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tahoe
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Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys 1
#7889271 - 01/16/08 05:32 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Everyday I see a post about their cakes not pinning. Then a bunch of wise guys who know nothing about cultivation ask a bunch of stupid question like they have the slightest idea of what triggers pinning. The 100% rh that your stupid little rh meter says is not what induces pinning. You need high humidity at the surface of the cake or casing. A dry casing layer will hold the high humidity away from the surface. This is why direct misting is important. IN nature it rains, where cubes are native it downpours. Heavy 2 inch an hour type rain. The direct misting will not damage pins. Plus you guys have no idea how wet a casing layer needs to be when you mix it up. Check this out. This is taking direct misting a little far just to prove a point.
Species is not important here. I bet there will be plenty of pins in a few days

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Edited by tahoe (12/29/21 11:33 PM)
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7889282 - 01/16/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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HAHA 5 Mushrooms for you
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7889287 - 01/16/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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caaaaaaalm down buddy. I await your results
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: donpatch]
#7889306 - 01/16/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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I can only imagine how he feels. I have learned to ignore these posts as I already know it's okay to give plenty of water. Along with many other newb questions that I see posted daily. Do we really need a flashing banner saying USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION before you start posting questions.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DontPlay]
#7889314 - 01/16/08 05:40 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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dude..... THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.. LOL
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DontPlay]
#7889328 - 01/16/08 05:42 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Ive always dumped about half a shot glass water ontop of my cakes daily anyways.
edit: when i say half a shot glass, i mean for each cake (pint cakes).
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Edited by seg_x (01/16/08 05:56 PM)
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: seg_x]
#7889346 - 01/16/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Whoa Tahoe, obviously this is directed towards my last post... You didn't wait for me to explain why I wanted the guy to not directly mist... Since he rolled the cake in verm it would defeat the purpose by washing off the verm... He already has pins - that's all I was getting at... Regardless, I've learned a lot from you, and it seems if you're mad you speak up, so fuck you
Edited by verminute (01/16/08 05:48 PM)
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: seg_x]
#7889348 - 01/16/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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seg_x said: Ive always dumped about half a shot glass water ontop of my cakes daily anyways.
and this works pretty good for you?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: bmiles]
#7889362 - 01/16/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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I've found dumping aound 10 shot glasses of tequila in my stomach gets me laid, so 1 shot glass of water could only do the same... in a mushroom world ;D
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7889387 - 01/16/08 05:54 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7744631/an/0/page/0
look at the later section of my recent grow. even after 100% humidity, misting twice daily and dumping a shot glass into the "verm rez" on top of the cake ( there is a little dip made into the top of the cake, shaped by the bottom of the jar ) even after that the cakes were bone dry after harvest.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7889402 - 01/16/08 05:57 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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goddam.. just grow some fucking mushies, and let the children do what they want... this is crazy.. haha.. on DSMtuners or HondaTech you would get banned... but not here.. I love it...
but for real... there are hella different ways to get moisture back in to the realm of fungi.. misting the shit out of them works fucking good for my casings.. I have never dunked.. Im interested to try, though..
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7889407 - 01/16/08 05:59 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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I just dunked two of my casings last night.. put them back into the fc today... Im going to leave 1 casing without dunking and heaving misting and see how it goes.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7889409 - 01/16/08 05:59 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD said:
but for real... there are hella different ways to get moisture back in to the realm of fungi.. misting the shit out of them works fucking good for my casings.. I have never dunked.. Im interested to try, though..
Please tell us the other ways. Btw, are you russian or asian?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7889413 - 01/16/08 06:00 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD said: goddam.. just grow some fucking mushies, and let the children do what they want...
A child runs the USA, and look where it's going... We need the input! ;D
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7889422 - 01/16/08 06:02 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Hondatech, Yosha, I assume AZN...
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: donpatch]
#7889442 - 01/16/08 06:06 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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donpatch said: I just dunked two of my casings last night.. put them back into the fc today... Im going to leave 1 casing without dunking and heaving misting and see how it goes.
