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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Rose]
    #7888762 - 01/16/08 03:48 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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Cervantes said:
With that in mind... I have no clue what you are trying to say Tren.




I can't defend what I'm saying very easily when you have no clue what it is :wink:


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: trendal]
    #7888787 - 01/16/08 03:52 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Yes.

But I'd wager there ARE words in the English language that would express your thoughts more clearly than the words you have chosen to use.

You say you lack better words.

I say you could look for some.

It'd help us all.

:shrug:


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Rose]
    #7888804 - 01/16/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

It'd help us all.

You seem to be in the minority with respect to not understanding me. A few people certainly understood what I was talking about.


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: trendal]
    #7888989 - 01/16/08 04:32 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

me, you, I, this, that and whatever


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: krin]
    #7889085 - 01/16/08 04:53 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

And wherever!!


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: trendal]
    #7889302 - 01/16/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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trendal said:
You seem to be in the minority with respect to not understanding me. A few people certainly understood what I was talking about.




And several others have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me show you why I am SO confused... along with OC... Icelander... etc.

Here's your first post.

Quote:

trendal said:
We only are "we" because of this individuality thing, this separateness that we have to endure. I, that is the part of "me" that isn't me, am the same person/thing/super-mind as the one behind "you" (or the part of "you" that isn't you).





OK...

We are, "We" because of individuality
Please clarify. I am confused. Surely I am not the only one in here confused by THAT little jem.

"I" is the part of me that isn't me
I have no clue what you are saying there. I thoight, "I" was the part of me that IS me. Surely I am not alone. Could you clarify this thought, please?

Actually, could you clarify that WHOLE sentence. I am not being rude when I say I have no idea what you meant by: "I, that is the part of "me" that isn't me, am the same person/thing/super-mind as the one behind "you" (or the part of "you" that isn't you)"

I am honestly confused.

I read what you wrote SEVERAL TIMES.

I HAVE tried to understand what you are saying... and when I voiced my confusion, you brushed me off... but LOOK AT YOUR OWN WORDS and tell me there WASN'T a CLEARER way to say what you were TRYING TO SAY!

For Pete's sake, I wouldn't have asked you to CLARIFY your thought, if I weren't interested in discussing it with YOU!

Please, Tren, don't pretend that I am in the minority here. THAT was a confusing-ass post. I mean no offense. It just was. I KNOW you can do better than THAT. You've done so MANY times in the past.

If I can CLEARLY explain to you why your post is SO confusing... can't you do the courteous thing, and explain yourself... instead of giving me another snarky remark?

I would really appreciate it.

We BOTH agree. I have NO idea what you are talking about. THAT is a FACT.


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Rose]
    #7889389 - 01/16/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

You're arguing with yourselves!

I get a kick out of that. :smile:


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: adrug]
    #7889401 - 01/16/08 05:57 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Us are very confusing to I/we/you. :smile:


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Rose]
    #7889622 - 01/16/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

for once, i'm the one ~~~>  :popcorn:


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Love Cap]
    #7889657 - 01/16/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Nice isn't it? :tongue:


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Rose]
    #7890459 - 01/16/08 09:30 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Man, I was feeling sassy at work today.

Maybe we're talking about the problem of the one and the many? Something that makes humans humans but still allows me to be me and you to be you?
Or maybe the different versions that exist of ourselves? The internet version that makes wise ass remarks without a thought, the interpersonal version who avoids confrontation and subsumes it into generalized misanthropy, or the internalized chimpanzee who, once wound up, will waddle along and slam his cymbals together until his spring runs out.

Mmm. I found some good weed tonight.


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: crumblebum]
    #7890565 - 01/16/08 09:51 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

And tonight... I'm dry. There's our problem.


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Re: Separateness and individuality [Re: Rose]
    #7890574 - 01/16/08 09:54 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
And tonight... I'm dry. There's our problem.




Sad state of affairs. If I could psychically send my buzz, the world would be in epic peril. But if I could smoke with you, I'd do that too.


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