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Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto)
#7887129 - 01/16/08 02:51 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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First of all it must be said that what I'm doing here has nothing to do with science. For the purpose of this experiment, the scientific mindset goes out the window and is replaced by the alchemistic mindset. I'm not out to debunk or disprove, but instead I'm hereby committing to an experiment in magic and alchemy, and choose to suspend rationalism and disbelief. Right? Here goes!
Little over two years ago a friend gave me an unusual book, the book was called "The Hidden Messages in Water" written by Masaru Emoto. In this book many remarkable claims were made regarding properties of water. One of these is the claim that water can pick up the vibrations of mind and substance, a line of thought known from homeopathy and certain forms of magic.
Today I decided to embark on an alchemistic experiment.
Gold is a substance that is said to be associated with many wonderful things. Wisdom, prosperity, spiritual growth and good health being among them. Some religions specify that their priests are to drink from gold cups, that offerings are to be made on gold platters and that even the domes of mosques and temples are to be clad in gold. Gold has been valued highly by all cultures who knew it, and this for thousands of years. Pharaoh's tombs were to be decorated with it.
My experiment is this: I have taken a piece of pure gold (a bullion coin) and placed it into a liter of fresh water in a fully enameled pot. I brought this water to a boil to have it discharge its previous energies and vibrations, then let it boil for a while and then let it slowly cool down. Then, the water was ran through a plastic funnel into a plastic bottle which ended up in my refrigerator.
There is an order in metal that allows currency to pass through it with ease, and which to some extent interacts with magnetic fields. By using strictly enamelware and plastic, the only element my water was charged with, was pure gold. Whatever vibrations or energies there may or may not be in gold, the water is now charged with it.
I intend to drink a glass of this water each day, and will observe my mind, body and spirit to see whether I feel a change, and what form this takes. Water charged with Gold, the holiest metal of many religions - the element of physical, mental and spiritual Perfection and life eternal of alchemy - will course through every cell of my body and interact with me on all imaginable levels.
I hope it will do me some good on some level 
If anyone wants to do this experiment with me, by all means join me. Use a piece of gold jewelry or similar. You can use silver, but the spiritual sources indicate there might be different but positive results. Only use pure metal, not jewelry with stone settings etc as the settings may be badly affected by boiling water. Pure gold/silver in enamelware ought to withstand boiling water with no damage at all, but as always: proceed at your own risk.
Be advised that if you use your wedding or engagement ring(s) that not just the energies of the metal will be imparted to the water, but according to Masaru Emoto's work the energies of the personal and spiritual significance that piece of jewelry will be imparted to the water as well.
If you're in a good marriage, perhaps put both your rings in the water and do the experiment together, to the benefit of your relationship.
Like I said, if you're looking for science you're in the wrong thread If any of you have questions, remarks or like to discuss or even participate, that's what this thread is for.
Here's to an open mind, Cheers!
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7889842 - 01/16/08 07:27 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Good Luck on your experiment!!
and I would like to remind everybody that Alchemy is often based in the scientific world and often uses elements of chemistry, metallurgy, physics, medicine, astrology, semiotics, mysticism, spiritualism, and art all as parts of one greater force.
and as farout as some of it's concepts seem they have led to some fantastic discovery's like the invention of gunpowder, ore testing and refining, metalworking, production of ink, dyes, paints, and cosmetics, leather tanning, ceramics and glass manufacture, preparation of extracts and liquors
for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: CosmicFool]
#7891818 - 01/17/08 05:18 AM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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Hmmm... I know what happens to people when they drink silver (argyria), but I haven't heard anything about drinking gold (other than Goldschlager issues, but those were alcohol related rather than gold related).
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By using strictly enamelware and plastic, the only element my water was charged with, was pure gold. Whatever vibrations or energies there may or may not be in gold, the water is now charged with it.
