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DMT or MAOI
    #7888000 - 01/16/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

what is the difference between DMT and an MAOI cuz i have a friend
who says that they are almost the same thing but i dont think they are
what are the differences between the two? and which would you recommend taking?


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: psychodelicmonk]
    #7888019 - 01/16/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Dude I've never said this to anybody but UTFSE...


DMT is from Psychotria and alot of other plants...

MAOIs come from B. caapi, syrian rue and other plants...


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7888081 - 01/16/08 12:37 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

what is better to take? or more fun to take?


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: psychodelicmonk]
    #7888133 - 01/16/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

You dont take MAOI's for recreation. You use an MAOI with DMT if you are going to take it orally. DMT is not orally active unless you take this.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: psychodelicmonk]
    #7888137 - 01/16/08 12:52 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

dude.

Stop being a Teotz':smirk:


Since you refuse to use google here we go-

DMT comes from lots of plants, it occurs in the human  brain, you can smoke it, but cannot ingest it orally in it's pure state. It is probably the most powerful hallucinogen PERIOD.

Some plant MAOIs include B. caapi and Syrian rue, these are almost useless by themselves, but one amazing thing they do is allow DMT to be active orally. Ayahuasca is a combination of psychotria (DMT) or Diplopterys (DMT and 5-MeO-DMT) and B. Caapi(MAOI).


Now UTFSE jackass.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7888142 - 01/16/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Teotz that guy was a dick head ass fuck peice of shit idoit. if i ever found that guy i would throw a monkey wrench at him:ooo:

yeah huge differance but Caapi and rue when taken alot do have their own effects but theres a big differance


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7888157 - 01/16/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

alright then sorry ill use the search engine next time
thanks though for the info


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: psychodelicmonk]
    #7888167 - 01/16/08 12:59 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

You can also use MAOIs to potentate mushrooms :smile:


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #7888219 - 01/16/08 01:16 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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alright then sorry ill use the search engine next time
thanks though for the info





It's ok.

People don't mind answering some questions if you know alittle about the subject, and you've done some research on your own.

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You can also use MAOIs to potentate mushrooms





Yup, other things too...

But there are also things you should never mix MAOIs with!

Please look into this before taking any...


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: Robo]
    #7888325 - 01/16/08 01:48 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

I think people do take certain MAOIS for recreation. Namely any one used in Aya has psychoactive effects on their own.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7888430 - 01/16/08 02:29 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

>I think people do take certain MAOIS for recreation. Namely any one used in Aya has psychoactive effects on their own.

I always thought Ayahuasca was just B. Caapi, and everything else was yage. :smirk:  Well, except pharmahausca*.  The vine is the soul.  Also the vine has a substance that is not found within Rue.  And Rue has something that should not be mixed with 5-MEO-DMT.


*DMT and powder extracted MAOIs such as harmaline can be taken in gel-caps which is known as pharmahuasca, highly suggested. :grin:


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: schmutzen]
    #7888445 - 01/16/08 02:33 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

why do you say no rue and 5-meo i did it as pharm huasca and with chaliponga and virola its intense.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7888602 - 01/16/08 03:15 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

One of the alkaloids in Rue tends to make a certain number of people either black-out or have way too intense of trips that are beyond most experienced user's ability to deal, often describing a very 'toxic' feeling.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7888612 - 01/16/08 03:17 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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DeathCompany said:
I think people do take certain MAOIS for recreation. Namely any one used in Aya has psychoactive effects on their own.



Come to think of it, MAOI's do tend to increase levels of serotonin and dopamine in the brain. So maybe it does have some recreational/pleasurable value.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: Robo]
    #7888636 - 01/16/08 03:23 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

:rolleyes:


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Edited by awesomebastard (01/16/08 03:25 PM)


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7888806 - 01/16/08 03:57 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

how bout 5-meo is already way strong maoi with it is of course gona be way strong by default


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7888849 - 01/16/08 04:05 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

pure Harmaline "maoi" freebase can be smoked by itself. the effects are... It comes on in 10 minutes after smoking it
you can turn your head and the whole world becomes trails. if you pass your hand in front of your eyes you dont get the same trails as if you turn your head. when you walk around you feel bouncy kinda. if you just sit and stare you see flowing movement in places of high detail such as a stone driveway or something. it feels really cool and last a full hour straight.
a tea of any maoi can also be a trip in itself if done in the right dosage. but I would keep a tyramine free diet 6 hours before and 6 hours after to avoid a hypertension crisis and possibly death


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7888873 - 01/16/08 04:10 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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Sra_sephiroth0 said:
how bout 5-meo is already way strong maoi with it is of course gona be way strong by default



sorry buddy 5-meo is not an maoi prefix it stands for 5-methoxy and they are not the same thing.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: cpw1971]
    #7888879 - 01/16/08 04:11 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

low tyramine (sp?) for a day i would say. better safe then sorry


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: origami.octopus]
    #7889237 - 01/16/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

the longer the better actually
shamans stay away for weeks to years or something I forgot.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: cpw1971]
    #7889258 - 01/16/08 05:28 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

yep, rue by itself can be quite enjoyable.


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Re: DMT or MAOI [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7890618 - 01/16/08 10:00 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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awesomebastard said:
Quote:

Sra_sephiroth0 said:
how bout 5-meo is already way strong maoi with it is of course gona be way strong by default



sorry buddy 5-meo is not an maoi prefix it stands for 5-methoxy and they are not the same thing.




ill re phrase that how bout 5-meo is already way strong, an maoi with it(5-meo-dmt) is of course gona be way strong by default


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