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Drug diet..
    #7880519 - 01/14/08 09:18 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

i know alot of people say they eat a certain way before going on a trip but... is it necessary? does it help? what should I eat, and for how long?


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7880538 - 01/14/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Just don't eat for a few hours beforehand, other than that I think the effects of what you eat exactly should be negligible.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: g00ru]
    #7880925 - 01/14/08 10:56 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

I'd say don't eat for 6-12 hours before you ingest your Entheogen.

Drink plenty of water during the experience.

If your taking something with an MAOI like Ayahuasca, then you need to follow a special diet.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7881966 - 01/15/08 07:18 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah I take syrian rue alot, what diet should I do?


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7881986 - 01/15/08 07:25 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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PoisonedV said:
Yeah I take syrian rue alot, what diet should I do?




If you don't already know, you shouldn't have been taking rue...

An improper dietary preparation with Syrian Rue could possibly kill you depending on dosage.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info2.shtml

The most important is no drugs, caffeine, alcohol, cheese, meat, banana peels, soy\tofu, turkey or peanuts. 3-4 days before and after. A week prior + week after is recommended. At least the full week prior, then a couple days after.

Do not have ANY pharmaceutical medications, prescription or over-the-counter, in your system for at least 4-5 days before and after.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: SDP]
    #7882075 - 01/15/08 07:55 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Well, would I need to do that if I just take syrian rue by itself, which is what I meant?

eh, nevermind, don't answer that. if it can kill me when I fuck around with it and I have to eat an extremely limited diet for half a month then I will just hold off


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7882111 - 01/15/08 08:11 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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PoisonedV said:
Well, would I need to do that if I just take syrian rue by itself, which is what I meant?

eh, nevermind, don't answer that. if it can kill me when I fuck around with it and I have to eat an extremely limited diet for half a month then I will just hold off




If you are eating JUST syrian rue, it is MOST important to follow a diet.

To get good effects from just rue the dosage has to be a little higher. Because of this it is more important to have a correct diet at a larger dose then at the lower dose one might use to mix with shrooms\DMT.

It's not that hard of a diet man... and you don't have to be 100% strict with the food.

The things that are mandatory to avoid: caffeine, alcohol, supplements, any prescription or OTC meds. After that, just try to avoid tofu, aged cheese, bananas and peanuts. Most of this should be stuff that you either don't normally eat anyway or could use a 6 day break from.

Dieting 3 days before and 2 days after will work in terms of safety in relation to diet. If you had been taking any OTC or prescription meds, these can take 2 or more weeks to be fully processed out of your body.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: SDP]
    #7882116 - 01/15/08 08:13 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah but I eat alot of meat and caffeine
I could probably drink diet sodas, fruit juices, and salads for a bit though. maybe make my psuedo addiction actually help me out in life


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7882882 - 01/15/08 11:22 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Be sure to drink plenty of water during the trip. I think this is mostly a personal thing with me as it's only happened to one other person that I know on on a single occasion, but I've had it happen 3-4 times where the next day I'd just wake up with a crucial headache... or I should say migrain. I just would have to sleep until late that evening because it's so painful I can't even hold my eyes open. I'm not sure if this was just an allergic reaction to the mushies or if I seriously got that dehydrated or what, but I'm careful to drink a shit load of water now and I haven't experienced any headaches since.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: krypto2000]
    #7884964 - 01/15/08 06:23 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Here's my Aya'(MAOI) diet-