I guess the vibrations in the oxygen, nitrogen, and other trace gasses don't count in alchemy? Good thing there are no elements in plastic and enamelware. (sorry, couldn't help myself)
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Seuss]
#7895262 - 01/17/08 10:18 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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I guess the vibrations in the oxygen, nitrogen, and other trace gasses don't count in alchemy?
Work with me here 
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7895434 - 01/17/08 10:59 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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It's nice to see someone experimenting.
Are you making colloidal gold?
If so, you need to run an electrical current through the gold while it's in distilled water.
Colloidal gold is often mistaken for Monatomic Gold, which many believe is the true philosopher's stone.
Watch out for the snake oil salesmen though, this stuff is for real but what they are selling isn't.
Monatomic gold is found in nearly everything organic, the richest source happens to be cow's brains.
The second richest source happens to be salt from the Dead Sea...
What's funny is the technique of extracting monatomic gold from dead sea salt is nearly the same as extracting DMT from Mimosa bark.
Laurence Guardner tells the story of monatomic gold's (re)discoverer, David Hudson, in this fascinating presentation:
Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark: The Incredible Power of Gold
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante] 1
#7897740 - 01/18/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Sorry but I have to ask, what is the point of suspending rationalism?
This question has nothing to do with your experiment. I've heard plenty of people tell me things like facing north helps them feel more mentally alert... doesn't work for me, but apparently for them it does. Just because it doesn't work for me doesn't invalidate their experience. However, I wouldn't rule out placebo affect or even a habitual tendency. One should not ever sway too far into feelings or cold rationalism, because both are filled with traps. This is where the real wisdom comes into from. Gold just looks shiny. But then again, what do I know about gold or alchemy for that matter? Nada.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: psyka] 1
#7898041 - 01/18/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7903482 - 01/19/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Middleman]
#7904845 - 01/20/08 07:11 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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It's nice to see someone experimenting.
Are you making colloidal gold?
If so, you need to run an electrical current through the gold while it's in distilled water.
Colloidal gold is often mistaken for Monatomic Gold, which many believe is the true philosopher's stone.
Nope, in the case of colloidal gold and monoatomic gold, you are using a pharmacological method - actually ingesting a dose of gold.
What I'm going for is not the ingesting of gold, pharmacology, but rather have gold impart some of its nature to water and ingesting that, which you could call homeopathy in a way.
So far my gold experiment is going rosy When I ingest the water I get the sensation that something golden is happening. Sure, I'm open to it being a placebo effect, but placebo or naught it is noticable and occurs every time. There's an expansion of consciousness and there is the "sensation of gold" which is hard to describe.
The effect is almost instantaneous (too rapid for a pharmacological action) and I subscribe to mr Emoto's observation that "the energy distributes itself throughout all the water in the body." From wherever the gold-charged water touches me (mouth, throat, stomach) the sensation radiates outward independently of body tissues, transmitted like very penetrative heat would. I did not anticipate this but it is what I'm feeling.
Placebo? Perhaps, but it's an interesting experience nontheless.
During yesterday's trip I made a 50/50 mixture of gold-charged water and orange juice. This too had the "golden" effect.
Its an interesting experiment, I'm thinking of cooking up a batch of silver-charged water and seeing what it does
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7905009 - 01/20/08 09:01 AM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Just don't end up like this guy:
I wonder what gold will do for your skin. 
Although I doubt homeopathic doses will have any effect, keep us informed. If you have discovered a Potion Of Obscene Wealth, we would like to know
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7905596 - 01/20/08 12:30 PM (16 years, 12 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Here's to an open mind, Cheers!
WS - I have read about drinking in the properties of gold, without ingesting the actual gold, using your method,and a myriad of others.
Some schools of thought do this with quartz (and many other gems as well) by placing in a clear phial - placing the gem/stone in the water and letting the sun heat the water. ( Number of days are subject to planetary influences/symbol of numbers, etc.)
the water is then applied to wounds/dis-ease. or drank to infuse the entire body with the properties. Gold, amber,jade,quartz and pearls are some of the minerals i have read about, and can understand why their properties were sought.
let us know how it goes. i will join you, and use a quartz shard i have.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7925501 - 01/24/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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you're in a little over a week, how are you doing, are you dead yet?
also how long do you plan on doing this?
