    #7893801 - 01/17/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Rappenstein said:
Im going to order syringes from Spores101..everyone think that sounds good?




I just received a syringe from spores101, looks like they put fucking charcoal inside the syringe (to trick us damn noobs). But they have a lot of positive testimonials from the Shroomtalk forum and here (they used to be a Shroomery sponsor). I guess we'll have to see.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Darkstrand]
    #7893834 - 01/17/08 04:34 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)





I just received a syringe from spores101, looks like they put fucking charcoal inside the syringe (to trick us damn noobs). But they have a lot of positive testimonials from the Shroomtalk forum and here (they used to be a Shroomery sponsor). I guess we'll have to see.





thats just clumped up spores


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: Darkstrand]
    #7893848 - 01/17/08 04:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Said Site is a good one, I started over with them after having a bad exp. with another site. Im happy with my results.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7893858 - 01/17/08 04:38 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)





I just received a syringe from spores101, looks like they put fucking charcoal inside the syringe (to trick us damn noobs). But they have a lot of positive testimonials from the Shroomtalk forum and here (they used to be a Shroomery sponsor). I guess we'll have to see.





thats just clumped up spores




I could be wrong, but it's black-black and it doesn't leave the sides of the syringe when shaken thoroughly.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: seg_x]
    #7894238 - 01/17/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

i dont want to thread jack or start a fight or anything of that nature. but i have to say why would it make a difference if two different strains are stacked? as long as it is not another species it should do just fine in the same enviroment correct? is it not this site that everyone says a cube is a cube?


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: xdaveman]
    #7894315 - 01/17/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

a cube is a cube is more a metaphor then a science.
The reason you dont stack different strains is there
is a real chance they would just fight and not work on fruiting.
which is your goal.


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Re: PF-Tek Project [Re: seg_x]
    #7894368 - 01/17/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

i said to use a barrier of some kind inbetween the cakes. and for the sake of simplicity i could see it, so you dont get strains confused.i believe for the most part since they are the same species they would most likely mate before they would fight each other.


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