Please please report you findings.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7889445 - 01/16/08 06:06 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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whats this AZN nonsense?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: donpatch]
#7889452 - 01/16/08 06:09 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Spell it out...
a...z...n
Asian 
My brother's wife is japanese, I think it's more of a internet honda tuner type thing.
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blood4blood
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: donpatch]
#7889469 - 01/16/08 06:12 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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i love tahoe!
btw, whats a casing layer?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: seg_x]
#7889477 - 01/16/08 06:15 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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seg_x said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7744631/an/0/page/0
look at the later section of my recent grow. even after 100% humidity, misting twice daily and dumping a shot glass into the "verm rez" on top of the cake ( there is a little dip made into the top of the cake, shaped by the bottom of the jar ) even after that the cakes were bone dry after harvest.
damn what a nice grow... i'm waiting on my first signs of mycelium and this is day four with b+. mushroom growing does teach patience.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: bmiles]
#7889579 - 01/16/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Vermiculite...Misting will not wash off the vermiculite coating, mist about a foot above them with a fine mist sprayer. It will only help them in the long run. Mushies need water ! More water = bigger happier mushies. They will be dry after a flush, If you do not dunk do not expect to much success.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: bmiles]
#7889613 - 01/16/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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hahaha.. im neither... Im just a whiteboy honda enthusiast with a 12 second hatchback... DJ Yosha BYD... Im a house DJ and musician.. I wgo by Yosha.. Im in a dance crew called BYD.. Beyond Your Dreams... we used to go to "raves" (godamm I hate that word..) and battle and whatnot..
and why would you automatically think I was Asian? Stereotypes dont help anyone grow shrooms any faster... lol
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DontPlay]
#7889618 - 01/16/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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almost all mushroom weight is from water, correct?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: bmiles]
#7889630 - 01/16/08 06:43 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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bmiles said: almost all mushroom weight is from water, correct?
90% mang.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7889845 - 01/16/08 07:27 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD said: and why would you automatically think I was Asian? Stereotypes dont help anyone grow shrooms any faster... lol
Hahaha, that had me cracking up...
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: blood4blood]
#7889849 - 01/16/08 07:29 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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blood4blood said:
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bmiles said: almost all mushroom weight is from water, correct?
90% mang.
What are humans, like 70%... ?
DontPlay - I understand... I now think I should've said in MY experience...
Edited by verminute (01/16/08 07:29 PM)
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7892425 - 01/17/08 10:41 AM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD said: goddam.. just grow some fucking mushies, and let the children do what they want... this is crazy.. haha.. on DSMtuners or HondaTech you would get banned... but not here.. I love it...
Holy crap, another DSMtuner?
I agree with Tahoe, as long as you have adequate FAE, direct misting IS GOOD, NOT HARMFUL.
If you have shit FAE, you WILL drown your pins though. Either way, you'd have crappy results from lack of FAE.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Sillicybin]
#7892787 - 01/17/08 12:18 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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You know what I found that helps, stick your junk in the FC, show the muchies who's boss...
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7892819 - 01/17/08 12:27 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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it will encourage the pe strain to grow bigger
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: bmiles]
#7892827 - 01/17/08 12:30 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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i wonder why they would be scared to water their shrooms.... since they are 90 % water....
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7892829 - 01/17/08 12:30 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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Hehehehe...
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7892834 - 01/17/08 12:32 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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verminute said: You know what I found that helps, stick your junk in the FC, show the muchies who's boss...
hahaha thats great....
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Cubie]
#7892836 - 01/17/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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Cubie said: i wonder why they would be scared to water their shrooms.... since they are 90 % water....
