Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Hunting and Identification
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male

Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
ID Request NNSW Australia
    #7880950 - 01/14/08 11:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Newbie Mycologist here :smile:








Habitat: Grass field mushroom growing from dung of cow

Gills: The gill color varies from light to dark purple color.

Stem: Whitish, brown stripes, slightly enlarged at base. 1cm wide.

Cap: Brown to gray, 3 inches in diameter.

Spore print color: A dark purple color.

Bruising: no color change was observed. >:/

Location: Picked in north nsw Australia

Thanks for any help

Whoru

Edited by whoru (01/15/08 12:26 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,364
Last seen: 12 hours, 35 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7881046 - 01/14/08 11:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't see any bluing in the photo, so I was going to say Stropharia until I read that you said that it was growing directly from dung and stained blue.

Assuming both are true, I guess its Psilocybe cubensis.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male

Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7881069 - 01/14/08 11:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for your reply. I'm completely new at this. Yes it was growing directly in dung. Would the mushroom continue to stain blue as it aged? After being picked? Also i found an identical mushroom over 4" in diameter. How large can these grow?

Thanks again for your help

Edited by whoru (01/14/08 11:22 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGGreatOne234
Stranger
Registered: 12/23/99
Posts: 8,946
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7881192 - 01/14/08 11:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

interesting specimen whoru.

it is a Stropharia of some kind, most likely Psilocybe cubensis but it looks strange to me

your first photograph of the cap is dead on with P. cubensis, i can even see the dark purple spores on the cap surface.

but the gill color looks slightly off to me. i may have seen that shade of smokey grey gill color in peoples mature cultivated P. cubensis but do not recall seeing it like that in any wild specimens. it could just be how your camera was acting in that light

the formation of the veil is about right, but a little odd. the veil is white which fits the natural color of P. cubensis but i only see a slight amount of dark purple spores on the veil, and a mature cubensis that size would normally have a dark purple veil by then.

the habitat, location, size, stem, cap surface, all match up to Psilocybe cubensis. you might want to double check your spore print because i am sure it is not "blue" at all and only dark purplish or sometimes purplish-chocolate colored.

i guess the determining factor is if the stem bruised blue. a cubensis that size and freshness will basically always bruise blue if you provoke it.

and i have found cubensis with 7-8" cap diameter before. that is about as large of a cap as they will get with this species. usually when i found a cube that size which was only a few times it would be time to leave the field. i used to have photographs of these monsters but they are all gone. holding one in my hands would make me practically tip over

so if it bruises blue it is true

nice find, thanks for sharing

that is a cube

gg

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male

Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7881295 - 01/15/08 12:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cheers gg,

You are right about the spore print definitely dark purplish. Unfortunately all i have left of this specimen is a makeshift spore print.

Perhaps in my "newbieness" i have mistaken the dark purple spores on the cap for bruising. The stem remained like it was in the photo for the time i had the mushroom.

So in absence of "blue" bruising this would be in the Stropharia family as Alan has suggested. I will change my id request in light of this.

Thanks again for your help

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineundergrounder
fluffy bunny
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 1,394
Loc: Sydney Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7881432 - 01/15/08 01:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Did you eat it and find it wasn't active?

It certainly is a strange cubensis if it is one, only Stropharia from dung i know of is S.semiglobata and i don't think that's it. Interesting mushroom though.


--------------------
:igor: RIP :igor:

Bigger and bolder and rougher and tougher in other words sucka there is no other...
:pinkshroom: :supershroom: :mushroom2: :shroomer: :mushroom2: :supershroom: :pinkshroom:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male

Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7881463 - 01/15/08 01:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No i didn't eat it. I know where they live though! I'd like a positive id to warrant further investigation.

