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Crasher
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: Blutjager]
#7893473 - 01/17/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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are you doing a side by side comparison of b vitamin enhanced substrate and normal substrate? I would do that and then administer a double blind test on your friends to determine potency.
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nekrakys
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: Crasher]
#7896178 - 01/18/08 06:30 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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But mycelium growing rate is awesome comparing to my latest batch. Day 8 after inoculation. BTW i don't see any sparks on foil The left one in pic is MW'ed, possible water nuked out?

And yes, placebo effect can make difference when determinating potency, well still happy that adding vitamins dont ruined my batch yet.
----UPDATE----- 01.28 Well three cakes dunked,cold shocked,rolled in verm now sitting in 70liter tub on perlite at 21C. The MW'ed jar became stalled for long time, and get contaminated by Green HULK 
 The right one is recovered from Mr.Green mold (not enough verm on top of jar) and now is waiting to revenge by pumping psilocybin in mushies
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Edited by nekrakys (01/26/08 04:37 AM)
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nekrakys
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7933731 - 01/26/08 04:43 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Mushies will be given away to Trip King to determing potency of these goodies. Trip King shouldnt know about B vitamins.....
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Civ
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7933879 - 01/26/08 08:00 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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*sits back and pulls out some popcorn*
Your grow area is disgustingly dirty. Your method to guess potency by feeding them to a friend isn't going to give you the level of psy/baeopsy in the batch or any information that could help you put a number on the strength.
You extract from two seperate batches, then compare results. Its about to be a contamination wonderland ... keep us updated.
Edited by Civ (01/26/08 08:08 AM)
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: fastfred]
#7933898 - 01/26/08 08:11 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Actually I think that's just something you made up.
Perhaps adding some wishfull thinking and a touch of placebo effect will give you crazy potent shroomz! Better write up a tek!
FF! Omg I really needed that this morning
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: Civ]
#7933908 - 01/26/08 08:14 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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yep, poor conditions in prison, its called Dirty's TEK
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7934012 - 01/26/08 08:47 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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microwaving foil or any metal is dangerous.. are you trying to blow up you kitchen? there is no way you can have metal in there without it getting hot, sparking or lighting ablaze... I cannot believe that you have the only microwave in the history of the world the doesnt react when metal is set inside.. at least just boil your jars... it works great for pf tek jars... you for sure need a PC for grain, though...
again, unless you want to be another fire death statistic, I suggest NOT MICROWAVING ANYTHING METAL... mostley...
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7934022 - 01/26/08 08:52 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Yeah i bought PC last week, today i inoculated 1 pint and 1 quart jar of rye.
But still, MW doesnt spark, i always MWing my chicken in foil... it doesnt blow... i thought it can be on the movies
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7934443 - 01/26/08 11:13 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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nekrakys said: Yeah i bought PC last week, today i inoculated 1 pint and 1 quart jar of rye.
But still, MW doesnt spark, i always MWing my chicken in foil... it doesnt blow... i thought it can be on the movies
If it works in the movies then for sure it will work in real life. We all know that...
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: verminute]
#7934724 - 01/26/08 12:17 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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not blowing for me, maybe it has protection or smth....
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7934964 - 01/26/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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I'm sorry dude, I can't understand what you're saying... Is english your second language? Tu parle francias?
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nekrakys
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: verminute]
#7935218 - 01/26/08 01:49 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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im saying: MW dont blow when nuking foil. is that clear? каков ваш второй язык? Испанский?
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: Blutjager]
#7990508 - 02/07/08 04:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well three cakes fruiting pretty well.Lots of direct misting, PMP 24/7. As you can see there is still water around cakes, so myc can leach it. 146 pins by now 
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Edited by nekrakys (02/07/08 04:46 AM)
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7994802 - 02/08/08 02:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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175g from first flush Potency will be tested tonight
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Edited by nekrakys (02/08/08 03:27 AM)
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7994876 - 02/08/08 04:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not bad from 3 cakes
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7994977 - 02/08/08 06:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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nekrakys said: Well, in my studies i have cycle of microbiology, and i know that pennicilinum group only can harm if you're alergic. Course i dont advice doing such as things i do, its only experiment , 
PS. MW didnt blow, why it had? I always MW'ing my food in foil
First of all, any kind of spore in the lungs is quite bad for you. Granted there are much worse things to breathe in than penicillium mold spores but they aren't harmless.
Second. Unless you are working from a genetic isolate the whole experiment will be a load of bs as you won't have the same genetics in each jar and so won't be able to compare
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: Nibin]
#7994991 - 02/08/08 06:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can't seem to get past the 'green mold is part of the penicillium group' part.  RR
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7995090 - 02/08/08 07:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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someone will
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: nekrakys]
#7995199 - 02/08/08 08:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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nekrakys said: well three cakes fruiting pretty well.Lots of direct misting, PMP 24/7. As you can see there is still water around cakes, so myc can leach it. 146 pins by now 
can't argue with results like that. not really PROOF of anything but still a nice flush. btw some newer microwaves can adjust for foil and not spark. mine is that way, just don't try nuking a fork.
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Re: Adding B group vitamins to substrate [Re: Hippie3]
#7995301 - 02/08/08 08:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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those are looking pretty nice but of course since this is not a controlled experiment its impossible to tell if the B vitamins had any effect, nice grow though, congrats!
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