I believe most of the fear is behind the theory that aborts come from direct water on stem or cap, also people seem to assume ALL mushies grow in the same type of environments.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7892882 - 01/17/08 12:43 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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I doupt direct water plays a huge part in aborhts. There will always be aborths. It is more genetic than anything.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7892895 - 01/17/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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tahoe said: I doupt direct water plays a huge part in aborhts. There will always be aborths. It is more genetic than anything.
if it did would there be mushies today? im sure rain would have wiped out mushrooms a loong long time ago
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Cubie]
#7892901 - 01/17/08 12:46 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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how the fuck are you posting 55 times a day?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: blood4blood]
#7892908 - 01/17/08 12:47 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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i have shit to say
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7892913 - 01/17/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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 Directly misted 3 times daily ONCE right before this picture was taken 2 minutes ago. note the water dripping down the FC walls. Ive also noticed how well double stacked cakes grow
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: P.Menace]
#7892922 - 01/17/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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 Directly misted 3 times daily ONCE right before this picture was taken 2 minutes ago. note the water dripping down the FC walls. Ive also noticed how well double stacked cakes grow
lol the mushrooms cars are kool. the only question. how do they all fit into the 3 cars?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: P.Menace]
#7892933 - 01/17/08 12:52 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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P.Menace said:
 Directly misted 3 times daily ONCE right before this picture was taken 2 minutes ago. note the water dripping down the FC walls. Ive also noticed how well double stacked cakes grow
i like you cars im thinking of putting a bunch of smurfs in my fruiting chamber once i get some pins going
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: P.Menace]
#7892936 - 01/17/08 12:53 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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update. More water. I see something that the camera cant see yet. It is completely under water. Under tap water in a sink that was cleaned out a few days ago but has a few tooth brushing sessions in it
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7892943 - 01/17/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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pinning?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Cubie]
#7892957 - 01/17/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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I doupt direct water plays a huge part in aborhts. There will always be aborths. It is more genetic than anything.
Yes of course, however, results, or guesstimating from members here have sometimes found direct misting "appear" to cause an abort... As stated, it's just an observation...
Edited by verminute (01/17/08 12:59 PM)
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7892978 - 01/17/08 01:02 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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tahoe said: update. More water. I see something that the camera cant see yet. It is completely under water. Under tap water in a sink that was cleaned out a few days ago but has a few tooth brushing sessions in it
Hey tahoe, will you be a doll and describe this tek or substrate to us!?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7893093 - 01/17/08 01:33 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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its the "jars do not float" tech
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7893169 - 01/17/08 01:55 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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Bwahahahaha... gotca...
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7893249 - 01/17/08 02:19 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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Do you REALLY think that thing is going to pin?If you are not BS. If this is possible, then why waste the money on the porlite?? Just through the damn thing in a bucket of water and watch it grow. cha cha cha chea
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tonyshroom]
#7893262 - 01/17/08 02:25 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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btw, here is the grow chamber. Its just getting misted 1-2 times a day
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
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ok umm I must have missed something. I thought it was staying under water. So you can prove it would pin being completely socked. my bad
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7893297 - 01/17/08 02:38 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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assuming your junks cleans, ewww
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: seg_x]
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hahaha, a few crabs here and there, but not bad...
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Blutjager]
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if you drink enough water, you'll abort too. lol mushies can grow in drenched rain pour because they are out in constant fresh air and the water drains through the soil and doesn't stay in direct contact with the myc getting stagnant. Like someone already said, you can directly mist but you need to up the FAE.. over hydrated fruits/myc will grow badly just like under-hydrated fruits.. i.e., too fast which reduces weight.. thinly and hollow which also reduces weight.. everyone just needs to learn how the strain they are working with develops through it's cycle and tune it in.. not every strain grows the same way.. theres no real way to say, "hey, this is how it's done exactly for all strains." Everything is just a base to create your own grow methods off of. Healthy mycelium needs to cycle all water, nutes, and gases in an even flow to get the best healthy fruits. 
in example: heres a GT bin.. it looks like it was bangin right? wrong.. I got only about 2.3 oz's off of it whereas I normally get about 4.5 to 5 oz's.. the fruits were paper thin..

the problem was that the cakes were over hydrated.. you can tell by how small the fruits are.. granted it is a GT strain but still.. see how thin the stems are? and the caps are opening very slowly.. not to mention what you see is really only the top layer of cakes fruiting.. there is 23 cakes in there.. I over saturated the cakes and in time some water made it's way down to the bottom layer of cakes; making them produce poorly..
heres the same cakes (minus a few due to trich because of the over hydration) on the second flush.. they all did much better because I didn't dunk them for very long.. maybe a few hours.. these were still a bit too wet, but they definitely did better..

