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Oral Marijuana
    #7884053 - 01/15/08 03:36 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

can you just take like a 1/2 gram of bud chew it up and swallow it, instead of cooking it. Or does heat release something for it to activate orally. Also are both sativa and indigo plants able to be eaten.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884063 - 01/15/08 03:38 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

i've tried it.. doesn't work. and it's really hard to eat.

at least it didn't work for me.

i think you have to cook it out into some butter or something like that.. at least that's how brownies are made.

i dont fux with the weed anymore..


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7884081 - 01/15/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

why wouldnt it work? (and i think maybe you mean indica)


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: impgl]
    #7884089 - 01/15/08 03:42 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

lol indigo.

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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884108 - 01/15/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

theres better forums to ask that, but I have yet to hear of anyone eating a bud and having any effect.

something about heat is needed, I would cook it into butter and at least put it on some toast or something.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #7884156 - 01/15/08 03:51 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Long time ago I mixed yougurt with a bunch of bud (not even close to mids), I got blasted. I havent tried it since then.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #7884160 - 01/15/08 03:51 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

indeed indica....lol kinda out of it right now some coming down effects of a drug i shall never return to.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884165 - 01/15/08 03:52 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

yogurt has fat in it.


I think it has something to do with drawing it out into fat.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #7884168 - 01/15/08 03:53 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Hm, makes sense, THC is fat-soluble I believe.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7884231 - 01/15/08 04:03 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah i understand the fat thing. Thats why use use the bud butter to cook with. I just thought the fat in your body would pull it out.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884237 - 01/15/08 04:04 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Yeah i understand the fat thing. Thats why use use the bud butter to cook with. I just thought the fat in your body would pull it out.




If you really stop and just think about what the process of eating entails, that doesn't exactly make sense.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884298 - 01/15/08 04:15 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I'm pretty sure if you eat enough weed you will get high whether or not you dissolve the cannabinoids in some other type of solution. Your stomach has no problem dissolving marijuana and releasing a lot of the cannabinoids, though obviously not as well as using ghee.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: fapjack]
    #7884333 - 01/15/08 04:21 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

the Oil "THC" needs to be emulsified in butter or infused with oil like olive oil or alcohol.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: smily]
    #7884648 - 01/15/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

i tried eating a bud once, i got barely threshold effects, but occasinally i could feel it... not worth eating straight buds tho... not efficient

i like to cook it into a little cream of wheat with butter... mmmm


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884761 - 01/15/08 05:41 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

In the plant, THC mostly occurs as the carboxylic acid form (THC-COOH). That's to say that a carboxy functional group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxyl) is attached to the THC molecule. This form of THC is not very (not at all?) psychoactive.

To get the psychoactive form, the carboxy functional group has to be cleaved off the THC molecule (technically called decarboxylation).

Heat does this neatly because the energy required to cleave off the carboxy is almost there at room temperature. A little more heat and the functional group gets lopped off, leaving behind the chilli (THC) that you want. Hence the popularity of cooked cannabutter.

But I'm no chemist. If someone who knows this stuff better than me wants to chime in, be my guest.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7884770 - 01/15/08 05:43 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Eating straight buds isnt gonna do shit unless you are eating a massive amount. Like.. munching on a cola or somthing. I forget the EXACT reasons but it is somthing to do with your stomach not releasing/digesting the THC fast enough to have any effects. It's more like slow and steady, so you never reach the point where you get effects unless you bombard your stomach with THC. Cooking the weed in some sort of fat like butter releases the THC into the fat which it is very soluable in. Your stomache digests this faster/has to do less work to release the THC, somthing along those lines. Do some research. But to answer your question, no, eating straight buds isn't gonna do anything unless your eating a shitload, in which case it would be a huge waste.

Also the decarboxylation Diploid explained above me. Forgot about that.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Diploid]
    #7884784 - 01/15/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

What about mixing marijuana with alcohol?


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: fapjack]
    #7884796 - 01/15/08 05:47 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

^^^ AKA: Green Dragon, among other names. Look it up.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Jraft]
    #7884817 - 01/15/08 05:52 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Eating straight buds isnt gonna do shit unless you are eating a massive amount. Like.. munching on a cola or somthing. I forget the EXACT reasons but




I got pretty well fucked after eating a couple grams, stayed high most of the day
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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7884831 - 01/15/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Ok well thats interesting, I'm glad you mentioned it. I'm just going by what I have read. I've also eaten a gram before I knew much at all about pot and got zero effects.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Jraft]
    #7884915 - 01/15/08 06:13 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I know what green dragon is, I'm not a noob. I was pointing out that you don't heat alcohol when you mix it with marijuana, so saying that it needs to be heated to become active doesn't really make any sense.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: fapjack]
    #7884949 - 01/15/08 06:20 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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I'm pretty sure if you eat enough weed you will get high whether or not you dissolve the cannabinoids in some other type of solution. Your stomach has no problem dissolving marijuana and releasing a lot of the cannabinoids, though obviously not as well as using ghee.




Actually that's the problem. The complex fibers of Cannabis which contain the cannabinoids cannot be effectively broken down by the human digestive system. Animals on the other hand are quite capable. That's why dogs get so trashed off eating bud.