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: CosmicFool]
#7928829 - 01/25/08 08:06 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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i never started - my pot smoking got in the way.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
#7962050 - 01/31/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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People are already doing this with flowers and crystals. You can buy crystal and flower essences.
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Crystal Elixirs
Elixirs are made of water that has been charged with the energy of specific crystals. Water is almost magical in its ability to accept and hold various energies and transfer them wherever needed. The simplest way to make an elixir is to set a glass of water in the sun with the crystal in it for a few hours.
Two hours is usually enough, but you can go upto twenty-four hours to incorporate the balanced energy of a full cycle. More is not necessarily better here. If you want to store the elixir for a time, make it with at least 50% brandy. Otherwise use distilled water. When you are ready to use it, you need just a few drops in a glass of water.
blah, blah. blah see website for more info.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: eagle25]
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It wasn't spam, dufus.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#7971307 - 02/02/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting, WS - definitely update periodically.
I've charged a few gallons of water with the first rays of the morning sun while sending a specific consciousness-raising intent into the water and I felt a similar impact as you mentioned. Although it definitely could be placebo, I felt an almost instant feeling course through me. It was almost a feeling of being propelled forward...transcendence in a way.
If you have some good results I may have to test it out myself...I kind of had to stop my water charging since the only place high enough to catch the first sun rays was on top of a parking ramp
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: fazdazzle]
#14826652 - 07/26/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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... just a kwik comment... i see alot of people attributing the effect of these "elixers" to the placebo effect. IMO the placebo effect is a direct proof of the power of the mind over matter... almost exactly the same as when i used mushrooms to heal my bronchitis not so long ago... and according to a documentary on the placebo effect. Placebos are said to pull in at least 1/5 of all medical revenue in the US, and yet it has not been a well researched... its as if they dont want us to fully understand the placebo effect.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Daz.Skallywag]
#14827250 - 07/26/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cool experiment Wiccan! I think it is a great way to get more into touch with your subjective nature. (as opposed to objective) 
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Daz.Skallywag]
#14827932 - 07/26/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Daz.Skallywag said: ... just a kwik comment... i see alot of people attributing the effect of these "elixers" to the placebo effect. IMO the placebo effect is a direct proof of the power of the mind over matter... almost exactly the same as when i used mushrooms to heal my bronchitis not so long ago... and according to a documentary on the placebo effect. Placebos are said to pull in at least 1/5 of all medical revenue in the US, and yet it has not been a well researched... its as if they dont want us to fully understand the placebo effect.
Interesting that for your first post, you chose to resurrect this particular, and intriguing topic by Wiccan Seeker. I am in the middle of reading The Hidden Messages in Water by Dr. Masaru Emoto. I'm on holiday and living in Miami. I own a pool, and I have long maintained that when my mind is clear, this water that i take care of, remains clear. When I am anxious, no matter how much brushing, vacuuming, chemicals, it develops different types of algae. I've been peaceful and content, and in the pool every day or night, and I swear that the black-spot algae that is so difficult to kill had diminished a lot. Since the pool needs resurfacing every 10 years or so, at 11 years, much of the Diamond-Bright concrete has come up or become porous, encouraging more algae growth, especially during the hot summer months which encourage photosynthesis and quickly dispel chlorine from the water.
Dr. Emoto recapitulates many of the ideas on correspondences from classic astrology, magick, and alchemy. He cites a study on page 71 (a recurrent number in my life) about the influence of planets on their classic correspondences with metals. For example, when planet Saturn has the greatest effect on Earth, compounds with Lead, Saturn's planetary metal, travel more quickly up filter paper in chromatography of mixed compounds. The same with, say, Venus, with copper compounds, etc.