Within 2 weeks of and 2 weeks after-
ALL medications and vitamins
Symptathomimetic drugs
Protein bars or extracts
Sumatriptan
Imitrex
Antihistamines
MDMA
Aged Cheese- Bre’, etc.
Amphetamines
Migraine medicines
SSRIs and any other anti-depressants
OTC cold medicines
Ephedrine
Ephedra
Yohimbe
Heterocyclicsand
Nosedrops
tranquilizers
Decongestants
Pseudoephedrine
Diet pills
Sedatives- Sleeping Pills, etc.
Asarone
Nutmeg
Macromerine
Narcotics- Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, etc.
Allergy medication
Opiates- Opium, Valium, Oxycotton, Hydrocodone
St. Johns Wort
Dextromethorphan
Any other MAO inhibitor; MAOI Anti-depressants- Sertraline (zoloft, etc.
Amoxapine (asendin)
Antihypertensives (high blood pressure medication)
Appetite suppressants
Clomipramine (anafranil)
Cyclobenzaprine (flexeril)
Desipramine (pertofrane)
Doxepin (sinequan)
Fluoxetine (prozac)
Imipramine (tofranil)
Levodopa (dopar, larodopa)
Maprotiline (ludiomil)
Medicine for asthma or other breathing problems
Meperidine (demerol)
Methylphenidate (ritalin)
Nortriptyline (aventyl)
Paroxetine (paxil)
Protriptyline (vivactil)
Selegiline (eldepryl)
Tricyclic antidepressants (amitriptyline, elavil)
Trimipramine (surmontil)

Within 1 week of and 1 week after-
Same as above+
Any tyrosine-containing food
Mescaline
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Broad (Fava) bean pods ( whatever that is)
Soy Sauce and Miso soup
Avocados
Kombucha
Bananas
Dill
Parsley
Fennel
Protein bars or extracts
Aged cheese
Chocolate
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.

Within 3 days of and 3 after-
Same as above+
All drugs and alcohol
Non-alcoholic brewed (Fermented) beverages (non-alcoholic beer); Kombucha; All other brewed drinks.
Bananas
Chocolate
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Broad (Fava) bean pods ( whatever that is)
Avocados
Cultured dairy products (buttermilk, yogurt, and sour cream)
Raisins
Red plums
All Caffeine products (Coffee, Black or Oolong Tea, Energy Drinks, Ect.)
All Dairy products
Soy Sauce
Spinach
Figs
Raspberries
Nuts
Cheese
Fish
Ginseng
High Protein Meals
Sausage, Bologna, Pepperoni, Liver and Salami
Sauerkraut
Shrimp
Soups- may have protein, Miso soup can be dangerous.
Yeast (unless baked)
Salt
Sugar
Oil
Fat (Except 30m after ingestion)
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.





Within 36 hours of and 36 hours after-
Same as above+
No meat or ingestion of any sort of living creature.
Absolutely no candy or sugar.
No sex or masturbation.
Take a long bath or shower; Shave your Head, Eye-Brows and Ass; Paint yourself Blue.
Drink nothing but water.
Contemplate the experience.
33-7 hours before- Same as above + No food
3-1 hours before- Same as above + No water or other drink.
5-15m before- Pre-roll a small joint for after the purge.
Release all bodily waste and fluids.
Shake before use.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7885028 - 01/15/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Holy. Shit.

No sex or masturbation.
All drugs and alcohol
Mescaline
Kombucha
etc
you have much more self control than I ever will


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7885306 - 01/15/08 07:23 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Kombucha is pretty damn good.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7887427 - 01/16/08 07:08 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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FarFromHere said:
Kombucha is pretty damn good.




I'm down for your whole list till you take away my kombucha... :crazy2:


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: krypto2000]
    #7887658 - 01/16/08 09:32 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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krypto2000 said:
Be sure to drink plenty of water during the trip. I think this is mostly a personal thing with me as it's only happened to one other person that I know on on a single occasion, but I've had it happen 3-4 times where the next day I'd just wake up with a crucial headache... or I should say migrain. I just would have to sleep until late that evening because it's so painful I can't even hold my eyes open. I'm not sure if this was just an allergic reaction to the mushies or if I seriously got that dehydrated or what, but I'm careful to drink a shit load of water now and I haven't experienced any headaches since.




Yeah the headache is definitely from dehydration. I drink as much water as I can before, after, and during my trip.


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Re: Drug diet.. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7889439 - 01/16/08 06:06 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

The Trip was awesome... I'm too tired to explain it all... but my graphics card broke or somthing last night so i couldnt watch milkdrop in winamp.


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