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Mixed up cakes need help Identifying
    #7883676 - 01/15/08 02:26 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

A friend of mine is just starting out as well as I am however does not have an account and asked me to see if i could get these identified for him, i stick with casing so i dont have this problem, when he put his cakes into fruit he mixed them up so he does not know which are which he has to types it could be either Koh Samui Supers or Keepers Creepers this is his first flush and is trying to print so he needs the proper name. Thank you very much here is a few pics of them.








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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7884097 - 01/15/08 03:43 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

It is really hard to tell.

I am familiar with Koh Samui and the way the veil is breaking on your pictures(its not leaving anything on the stem) i could say it might be them. I am not familiar with this keeper's strain.


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: baraka]
    #7884444 - 01/15/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Ya i have spent alot of time looking through different pictures the look to me more like they are the koh then the creepers but I just want to make sure before i go and tell him, thanks alot that kinda makes me feel a little better on my call :smile:


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7884452 - 01/15/08 04:46 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

so far I see psilocybe cubensis!!!
It does not matter what so called strain they are any more. You should not try to pass the spores on as anything but cubes.


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: tahoe]
    #7884474 - 01/15/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

The labeling of spores is for personal use he wants to see if he can find little differences between each, find what he likes best, if worse comes to worse i can just give him some spore prints that are labelled properly, just its his first cube so he wants to try to keep it going.


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7884484 - 01/15/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

well he is screwed. He will never be 100% sure of what he has. Stqart over


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: tahoe]
    #7884500 - 01/15/08 04:58 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Haha thanks I will let him know I already told him he was an idiot for doing it but you know what can you do haha, i just posted to see if there may have been a big difference in the looks between a keeper or a koh from other pics i have seen it looks more like a koh, but i guess i should try to find some more evidence besides looks they must have some traits or some sort to make them more identifiable i will just keep looking just in case. But thanks for the input if it comes down to it i will tell him exactly that


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7884706 - 01/15/08 05:30 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I'm a professional taster. I can you the exact strain after eatin' a few of those bad boys. Package, send, then I'll get back to you. :wink:


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: verminute]
    #7884855 - 01/15/08 06:01 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

haha well some how people do identify strains in the wild so there must be some way i am sure to tell the difference just goto look alot for it


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7884873 - 01/15/08 06:03 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

People identify species in the wild. Strains don't exist in the wild, they are a man made thing.


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: Nibin]
    #7884960 - 01/15/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

ok i am pretty new to this so that confuses me a little, a species is what and a strain is what then? A koh samui and a keepers creeper are strains or are they species?


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7885207 - 01/15/08 07:06 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Go to the mushroom hunting forum, speak with Alan Rockefeller, and ugh, crap, forgot the other names -- there are some knowledgeable people in there. They will need a print of the spores and close up pictures, they will be able to tell you exactly what they are! :laugh:


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7885226 - 01/15/08 07:09 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Quote:

TobesCanaian said:
ok i am pretty new to this so that confuses me a little, a species is what and a strain is what then? A koh samui and a keepers creeper are strains or are they species?




A strain is a sub set of species, so let's say a hairless cat is a (sometimes) genetically altered cat which does not have hair...

As Tobes said, you can tell the species, but not the strain.


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: verminute]
    #7885460 - 01/15/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Thanks for clearing that up that confused me a lot hehe well to be honest i am not going to go into to much effort to try and identify it like i said its not mine i am just doing this for my friend cause he doesnt have an account i will just tell him to start over new with a print that i give him till then he can just call that one a cube thats all hehe :P but thanks alot of all the help guys its muchly appreciated


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: TobesCanaian]
    #7885701 - 01/15/08 08:31 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

if i had to say this is a certain species I would guess eq's


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: Nibin]
    #7885758 - 01/15/08 08:44 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

The name's serve to identify specific characteristic between the various cubensis available....

a cube is a cube is a cube as far as growing and the over all end product being a mature mushroom but different strains can and do demonstrate different characteristic's over others, B+ is a hybrid that can fruit off wood chips, but it is a cube, try to fruit South American or F+ off wood chips and they will fail.

Blue meanies thermo death at anything higher then 72f, they prefer 62-68f while colonizing (for optimum times)

psilocybin effects even varies from strain to strain, Ive grown out over 20 cube species and each one has something unique about it, hence why there is so many different names for them....

So to say a cube is a cube is a cube, yea, sure, they're all mushrooms and they all contain psilocybin but mostly all of the strains out there have at least one unique trait for them to get their name and if not consider it a geographical thing.


IMO, the bottom pic looks to much like Kou Thai Samui for me not to say anything, later.


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Re: Mixed up cakes need help Identifying [Re: tahoe]
    #7885763 - 01/15/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Haha like i said its either a koh or a creeper haha he had those syringes and he mixed up his cakes


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