I am studying and writing on alchemy this summer. I have just written on the alchemical production of a Homunculus using the 'Gur' of lightning-charged rainwater and human semen. I am also reporting on Andrew Crosse's production of insectoid life-forms from an electrically charged chunk of iron oxide in a viscous solution of hydrochloric acid and potassium silicate (water glass). It seems, from further studies on Crosse, that Mary Wollenstone Shelley may have known of Crosse's work, or the scientist Michael Faraday's replication of Crosse's work, which gave her the idea for Frankenstein: A Modern Prometheus. It seems that fiction either precedes fact (as in Jules verne's nuclear submarine Nautilus), or it represents a slice of the total picture, which is the Real.
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Re: Alchemy -- Wiccan's Magical Gold-Charged Water Experiment (based on work by Masaru Emoto) [Re: Asante]
#14831611 - 07/27/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: First of all it must be said that what I'm doing here has nothing to do with science. For the purpose of this experiment, the scientific mindset goes out the window and is replaced by the alchemistic mindset. I'm not out to debunk or disprove, but instead I'm hereby committing to an experiment in magic and alchemy, and choose to suspend rationalism and disbelief. Right? Here goes!
Little over two years ago a friend gave me an unusual book, the book was called "The Hidden Messages in Water" written by Masaru Emoto. In this book many remarkable claims were made regarding properties of water. One of these is the claim that water can pick up the vibrations of mind and substance, a line of thought known from homeopathy and certain forms of magic.
Today I decided to embark on an alchemistic experiment.
Gold is a substance that is said to be associated with many wonderful things. Wisdom, prosperity, spiritual growth and good health being among them. Some religions specify that their priests are to drink from gold cups, that offerings are to be made on gold platters and that even the domes of mosques and temples are to be clad in gold. Gold has been valued highly by all cultures who knew it, and this for thousands of years. Pharaoh's tombs were to be decorated with it.
My experiment is this: I have taken a piece of pure gold (a bullion coin) and placed it into a liter of fresh water in a fully enameled pot. I brought this water to a boil to have it discharge its previous energies and vibrations, then let it boil for a while and then let it slowly cool down. Then, the water was ran through a plastic funnel into a plastic bottle which ended up in my refrigerator.
There is an order in metal that allows currency to pass through it with ease, and which to some extent interacts with magnetic fields. By using strictly enamelware and plastic, the only element my water was charged with, was pure gold. Whatever vibrations or energies there may or may not be in gold, the water is now charged with it.
I intend to drink a glass of this water each day, and will observe my mind, body and spirit to see whether I feel a change, and what form this takes. Water charged with Gold, the holiest metal of many religions - the element of physical, mental and spiritual Perfection and life eternal of alchemy - will course through every cell of my body and interact with me on all imaginable levels.
I hope it will do me some good on some level 
If anyone wants to do this experiment with me, by all means join me. Use a piece of gold jewelry or similar. You can use silver, but the spiritual sources indicate there might be different but positive results. Only use pure metal, not jewelry with stone settings etc as the settings may be badly affected by boiling water. Pure gold/silver in enamelware ought to withstand boiling water with no damage at all, but as always: proceed at your own risk.
Be advised that if you use your wedding or engagement ring(s) that not just the energies of the metal will be imparted to the water, but according to Masaru Emoto's work the energies of the personal and spiritual significance that piece of jewelry will be imparted to the water as well.
If you're in a good marriage, perhaps put both your rings in the water and do the experiment together, to the benefit of your relationship.
Like I said, if you're looking for science you're in the wrong thread If any of you have questions, remarks or like to discuss or even participate, that's what this thread is for.
Here's to an open mind, Cheers!
From what I understand it is the consumption of a amall amount ie colloidal that has an effect because the flecks break up and flow through your system charging your blood by being an electric conductor.
I heard the precious metals got their value because when they conduct they kill viruses by not allowing viruses to latch on to protein walls. So you get clean water. I would guess this is its use in your body. I have read on the internet that people used to put a gold or silver coin at the bottom of a glass of milk to preserve it.
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