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Icelander
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OrgoneConclusion said: Using your intuition (and subliminal clues), am I holding a quarter in my right hand or my left hand?
You don't have a quarter or a pot to piss in. I ain't fooled.
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Rose
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Icelander]
#7884753 - 01/15/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I know where he stuck that quarter...
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Love Cap
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Rose]
#7884772 - 01/15/08 05:43 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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jackthetripper it won't let me give you a general rating! the only selection i can make is 'trade'
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Rose
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Love Cap]
#7884825 - 01/15/08 05:54 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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$5 says you ALREADY rated him.
Hmmmm... yes you did.
6 hours ago...
"5 For stating the truth"
Sound familiar?
Short term memory much?
Also, why did you reply to ME when you are talking to HIM?
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Love Cap
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Rose]
#7884976 - 01/15/08 06:25 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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oh wow! that ridiculous isn't it? haha! and sorry, i guess sometimes i don't pay attention to the 'reply to' option, you know, i just scroll down and reply.
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: JackthaTripper]
#7884984 - 01/15/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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JackthaTripper said: Do you think Socrates and Plato could discuss piety if one of them said "Prove there is a God then I may discuss."?
That is what Socrates did say!
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Rose
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Love Cap]
#7884987 - 01/15/08 06:28 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Man, I made that mistake for months when I started here.
But if I don't call you on it... how will you ever learn?
It is how I learned.
As for forgetting you rated a guy the same day you rated him... I can't help you there.
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Love Cap]
#7885001 - 01/15/08 06:30 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah I got the rating, thanks. I think you should be able to rate me twice if you wanted to
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JackthaTripper
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MushmanTheManic said:
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JackthaTripper said: Do you think Socrates and Plato could discuss piety if one of them said "Prove there is a God then I may discuss."?
That is what Socrates did say!
The two did discuss, in great detail, piety without the proof of Gods existence.
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: JackthaTripper]
#7885033 - 01/15/08 06:38 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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"Is piety good because the gods like it, or do the gods like piety because it is good?"
Classic Socrates
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Love Cap
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hey assman, is that an aya painting?
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JackthaTripper
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Yeah I remember that one from Phil 100 a few years back, I had to read it a few times to capture its meaning
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Love Cap]
#7885101 - 01/15/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Love Cap said: hey assman, is that an aya painting?
i am the assman!
you mean the picture in my signature? It's actually a collection of pictures, and I think a few of them are aya inspired, some of them mushroom inspired, some of them dmt, and so on. i actually collected a whole bunch of psychedelic art from erowid.org and then made a sort of collage out of them 
i recommend taking a look at their art section there if you haven't already, some great stuff there!
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Love Cap
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yeah i've looked through it a bit, there IS a lot of good stuff in there! but props on the collage! love it!
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: Love Cap]
#7885151 - 01/15/08 06:58 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: JackthaTripper]
#7885518 - 01/15/08 08:00 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I used to be able to rate people twice in one day, but that was when I was younger.
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: JackthaTripper]
#7886348 - 01/15/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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JackthaTripper said:
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MushmanTheManic said:
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JackthaTripper said: Do you think Socrates and Plato could discuss piety if one of them said "Prove there is a God then I may discuss."?
That is what Socrates did say!
The two did discuss, in great detail, piety without the proof of Gods existence.
Oh yeah.... I thought they discussed God in the Apology, but I was wrong. 
If you want to discuss theological topics, then ignore the throngs of atheists and skeptics. The existence of a god has been argued ad nauseum in philosophy for millennia, so you shouldn't be surprised that it is being argued about here.
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: JackthaTripper]
#7887453 - 01/16/08 07:23 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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JackthaTripper said: It is increasingly difficult to have a reasonable discussion in P&S. It seems every issue must be embedded in proven fact to even be discussed. Philosophy and Spirituality are subjects that have been developed and based on things that can not be or have not been proven (God, spirits, souls, afterlife...). When one of these issues starts to be discussed there are a few in here that continuously nitpick at small issues demanding they be proven or saying the topic is against rules or belongs in a different forum. This is seriously detracting from the discussion of these subjects and these people have derailed way too many threads dealing with these subjects. So to those who are bickering and nitpicking continuously on these issues (we all know whos being referred to here) please stop so threads can be opened and freely discussed without being completely derailed or reduced to redundant arguments about the unknown. The content of the P&S forum has suffered enough
Please, people have been saying this for the past five years.
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: JackthaTripper]
#7887513 - 01/16/08 08:02 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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As P&S came out of S&P, all personalism (towards the contributors of the threads) was forbidden. As some people here can't discern positive from negative (destructive vs constructive) personalism, maybe we have to sharpen this rule once again back to basics  ...
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Apollyphelion
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Re: P&S Discussion Reduced to Bickering [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7887644 - 01/16/08 09:24 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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This forum is really just a tangled mess about the grouping of neurological arrangements-
In otherwords langauage is merely an innate ability related to genetics/biology, and all these conversations are just metaphors for the physicalities that, with in the theory of logic, should be able to be measured. At the very base, philosphy COULD be a hard science, if we developed the tools to measure the parts of the brain that are stimulated by such topics covered in this forum.
You saw God? That's your so and so acting up. You felt fear, and the presence of a spirit? That's this region, and judging by our equipment there is a crosswiring of emotional content and psychedelics, so you are clearly a philosopher.
Judging by your neurological arrangement, you must like philosophy!
Another way to put it is that we would be able to compare experiences directly; objectively if we were able to correlate what words, language, and expressions with there neurological counterparts. So by finding out which areas of the brain are stimulated by non-existant things such as God, Spirits, Souls and what not, like matching thumprints we can compare and contast the differences between neurological prints.
So yes, spirits, souls and what not do not exist with in most logical people's defintion. They DO exist as a grouping of neuropathways. We can talk about those neurological associations because THEY are there.
When someones talking about spirits, they are talking about neurology; something very organic. Neurologist (and people in the field) must use language to observe neurons.
So when someone talks about spirits, I hear "This is my current neurological state" They are the same thing to me. Talk about spirits, people, until we get the equipment to properly identify how they exist neurologically/biologically.
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