see how the fruits look healthier and the caps are opening up? 
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: fahtster]
#7896919 - 01/18/08 10:38 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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so its been a few days since I started soaking the hell out of the casing. Check this out. I wonder if the moisture has something to do with this.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: P.Menace]
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 Directly misted 3 times daily ONCE right before this picture was taken 2 minutes ago. note the water dripping down the FC walls. Ive also noticed how well double stacked cakes grow
Misting in and of itself does not cause aborts. We've known that for a long time. Misting and then keeping in a totally sealed container will cause aborts. As fahtster said above, direct rain is fine because they're also surrounded by fresh air, being outdoors.
However, I'd give a bit more air exchange to those. The long stems and small caps are an indicator of not enough fresh air. RR
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: RogerRabbit]
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P.Menace said:
 Directly misted 3 times daily ONCE right before this picture was taken 2 minutes ago. note the water dripping down the FC walls. Ive also noticed how well double stacked cakes grow
Misting in and of itself does not cause aborts. We've known that for a long time. Misting and then keeping in a totally sealed container will cause aborts. As fahtster said above, direct rain is fine because they're also surrounded by fresh air, being outdoors.
However, I'd give a bit more air exchange to those. The long stems and small caps are an indicator of not enough fresh air. RR
I agree but that picture is 3 days from harvest here is another pic from today and about to harvest
 the one in the lower right corner is as tall as TWO 1/2 pint cakes and the cap is like 2.5 inches in diameter and still not fully opened, and the stem is about 1 inch thick
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#7905707 - 01/20/08 01:00 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7905725 - 01/20/08 01:04 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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i knew you could do it buddy
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
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Good god! That's beautiful, keep the pictures coming bro!
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7907687 - 01/20/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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uh they are just uh portabellas, yeah uh. You have seen them in the store. No more pics from me
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
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tahoe said: uh they are just uh portabellas, yeah uh. You have seen them in the store. No more pics from me
Eskeereed? 2+2=4
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7908124 - 01/21/08 01:01 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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wait... this means i get direct mist my cakes right?!!? 
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7908233 - 01/21/08 01:57 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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MMMM... Carl's jr. portabella psilo-shroom burger for only 5 Bucks!
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
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hahahahha
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Echo7]
#7908825 - 01/21/08 09:15 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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I'm kind of late to the draw on this post, but regardless. I find misting to be the most aggravating thing to master about this hobby. Balancing FAE and misting is something that still trips me up after a year in.
I find the forums are ripe with conflicting information on this topic. It just seems to be in the last few years that the emphasis has been on getting FAE in check and misting isn't a problem.
I think some of the confusion stems from everyone being pointed to the pinning strategy, which says to stop misting after primordia form. This assumes a very high humidity environment where the casing doesn't require being replenished with water. Which leads to more convolution when you read folks comments about casings only needing 85% RH 
I guess the best bet to understanding and providing the best climate for your little guys defiantly comes down to studying where your strain or species comes from.
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concerning FAE and RH [Re: theratatat]
#7909134 - 01/21/08 11:00 AM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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look no perlite, no rh gauge, no fans, no heaters. Just room temp with a 1-2 daily misting. okay, really no more pics

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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: tahoe]
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Tahoe,
Just a thank you from a NOOB!!! First, I am not familiar with the search features here as I am so new to this site & as I don't know what to ask to find what I am looking for (no banner needed, just a little patience). Second, THIS IS what I was trying to find info on! I read all the info & watched vids on youtube & pretty much all of them said NOT to direct spray your cakes! But wait I am supposed to dunk these things before casing in water! WTF!!!
If Verminute wouldn't have said that it was to keep from washing off the vermiculite or other casing I'd be asking why all the other info says the opposite & still be biting my nails & pulling out my hair.