I would have liked to find a few younger mushrooms. Unfortunately the weather was not cooperating and it was to hot.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefarmer88
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/14/07
Posts: 1,247
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7881522 - 01/15/08 02:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's a cube, I can smell it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCubie
Moderator
Male


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 8,840
Loc: Down the rabbit hole...
Last seen: 11 years, 10 months
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: farmer88]
    #7881555 - 01/15/08 02:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like a pan to me but ima noob hunter myself


--------------------

Sid and Mr. Madhat <part one> A story by Cubie P. Cubensis
<> I WANNA SMOKE THIS BOWL <> <A comic by Cubie P. Cubensis>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: farmer88]
    #7881559 - 01/15/08 02:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

With no "blue" bruising?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleShroomeup
Snipes
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/16/07
Posts: 1,098
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: Cubie]
    #7881563 - 01/15/08 02:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Cubie said:
Looks like a pan to me but ima noob hunter myself



Nah man it looks nothing like any sort of Panaeolus.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCubie
Moderator
Male


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 8,840
Loc: Down the rabbit hole...
Last seen: 11 years, 10 months
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: Shroomeup]
    #7881599 - 01/15/08 02:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The gills of these mushrooms are black or grey and have a spotty, speckled or cloudy appearance, caused by the way that the dark spores ripen together in tiny patches on the gill surface; different patches darken at different times. Another character of the genus is that the spores are smooth. [1]


I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.....


--------------------

Sid and Mr. Madhat <part one> A story by Cubie P. Cubensis
<> I WANNA SMOKE THIS BOWL <> <A comic by Cubie P. Cubensis>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefarmer88
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/14/07
Posts: 1,247
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7881600 - 01/15/08 02:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Do you still have it? Seriously looks like one, I've had some bruise little or late when they are getting on or just plain dry-ish

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKanker
Hides in tall grass
Male


Registered: 07/16/07
Posts: 738
Loc: On a Long dead-heart.
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: farmer88]
    #7881619 - 01/15/08 02:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

idk, the cap looks pretty blueish, but i've seen Stropharia blush very blue/violet.
i see no obvious evidance of bruising, it looks more like blushing.

also, here in QLD, those things grow in cow paddocs from dung and off the ground all over the place.  generally there are five times as many of them as there are cubensis growing. just be careful when distinguishing bruising from blush. :wink:
and, i understand taht the one you picked was a little late before the sun got to it and warped the caps, but cubensis i've found tend to have a curvier cap, wheras the stropharia tend to have a very clean cut 'rice hat' cone shape/silhouette.


--------------------
I'm ahead, I'm advanced
I am the first mammal to make plans, yeah
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire.
It's evolution baby.
-Pearl Jam

Edited by Kanker (01/15/08 02:51 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: Kanker]
    #7881638 - 01/15/08 02:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Do you still have it? Seriously looks like one, I've had some bruise little or late when they are getting on or just plain dry-ish


No i didn't keep it. It was very dry had been mid 30's for two days.

Quote:

idk, the cap looks pretty blueish, but i've seen Stropharia blush very blue/violet.
i see no obvious evidance of bruising, it looks more like blushing.

also, here in QLD, those things grow in cow paddocs from dung and off the ground all over the place. generally there are five times as many of them as there are cubensis growing. just be careful when distinguishing bruising from blush.
and, i understand taht the one you picked was a little late before the sun got to it and warped the caps, but cubensis i've found tend to have a curvier cap, wheras the stropharia tend to have a very clean cut 'rice hat' cone shape/silhouette.




I agree with you, from the photographs i have seen. The top was pretty much flat.

I will make sure to distinguish bruising from blushing from now on. Learning a lot after my first hunt.

Thanks for your input!

Edited by whoru (01/15/08 03:02 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineWorkmanV
1999 Spore War Veteran
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 3,603
Loc: Oregon, USA
Last seen: 8 hours, 45 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7884351 - 01/15/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My first impression is of a Stropharia but its not one I am familiar with.


