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    #7880957 - 01/14/08 11:02 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

meditating and eating healthy help immensely with your overall well being.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: mlo517]
    #7880996 - 01/14/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

if you're going through psychological hell, just keep psychologically going..


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: mlo517]
    #7881185 - 01/14/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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mlo517 said:
Hey guys, I’m new here, not because I’m suffering from DP/DR but because I’ve overcome it. I would like to offer you guys what I truly believe to be a miracle. Before you continue reading, I want you to know that this is will work for everyone, although I am coming from a subjective point of view, this applies universally. There are no meds, no routines, none of that crap. Why? Because your problem doesn’t stem from your brain, and it does not stem from drug use (although that may have triggered it). Where it does stem from is your psychology, specifically your ego. As you may or may not know, DP/DR is a psychological defense mechanism. It occurs when your ego (your sense of self in contact with reality) feels that it is in danger and needs to shelter itself from the subconscious. This results in your sensation of what is known as depersonalization or derealization along with anxiety, panic and depression. I am truly surprised to read through these forums and not find a single answer to your problems, as I figured that someone around here would have figured out a way out of this destructive phenomena.

Anyway, before I present anymore information, I would like to tell you a little bit about my experience. I am 18 years old, and have just entered my freshman year in college. Last year, I was looking forward to a great time in college consisting of partying, studying, and experiencing a new life. During my summer before going off to college, I decided to give the so called “magic mushrooms” a try. I had the worst experience of my life, which left me completely destroyed….I mean DESTROYED. This brought me from a happy life to living in what I truly believed to be complete hell. For 2 months I could not sleep, with racing thoughts through my head which I thought would drive me to insanity(and I thank god that I didn’t, as I was on the verge of Psychosis). I’ve gone through it all, feeling disconnected from reality to the point where I actually thought I was going to lose it all. I’ve had strong dreaming sensations, feelings of disconnect from my body, jitters, paranoia, living in a fog, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, etc. I decided to see doctors, psychiatrist, and psychologists, only to find no hope other than bullshit medical prescriptions and diagnosis of anxiety. Eventually, I connected with a Jungian psychoanalyst, who saved my life. It has now been about 5 months, and I am just about fully recovered.

Now before I go on, I do recommend you find some good SSRIs such as Celexa (or whatever drug works for you and will take the edge off of your panic) only to help you on your journey through development. Keep in mind that these will only mask your underlying problem, and calm you so that you can better focus on life rather than your issue. Also…lay off the drugs and alcohol, as well as the stimulants such as sugars and caffeine.

Now let me tell you what your subconscious issue consists of… INSECURITY. Yes that’s your issue, psychological insecurity. Basically what this means is that your ego (or basically “you”) feels threatened by the life it has experienced. This then causes it to dub out “reality”, so that it doesn’t encounter any danger. So what do you have to do from here? Strengthen and expand your ego, in order to secure yourself with the reality that it lives in. Here is a little guide to do that, and a few professional explanations to clear it up, but there is more.

http://www.neurosemantics.com/Stuttering/Ego_Strength.htm

What you need to do is go out into the world, and try new things. By new things, I mean things that are outside of your comfort zone, so that you expand it. By staying in your comfort zone, you will only be stuck in a limbo of reality and “unreality”.

Here’s some tips

-socialize
-take up a new sport/hobby
-pursue your dreams, whatever they may be
-be daring (do anything…shit, go skydiving/base jumping/rock climbing/WHATEVER)
-if your shy, talk to girls/guys and push yourself to say anything that’ll make you uncomfortable (ex – if you see a hot chick, go force yourself to go talk to her/get her number/WHATEVER)
-be independent, go out into the world and find yourself

I’m sure you guys can come up with more ideas to post

This is a process, it doesn’t happen overnight, but you will see that it WILL work, I guarantee it. If I can do it (I’m a lazy, procrastinating, inpatient piece of shit), so can you.




**Uses his phsychic powers** I predict this post will get flamed..alot.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7881189 - 01/14/08 11:49 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

You have some sound advice for anyone with anxiety problems really.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: mlo517]
    #7881199 - 01/14/08 11:52 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

looks like the mushrooms kicked your ass. :lol:







dont worry, they kicked my ass too. many times. =]



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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: mlo517]
    #7881216 - 01/14/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

the length of this post gave me an anxiety attack.

So I read the so-called answer at the bottom.

and you probably didn't read through all the forums, as that's a standard response to someone going through depression.

and why blame the shrooms? That just proves your mind was too weak to handle them.

