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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: Love Cap]
#7897862 - 01/18/08 03:33 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Love Cap said: how does or have anything to do with an intelligent debate? It almost dumbs it down a little don't you think?
It often doesn't and there is no rule that everything said here be serious. But unlike some I try and get there from time to time. And I rarely whine when things don't go my way.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: Love Cap]
#7897870 - 01/18/08 03:35 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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To get this thread back on topic..
Anyone else notice what the first three letters of Buddhism are?
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: WScott]
#7897881 - 01/18/08 03:37 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Is that a valid connection?
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: Love Cap]
#7897892 - 01/18/08 03:39 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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The real translation of 'Enlightened One' is actually Buddhank.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: WScott]
#7897980 - 01/18/08 04:00 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: Icelander]
#7898514 - 01/18/08 06:05 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Came in late on the pain conversation, but I'm not sure I buy the whole attachment is what makes pain bad thing. Sure, if you cut your finger, and then start into a really good book, you might forget about it cause you're not trying to not experience it, but I think that if you've got a broken leg, it's going to hurt like crazy no matter what kind of mindset you have about attachment.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7898535 - 01/18/08 06:09 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yes but you can choose between obsessing over the pain or accepting it while getting along with your life. What was the point you were trying to make here?
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My point is that some pain is so great that you really don't have a choice between accepting it or getting along with your life because it's all encompassing. If you break your leg, if your whole family is killed in front of you, you can say there's an option there, but in reality, there's just such a forceful pain that it doesn't allow you to just accept it.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7898613 - 01/18/08 06:28 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Heh, also I realize those are two very different examples, but I was going for emotional and physical pain.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7898620 - 01/18/08 06:30 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Emotional pain is the one that you can rid, even if it results from psychical pain.
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I guess I don't think that's true. You can get rid of emotional pain for some things, but if somebody spends their whole life in emotional torment after some kind of traumatizing event. It's silly to say they should just accept it and move one, cause presumably if they were able to, they would. I don't think anyone wants to sit around and be miserable their whole life.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7898724 - 01/18/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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First of all you forget of the awareness matter. People can stay in suffering because they didn't realize they can take action. It doesn't mean that that there's no other option for them but to keep suffering.
I am pretty sure that if you take a look at your life, you will recall moments in which you felt bad mostly because you let yourself drawn by that particular emotion. And that all you had to do was to pull yourself out of there, focus on what brought you joy into your life and try to deal with your anxieties. I for sure can remember more than one or two situations like these. The more we remain in a singular state, the more we omit the others. Intention plays a big role in all that, it's the first conscious step that we take when it comes to making changes.
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It's silly to say they should just accept it and move one, cause presumably if they were able to, they would.
How did you reach this conclusion? Some people might be unwilling, others might be unaware of their power to produce a change, but that's something entirely different.
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I don't think anyone wants to sit around and be miserable their whole life.
Really? Some people even find comfort in feeling miserable. Self indulgence abolishes one of personal responsibility and many people DO run away from that.
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Ok, hypothetical situation for you to tell me how they should move on and accept it. A girl lives in an african village with her family, one day, rebels come kill her whole family, destroy her village, and take her along so that they can rape her every day. Now how exactly would she go about accepting the fact that anything in her life that's ever made her happy is either dead or burned to the ground, and her current situation is physically and mentally scarring? I realize that people can accept that their girlfriend dumped them or that their dog died, but there are certain kinds of pain that I don't understand how you can say someone could just accept it.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7899169 - 01/18/08 08:55 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Now we are talking about a case where someone is being forced. However, even in this situation, choice still exists. Even suicide. There's always a choice. Also, depending on the background, of her past experiences, the number of choices could be even bigger. Maybe she learned how to fight, or to kill. You can't judge a situation only by the data you provided because it's more than insufficient. We are such complex beings and even the smallest detail in our lives can change out perspective upon life and the course of our decisions. Judging a situation like that only by what you provided can vary so much from person to person that it would be silly for me to limit myself to only one scenario. What I do know is that, for those who are willing and aware, life is more detailed and expanded.
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Yeah, I'd like to see the response for THAT.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: Love Cap]
#7899444 - 01/18/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Buudhism and marijuana
fuck yeah!!
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7899578 - 01/18/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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tthom580 said: Ok, hypothetical situation for you to tell me how they should move on and accept it. A girl lives in an african village with her family, one day, rebels come kill her whole family, destroy her village, and take her along so that they can rape her every day. Now how exactly would she go about accepting the fact that anything in her life that's ever made her happy is either dead or burned to the ground, and her current situation is physically and mentally scarring? I realize that people can accept that their girlfriend dumped them or that their dog died, but there are certain kinds of pain that I don't understand how you can say someone could just accept it.
i dought she could really accept it while that shit was going on but pherhaps there would be hope after the whole situation
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: tthom580]
#7899581 - 01/18/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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It's about not to get emotionally overwhelmed by the pain so one does stupid things, but to accept the pain as what it is, get a stance and do something about in a conscious rational way.
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7899610 - 01/18/08 10:43 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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yeah havnt you guys seen ghandi (the movie)
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Re: Buudhism and marijuana [Re: skiihigh]
#7899717 - 01/18/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Good movie.
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