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boger1977
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No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!!
#7881923 - 01/15/08 06:58 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Hey guys I'm a noob at this and any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm doing the mason jar thing w/ verm. and organic rice flour w/ perc. on top. Sterilized them w/ a pc, let them cool over night, and inoculated the next day. I have absolutely no growth! the inoc. took place 1-5-08. the only thing i can think of that went wrong is the needle that came w/ the syringe wasnt very long. i'm not sure if i got totally into the verm. past the perlite. now, if that is the case, i have no mold growth either. would it be possible to re-inoculate these jars??? also, i have a very old house and it is drafty. I know a cooler temp will slow the process but will it stop it completely?? Also if there is a better way to grow, please let me know. any growing guides that have worked for you would be great. but i would really like to make these jars work if possible. sorry about the pic, crappy camera=crappy pic!!!!!
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bait_
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: boger1977]
#7881926 - 01/15/08 07:01 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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um you were suppose to put dry verm on top not perlite.
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boger1977
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: bait_]
#7881937 - 01/15/08 07:07 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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wow i really f'd that up! am i going to get any thing w/ this.
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shroober
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: boger1977]
#7882033 - 01/15/08 07:40 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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did you mix the BRF with verm and then put BRF on top or did you just put in a lot of verm and a little BRF on top? Either way its pretty bad. Not sure if you are going to get anything from that.
Next time mix the BRF with the verm using the PF tek as a guide and then add a layer of verm on top. The verm is non-nute so it acts as a barrier, what you did is the exact opposite, you put a highly nutritious layer on top which could likely cause or help contams
best advice, start over
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boger1977
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: shroober]
#7882067 - 01/15/08 07:52 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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actually i mixed the rice flour and verm with water (according to the guide) and accidentally put a layer of perlite instead of dry verm on top. i mis-read the guide.
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: shroober]
#7882068 - 01/15/08 07:52 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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u use perlite for the fruiting chamber not in the jar :O. you only use verm/brf/water for the jars silly rabbit
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shroober
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: boger1977]
#7882087 - 01/15/08 07:59 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
boger1977 said: actually i mixed the rice flour and verm with water (according to the guide) and accidentally put a layer of perlite instead of dry verm on top. i mis-read the guide.
ahhh, you might be ok then, perlite shouldnt harm it (i dont think) its not ideal but could still potentially work, definately wouldnt throw them away
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bait_
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: shroober]
#7882105 - 01/15/08 08:06 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I don't know if that would create a barrier nearly as well as dry verm though.
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donpatch
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: bait_]
#7882137 - 01/15/08 08:17 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Perlite does not create the contam barrier on top that alot of people like with BRF. Read the teks more carefully next time?
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Re: No Growth!!! Dammit!!!!!! [Re: donpatch]
#7883175 - 01/15/08 12:20 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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It also very easily could have somehow affected the moisture content, maybe?
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