--------------------
Research funded by the patrons of
The Spore Works
Exotic Spore Supply

My Instagram
Reinvesting 25% of Sales Towards Basic Research and Species Identification :amanitajar:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: Workman]
    #7887162 - 01/16/08 03:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for all your help its appreciated. Picked up a nice field guide today should help a lot on the next hunt.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGGreatOne234
Stranger
Registered: 12/23/99
Posts: 8,946
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7889151 - 01/16/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yes usually when a mushroom bruises blue there is not too much doubt. so for your next identification request try to be as honest as possible with your description.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2859558484
Growery is Better
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 8,752
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7889265 - 01/16/08 05:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Im gonna say its some inactive strophia. . The first picture is similar to a cubensis, but the center color seems a bit too tan for a cube.

this mushroom looks similar to these I found growing in a old (hasnt been used in 20 yrs) cow field.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCureCat
Strangest
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/19/06
Posts: 14,058
Loc: clawing your furniture
Trusted Identifier
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: 2859558484]
    #7889313 - 01/16/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Your keyboard always makes me think you are about 9.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7889543 - 01/16/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

GGreatOne234 said:
yes usually when a mushroom bruises blue there is not too much doubt. so for your next identification request try to be as honest as possible with your description.



Noted. Learning a lot with experience. Was an honest mistake. Only had the mushroom for a few hours. Guess you have to detach yourself when identifying mushrooms. And see what is actually there, not what you want to see. If that makes any sense.

Edited by whoru (01/16/08 06:58 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: CureCat]
    #7889574 - 01/16/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

CureCat said:
Your keyboard always makes me think you are about 9.



? Ok. 'Experience is the teacher of all things'

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: 2859558484]
    #7889590 - 01/16/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

wowitch17 said:
Im gonna say its some inactive strophia. . The first picture is similar to a cubensis, but the center color seems a bit too tan for a cube.

this mushroom looks similar to these I found growing in a old (hasnt been used in 20 yrs) cow field.




Yep i think its a strophia too. Thanks for your post

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCureCat
Strangest
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/19/06
Posts: 14,058
Loc: clawing your furniture
Trusted Identifier
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7889592 - 01/16/08 06:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Heh, he has Spongebob Squarepants stickers on his keys, if that clarifies my comment....


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewhoru
Seeker
Male


Registered: 01/14/08
Posts: 32
Loc: down under
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: CureCat]
    #7889606 - 01/16/08 06:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ha maybe he has kids. Nice fractal too.

Edited by whoru (01/16/08 06:41 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCureCat
Strangest
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/19/06
Posts: 14,058
Loc: clawing your furniture
Trusted Identifier
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: whoru]
    #7889625 - 01/16/08 06:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty sure he's around my age. In which case, I hope he does not have kids.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2859558484
Growery is Better
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 8,752
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: ID Request NNSW Australia [Re: CureCat]
    #7890436 - 01/16/08 09:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lmao, glad to tell yall i dont have kids. I dont even have that keyboard anymore:( I spilled beer on it.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Hunting and Identification
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Non-Active ID request ChiefThunderbong 6,262 10 10/11/03 04:43 PM
by orizon
* ID 'request' (but not much info, sorry) koraks 4,778 6 01/11/04 03:15 AM
by koraks
* Found in northern orgon, ID Request puggymalone 6,265 15 10/13/23 10:32 AM
by Mr Piggy
* Dried MD-area ID Request (Newbie!) agentdss 5,976 10 10/15/03 03:40 PM
by agentdss
* id requested Da_Vine 3,987 8 07/07/04 08:16 PM
by canid
* Wild Mushroom ID Request Moon_Tea_Brewer 9,402 3 12/16/02 06:39 PM
by Anonymous
* ID request - England rock_ten 2,744 2 08/14/04 08:38 AM
by adamole666
* ID Request for this mushroom (might be active). malizec 2,360 10 09/29/04 07:24 AM
by Reverend_Jim_Jones

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
4,540 topic views. 1 members, 18 guests and 13 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.032 seconds spending 0.011 seconds on 14 queries.