You fail at drugs.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: StonedShroom]
    #7881239 - 01/15/08 12:02 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

i agree w/ Tangerines, that is some pretty sound advice.

he blames the mushrooms because hes young,
& they opened his eyes wider than he expected...

edit: you fail at flaming.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: 40oz]
    #7881247 - 01/15/08 12:04 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

well, you can't really flame for real in the pube.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: StonedShroom]
    #7881263 - 01/15/08 12:08 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

That sucks that you got pwned by a fungus.

For serious.

Glad you're still 'sane.'


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Crasher]
    #7881266 - 01/15/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

sanity is overrated though.


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forreal though [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881275 - 01/15/08 12:12 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

no seriously though


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: mlo517]
    #7881323 - 01/15/08 12:26 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

i got my ass handed to me so fucing hard on saturday from my mushies. me and three buddies each ate 5.5 grams (most ive ever done) it just came in waves of insanity. thought about alot of messed up things but talked myself out of it. i completly lost all of my basic motor skills. but thats what mushrooms do to you.


maybe you should of looked into the drug a little more before trying? they are not anything to take lightly. if you dont go into your trip with a setteled mind that is what you will think about.

your just an amauteur at this man. no need for rx drugs and shrinks. pick up your skirt, drugs arent for you.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: blood4blood]
    #7881401 - 01/15/08 12:56 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

you know, this acutally seems pretty legit.

i've undergone GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and PD (panic disorder) and after taking medication and learning how to CONTROL the anxiety when shit hits the fan, i've learned how anxiety is really the only thing that makes me uncomfortable.

so as a person i have becmoe a lot more outgoing, i.e i socialize, admit when i'm wrong, try a lot of different things, have no problem working, etc.

so what he says is pretty right on.
righteous dude. good to hear you've overcame,
but i've had this for a long time and you're fooling yourself if you think its gone. it does come back. you just gotta know how to handle it. good luck.

be vigilant.



edit: p.s. drugs are for everyone :rolleyes:
you just gotta know, 'this is only the effects of the drug'


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: igwna]
    #7881403 - 01/15/08 12:58 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

I am in the process of controlling my fear and turning it 180 degrees to help me and not hinder me.

I think. :lol:


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881406 - 01/15/08 12:59 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

what do you mean fear?

is this a joke or have you been diagnosed with something?


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: igwna]
    #7881415 - 01/15/08 01:02 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

No joke. I have never seen a doctor or anything but I do have anxiety problems.  Do I need a doctor to tell me that I have anxiety? :lol:

ie. fear. Like in social situations I will clam up and feel nervous and sweat.

But lately i have been trying to reverse it moreorless. It is hard to explain. It is self-psychology in a way.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881427 - 01/15/08 01:07 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

no yeah, i get it. just make sure you always move forward.

and never avoid social interactions/events/whatever that make you uncomfortable. thats the best way to move forward.

you can handle it. :thumbup: good luck my dude.
i've been through a lot of anxiety. i only went to a doctor when i couldn't live my life normally anymore (aka i was going insane).

if you ever need any help, i know a lot and can do my best to help. i know how tough it can be. my therapist has even had me talk to some people going through what i did.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: blood4blood]
    #7881430 - 01/15/08 01:08 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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blood4blood said:
your just an amauteur at this man.  no need for rx drugs and shrinks.  pick up your skirt, drugs arent for you.




this can't be serious... there's no line between people who drugs are for and people who they aren't for... the psychedelic effects might hit some people harder and faster because of previous experiences, or whatever it might be, but i really don't get the logic in "drugs aren't for you", especially mushrooms...

if this treatment worked for this guy, great, i don't see the point in putting him down.

:2cents:


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: igwna]
    #7881445 - 01/15/08 01:14 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Thanks man. If anything a gets too bad I will shoot you pm for sure. But it is mild and never stops me from doing things really. Except parties. I used to go party all the time but as of late I would rather sit around my house on the weekends instead of going to some huge kegger. But that is not abnormal me thinks.

I also need to find a job. Ever since I came to school and have not been working in a social enviroment I think my social skills have been deteriorating. Being 'forced' to work in a social enviroment does me good. It sort of forces me to be sociable and reduces the anxiety in a way.

A big part is that I wake up, go to class, and come home. i really do not call people, people never call me, and im silent in class. I really only talk to my roomates every so often and that is about it. Give or take some exceptions. If I make an attempt to call people and just chill with people I think that will help. But alas all this talk with no walk is totally useless.