I make my own spore prints, syringes, clones & currently use G2G method. I am looking into at getting into liquid colonization next. As for direct misting, I soak everything down three or four times daily. I think That I am getting the hang of all this. I am just into my third month & just starting new experimental tries at colonization.
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: tahoe]
#7909637 - 01/21/08 01:30 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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well, thats a nice wbs substrate, but those pictures don't really surprise me.. thats a huge container for one small wbs substrate... there is massive amounts of fresh air available to it...
the small wbs substrate isn't actually, in any end result, getting all that water as most of it is evaporating off into the surround fresh air.
do that with a tub full of wbs or bulk sub with no fan and see what happens. lol
I'm sure the direct misting would work well on a larger grow, but you would need to dial in the FAE to balance the rh of the air you are introducing, time schedule of when you mist, and how much you mist.
pooling water in a tub full of fungus without proper air exchange is bound to get infected with bacteria.
It looks like it's going to be an awesome chunk of grain... thing is still pinning. 
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: fahtster]
#7909652 - 01/21/08 01:34 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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It looks like it's going to be an awesome cake... thing is still pinning. 
fahtster
Its not a cake. It is cased birdseed. Cased with miracle grow potting soil
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: tahoe]
#7909767 - 01/21/08 02:05 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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right on, my bad.
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: fahtster]
#7909833 - 01/21/08 02:16 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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fahster did you direct mist your PE?
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: bmiles]
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I have noticed that direct misting goes along with strain. I.E. some strains dont like it and it bruises the mushroom deep blue. Penis envy, Palenque and Blue Meanies IME. But other strains seem to thrive with it like Treasure Coast and Ban Hua Thanon Knowing Where the strain originated from and its climate can help to determine whether or not the strain will NEED or HANDLE being directly misted. Know your climate and Produce it!
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: P.Menace]
#7909917 - 01/21/08 02:34 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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do you know about b+ and ecuador? btw how is your shroom castle?
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Re: concerning FAE and RH [Re: bmiles]
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updating it today check it out in a bit
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
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Can I get a picture of your wife in the nude then?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7912573 - 01/21/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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i like her butts.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: bmiles]
#7914926 - 01/22/08 02:32 PM (16 years, 10 days ago) |
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Thanks Tahoe! Hahaha, that made my day!
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
#7919542 - 01/23/08 11:50 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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The point of this post was mainly to show how wet you can get the casings/cakes without worry. These are showing signs of high co2 but this has nothing to do with the direct soaking. Most of you folk would be happy to have the same results that I had even though the fae was not optimal. So this is the last and final pic of this tech. I will be deleting all the pics later today. These portabellas have really taken off and got tall from the co2. I also pulled the cap of of one of them 2 days ago to show that it will still grow without a cap.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
#7919558 - 01/23/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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that's great man.
there are alot of new people on here that would die for a pinset like that on their cakes.
i guess this thread answers everybodys question on why their cakes arent pinning.
if their getting enough FAE, and i light source and they're still not pinning. THEY NEED MORE WATER!
btw, that's not really your wife is it?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: tahoe]
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I was actually gonna ask a simular question since you mentioned the stem grew without the cap... I've noticed a mushie will not grow the second it's picked... I would assume with all the water content it would break more of the vail or something, but nope. Just stops completely. With this said the growth inducing, well, whatever you call it is directly associated with the mycelium or "root"...?
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: blood4blood]
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If that was his wife I don't think we would even see him online!
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: verminute]
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The mushroom sort of grew more but its dying. It might have just been the energy that was left in it. Mushrooms sort of grow after picked if the humidity is high enough. They do not get heavier but the caps will mature and open. it isnt my wife/gf but she has a smoking ass. It is a guy that I ride dirt bikes with wife. She is sort of hot but she has dumbo ears. He doesnt come here and he would never see that I have these pics.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: seg_x]
#7919919 - 01/23/08 01:38 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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i have picked shrooms in 5" puddles after a hurricane and even had some completely submerged when picked.
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Re: Direct Misting!!!! I have had it up to here with you guys [Re: Swan Song]
#7919988 - 01/23/08 02:01 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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yea i get pins when i dunk for too long. its wierd.
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