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RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome
    #7890556 - 01/16/08 09:50 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)



These are my supplies. I have these new buckets I want to try out but I'm not sure exactly what to use..

I have Rye Flour and WBS..no verm at this moment.. any ideas?!


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: JewelessCaesar]
    #7890595 - 01/16/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Rinse the wbs out in a colander, soak for 24 hours (or bring water to a boil, remove from heat, put wbs in water and let soak for 1-2 hrs). Remove from water, rinse well, strain well, PC for 90 mins @ 15 psi. Inoculate etc...
(I'm sure you already know all this, but the layout just came to me.)
Once your WBS is fully colonized, spawn it to something, maybe manure or coir. Once the bulk has been spawned to, clean out the containers, get some verm and make PF jars with the rye flour.
The timing could work out great, especially if you use LC.


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: Green420Thang]
    #7890659 - 01/16/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

um the flour is useless without vermiculite so its the grain.
You will need to pc the grain and I do not see a container that is suitable for a pressure cooker.
Forget all that soaking bullshit. Put that wbs in a pot and add some water at this seed:water ratio. 2:1
Bring to a boil and reduce heat and let simmer for about 10 mins or until most of the water is gone.
Drain the excess water off and put it in your jars. Pc for 45-60 mins at 15psi.


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: JewelessCaesar]
    #7890682 - 01/16/08 10:09 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

jewless .. lol just put and azz load of wbs in a alcohol sterilized bucket after doing the usual soak and simmer .. a whole bag or 2 with gtg transfer and cover .. it will form a massive cake you can submerge in casing .. im up to this now and fuk me its just fine .. ive givin up on all the rigidness of these teks .. and fuk brf or rf its a fukin pain in the azz .. stay grain .. also .. fuk any grade of verm other than ultra course/large grade verm .. ive found the chunkier grade verm for flour the faster colonization u get .. it all equals out mathmatecally ..but in a speed sense makes all the diff !


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: tahoe]
    #7890702 - 01/16/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

So no WBS/RYE mixture?

And that container is PC ready.

Lid and container made from Polypropylene plastic(#5 in recycling symbol)


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: JewelessCaesar]
    #7890718 - 01/16/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

sure you could mix them but the point of grain ie rye, wbs, millet is that you can shake it to dispurse the kernels and increase colonization times


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: JewelessCaesar]
    #7890754 - 01/16/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

i dont see ne benefit of mixing flour base and grains at all .. maybe a blended down fully colonized cake in some grain for ultra fast colonization .. but the 2 together dont seem beneficial as a starting sub .. worse than normal even .. if you have any colonized brf / rf material .. no matter the % if u can bust it down into a large container with more of the same sterilized sub and airier density u will see crazy colonization .. jars are useless and slow im coming to realize .. the bigger the infection of mycelium the faster it moves .. for that you need space .. im going to do a pictoral in a few days .. ull see !


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: tahoe]
    #7890760 - 01/16/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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sure you could mix them but the point of grain ie rye, wbs, millet is that you can shake it to dispurse the kernels and increase colonization times




Ah, now I see the light, thanks for the clarification!

WBS it is, I will keep you all updated on how this goes.


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: JewelessCaesar]
    #7890771 - 01/16/08 10:23 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

btw im making a 5 gallon cake lmmfao wait till you see that mfer hahahaha


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: tahoe]
    #7891122 - 01/16/08 11:38 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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sure you could mix them but the point of grain ie rye, wbs, millet is that you can shake it to dispurse the kernels and increase colonization times




unless one that grows/grew brf is looking to increase potency with a paticular strain without spawning to a bulk substrate.


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Re: RYE Flour/WBS and new substrate containers, ideas welcome [Re: zyxwvutsr]
    #7891215 - 01/17/08 12:00 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

5 gallon cake = disaster.


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