Thanks man.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881451 - 01/15/08 01:17 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

yeah i can feel that. do you sit on the computer a lot? vegetate in front of the tv? any of that kinda shit drains ambitions and creativity. a GREAT cure is to take a walk, draw a picture, go socialize as said earlier... even if you just go into a store and say hello to someone (the clerk?) "hello how are you?" hold the door for someone, even just getting out helps.

you're not too far off from me. its good to make a few good friends and hang out with them/have good conversations. feel good about yourself i.e change of hair style, if you like piercings maybe move up a size bigger (works for me :P)

i definitally feel you on the work thing. being forced to socialize DEFINITALLY helps.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: igwna]
    #7881457 - 01/15/08 01:18 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

just to make it known, this information can go for ANYONE.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: igwna]
    #7881467 - 01/15/08 01:21 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Yea I sit around and waste my time all day long really. i have been interested in making music on my computer. I have the programs just never the initiative. Also I want to start using this camera that I got.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881477 - 01/15/08 01:27 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

ah. well my best word of advice, is next time you think of it and think, eh i'll do it later. just get up and do it. don't think about it, just go. you'll procrastinate your life away if you don't just do it.

trust me.

you gotta start somewhere, but you'll never get anywhere if you don't start.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881479 - 01/15/08 01:27 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Spot on razmablues. Blood4blood, take a look at the reasons for your drug use man. Trying to sound cool for using mushrooms...on a forum full of people who use mushrooms just makes you sound like a tool. Maybe one of these days youll get a trip to knock you on your ass and humble you a bit one of these days.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7881481 - 01/15/08 01:30 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Yea I sit around and waste my time all day long really. i have been interested in making music on my computer. I have the programs just never the initiative. Also I want to start using this camera that I got.




Get out into the world and take beautiful pictures for us!

You'll get a new hobby, be proud of your results (unless you suck, :tongue: jk), possibly socialize with anyone who's curious about your photography, and we get to see pics of anything interesting you find!

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The advice is very sound, it can be applied to anyone with a fear of social situations as well. The more you socialize, the better you'll get at it, even if it takes you a million years.

Good luck and good health!

PS Eating right has a HUGE effect on your state of mind. I guarantee you'll feel happier if you eat less (or none) greasy foods, foods with sugar, foods with high fructose corn syrup, wheat (our bodies never evolved enough to digest wheat properly), and anything with the word hydrogenated in the ingredients.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: circularvortex]
    #7881486 - 01/15/08 01:32 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Spot on razmablues.  Blood4blood, take a look at the reasons for your drug use man.  Trying to sound cool for using mushrooms...on a forum full of people who use mushrooms just makes you sound like a tool.  Maybe one of these days youll get a trip to knock you on your ass and humble you a bit one of these days.




I don't think he was "trying to sound cool," and from the looks of his post, he's already had his fair share of ass kickers.

No need to assume hostile intent, its just the internets.:hippie:


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: kybish]
    #7884879 - 01/15/08 06:05 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Yea I got a canon rebel xti for 100 bucks :lol: I really should use it because I am sure some people would kill for that kinda camera at that price.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Tangerines]
    #7885049 - 01/15/08 06:40 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Being in class with a lot of younger kids, I have observed that you get a lot more social as you get older.

Younger kids are so worried about what other people will think.

Wait a couple years, and you just won't give a shit.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #7885064 - 01/15/08 06:43 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Sweet sweet apathy. The warmest blanket one can drape themselves in.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Crasher]
    #7885107 - 01/15/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I prefer the glowing spear of self-assurance

"I am way more interesting than you. I can cook and fuck way better. I have no need to filter myself"


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #7885918 - 01/15/08 09:08 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Nicely put Kid_Orgo, hehhhh


and can I ask where that bit in your sig is from?


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #7885927 - 01/15/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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I prefer the glowing spear of self-assurance

"I am way more interesting than you. I can cook and fuck way better. I have no need to filter myself"




Also known as arrogance. You are no better than anyone else.


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: igwna]
    #7912410 - 01/21/08 09:45 PM (16 years, 11 days ago)

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Nicely put Kid_Orgo, hehhhh


and can I ask where that bit in your sig is from?




The sig is from the last words of Dutch Sholtz. He was a gangster back in the bad old days, and got shot, took a long time to die and said a lot of interesting shit before doing so.


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He was a cowboy in one of the seven days a week fights. No business, no hangout; no friends, nothing; just what you pick up and what you need.


Edited by Kid_Orgo (01/21/08 09:47 PM)


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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #7913033 - 01/21/08 11:41 PM (16 years, 11 days ago)

oh awesome, thanks dude.


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I don't believe in cops, bosses, or politicians. Some call that anarchism. I call it having a fucking heart that beats.



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Re: heres my story, and the cure to anyone whos going through psychological hell [Re: mlo517]
    #10115299 - 04/06/09 08:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

ive been thru hell too...ur right u gotta find urself.

i also came out better than b4, besides being an opiate addict now


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