Back when OverGrow.com was still up there was several people there who finely grinded up their herb and mixed it with fatty foods before eating it. The heat from the digestion process and the fat in the foods likely helped the process along to be moderately successful. They always reported satisfying effects.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't at least make firecrackers w/ the herb though. It's so easy and very effective.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7885084 - 01/15/08 06:46 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

nah it doesnt do shit, you got to cook it somehow or smoke it..
I have had a pet lovebird literally eat killer dank bud, i dont think he got high off of it, it was 2 hit shit too..i gave him some weed seeds today, i usually dont have seeds because i usually smoke killer indica bud, not sativa.
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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: emrandel]
    #7885094 - 01/15/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

some green dragon sounds really good....


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: emrandel]
    #7885153 - 01/15/08 06:58 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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I'm pretty sure if you eat enough weed you will get high whether or not you dissolve the cannabinoids in some other type of solution. Your stomach has no problem dissolving marijuana and releasing a lot of the cannabinoids, though obviously not as well as using ghee.




Actually that's the problem. The complex fibers of Cannabis which contain the cannabinoids cannot be effectively broken down by the human digestive system. Animals on the other hand are quite capable. That's why dogs get so trashed off eating bud.

Back when OverGrow.com was still up there was several people there who finely grinded up their herb and mixed it with fatty foods before eating it. The heat from the digestion process and the fat in the foods likely helped the process along to be moderately successful. They always reported satisfying effects.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't at least make firecrackers w/ the herb though. It's so easy and very effective.



that sounds much more plausible than the heat activation theory

but there might be something to that theory, you never know


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7885171 - 01/15/08 07:01 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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can you just take like a 1/2 gram of bud chew it up and swallow it, instead of cooking it. Or does heat release something for it to activate orally. Also are both sativa and indigo plants able to be eaten.




No thc is bound to plant matter, and to digest it properly it needs to be unbound (by heating it). Sure if you ate a quarter of raw weed you'd feel a buzz most likely.. but you'd probably get sick and throw up.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7885305 - 01/15/08 07:23 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

my moms lovebird ate enough dank bud to get the little guy high as fuck and he still acted the same, i guess birds are like humans.
He ate it while i was breaking it apart into shake before I was loading a bowl..i didnt intentionally give the bird cronic weed.
P.S. i gave this bird about 3 maijuana seeds from my bag while I was deseeding my bag..i give him my herb stems to chew on sometimes as well.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Skunk420]
    #7885387 - 01/15/08 07:37 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

That is him in my avatar, I have other pictures of this crazy little lovebird in my pictures collection.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7885704 - 01/15/08 08:32 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Hm, makes sense, THC is fat-soluble I believe.




Correct-a-mundo. THC is a fat soluable substance. You need to simmer the bud in a fat substance, like butter or oil for an extended pieriod of time. The actual foliage needs to be to the point where is is like mush. If you cook it long enough, the heat will extract the THC from the actualplant cell and be absorbed into the fat substance. Then use the oil/butter to cook whatever you want. Just don't get it over 425 degrees for too long. THC starts to break down at about that temp. Brownies are best.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Samurai_Jim]
    #7885762 - 01/15/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

toss a ground bud in the microwave in a cup with some butter for a couple minutes  then spread it on toast :biggrin:


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: emrandel]
    #7885825 - 01/15/08 08:56 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I'm sure that some animals can digest weed more efficiently, making it possible to get them high from eating smaller amounts, but the fact remains if you eat enough weed you will get high. I never listed an exact dose, but a lot less weed is needed if cooked in oil first versus eaten raw.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: fapjack]
    #7885888 - 01/15/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

425 is pretty hot for cannabutter, I wouldn't go over 350


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7886090 - 01/15/08 09:35 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I heard if you dip the nug in butter and boof it up ur bum it works 100xbetter


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: highc]
    #7886104 - 01/15/08 09:37 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

It doesn't work. Your body will not break up the bud enough to release the thc. But I heard its a good source of fiber :thumbup:


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: SheikCorp]
    #7886215 - 01/15/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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I heard if you dip the nug in butter and boof it up ur bum it works 100xbetter



well that could work, if one is comfortable with such things, i doubt 100x better and i strongly suspect that this was a smartass comment, but plugging cannabutter actually could work


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7886788 - 01/15/08 11:57 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

wouldn't hash oil be a little more effective? I don't think anybody wants butter in their ass haha.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Jraft]
    #7886833 - 01/16/08 12:12 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

check these out no heat involved Headies makes an Olive Oil infused with cannabis that is to die for just a drizzle on a plate some balsamic vinegar some bread hold on or sit back either or LOLOLOL






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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Jraft]
    #7887290 - 01/16/08 05:24 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

I had a friend who provided certain people with services and products that was pulled over one time while he was carrying a quarter of some good, which he ate. He avoided getting busted but got a ticket.

He told me that he started getting hella stoned while he was talking to the cop and could hardly maintain.

I seriously doubt it is AS active without that heat activation, but it works apparently.


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7887327 - 01/16/08 06:00 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Green Dragon  :wink:


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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7889859 - 01/16/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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wouldn't hash oil be a little more effective? I don't think anybody wants butter in their ass haha.




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Re: Oral Marijuana [Re: SheikCorp]
    #7889875 - 01/16/08 07:34 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

heh i figured


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