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 richismalls
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 First time compost disaster. 
#7887666 - 01/16/08 11:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I went to a feed store and bought some compost that was labeled as "mushroom compost". sweet. i pasteurize the compost in a new pillow case inside a large pot at 170 degrees for 2 hours. i take it out after about 2 hours and let it cool down and dry to a "field consistency". after that i mixed with a ratio of 1:3 (substrate to compost) and make it about 2 inches deep in a loaf pan. i then covered the loaf pans with aluminum foil and poked some holes in it. after that i le it sit in my incubator and didn't look at it for two weeks. when i took a look at it i was fucked. i made like 25 "loafs" and 5 survived. some got hit so bad whatever mold ate my mycelium also went through ITS entire life cycle and sometimes i just found compost that you can tell had something living on it at some point in time. I'm very good about following instructions and gathering lots of info before i try something, and I'm clean as all hell. what the funk? I've mastered caked and I'm ready to move on
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 shaggydogman
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 Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887680 - 01/16/08 11:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Was that spent mushroom compost? A byproduct of commercial mushroom growing. As in compost that has already had mushrooms eat it all up for breakfast lunch and dinner?
If so it's pretty much no good to grow mushrooms on.
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Edited by shaggydogman (01/16/08 11:47 AM)
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887681 - 01/16/08 11:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think yr temp might have been too high for pasteurization.
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richismalls
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: laten]
#7887700 - 01/16/08 11:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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ill have to look at the bag or ask the guy at the store. he seemed to have a good knowledge of what he was selling me. well i still have 5 loafs that are fruiting as we speak. but it seems to always have green mold growing from underneath it. when i was pasturizing it i kept submerging the candy thermometer as far as i could get it to make sure it wasnt MUCH hotter than the water towards the top. i never broke 180
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887706 - 01/16/08 11:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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my first thought was that i made my mix too deep and it needed to be thinner. so that there would be more air exchange and it would be less to colonize so it would be done faster.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887720 - 01/16/08 12:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anything at a dept store labeled 'Mushroom Compost' is spent mushroom compost and not viable for growing mushrooms. Whoever you spoke to at the store knew less than you do. And I find it hard to believe that you are good at getting info and following instructions whereas there are a million posts on here stating that store bought mushroom compost is spent compost. Better luck next time
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richismalls
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: azurescens]
#7887739 - 01/16/08 12:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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its not from a department store. and its not spent compost either. why would they sell you compost thats already had the nutrients sucked out of it when it cleaims to be nutrient rich. dont you think i would find evidence that its beed used before..and as for you thinking that im not good at getting info.. i think you are kind of a dick and adding that comment to my post completely doesnt help me at all..but thanks for that..
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887918 - 01/16/08 01:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is great for plants.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887924 - 01/16/08 01:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess it wasn't an overly positive thing to say but I was just referencing your statement. ANyway, it is n nutrient rich for plants and or vegetables. Aside from the vendors on this board, I have never seen any type of product in any of the big or small stores that is compost for gr for growing mushrooms.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7887997 - 01/16/08 02:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah man they don't sell proper compost for growing mushrooms at a feed store, or at least at most feed stores. If they did sell great compost there, the news would be all over the shroomery and that's where people would buy their poo and we wouldn't have nearly as many people who SHIP poo (expensive to ship!). Unfortunately what you have is GREAT for plants; they get their energy elsewhere and don't consume the compost. I'd suggest you make an order with one of the poo or poo compost vendors we have here, and make some more cakes, or even better learn to do grains as spawn, while the poo is being processed/shipped.
Edited by heed (01/16/08 05:03 PM)
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: heed]
#7888078 - 01/16/08 02:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks for the help..yeah i checked out that high mountain compost and its quite costly
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7888113 - 01/16/08 02:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Use the 25% discount shroomery members get (off of purchase not shipping), and trust me, it's WORTH it.
Or, research on here how to find and prepare poo yourself, OR, go find some good coir and learn bulk with something cheaper than the HMC compost.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7888122 - 01/16/08 02:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I live right next to a Monterey mushroom plant. I am getting their unused compost to use as bulk. They compost every odd day of the month. I hope mine turns out good.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: Samurai_Jim]
#7888228 - 01/16/08 03:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice. Get it cheap? I'd love to see your results. If it's cheap and good, it may be worthwhile to make an effort to find a similar source.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: heed]
#7888255 - 01/16/08 03:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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still 25% off is sweet. yeah when i went to Sid's they had all different types of compost. i was talking to him about my needs with perlite and such(they have 50lb bags) and he says, " so are you growing mushrooms"? i told him i was, then he told me that this is what i needed..its $7 a bag and says mushroom compost directly on it. i was like well fuck this must be it lol.
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7888344 - 01/16/08 03:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If only it was easy as picking up 'mushroom compost' at home depot.
Dude, high mountain is the shiznit!
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: Crasher]
#7888619 - 01/16/08 05:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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this place i go to is more or less a shipping and recieving yard with a cash register. im gonna have to try some high mountain
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7888802 - 01/16/08 05:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you check he center of your shit ball to see if it was 160 to 170. I found my bags take 4 to 6 hours to reach 165. Have not lost one since monitoring the center temp.
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richismalls
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: thedoc8]
#7888922 - 01/16/08 06:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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nope all i did was make sure the entire thing was saturated with water....hmmm good lookin
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Re: First time compost disaster. [Re: richismalls]
#7888996 - 01/16/08 06:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude screw compost toooo expensive buy a bag of chopped straw at stiens garden supply or any other garden store you can get a whole bale for under 10 dollars buy some coco coir which any pet store sells for 3bricks for under 10 dollars and do a fifty fifty mix. Guarantee you will get just as good of results as this hmc compost. I have done side by side comparison. And as long as it's pasturized in paint straining bags for 3 hrs you will have as good or better results. And that one bale of hay will last well over a year. Unless your using gh's like some of us.
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