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unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better?
    #7878979 - 01/14/08 06:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I realize that there is probably very high grade nug in Amsterdam... somewhere... but honestly, aside from having the time of my life (no complaints!) I was shocked that none of the weed was any better than the stuff I get on the regular at home in the states.

I haven't been to Cali yet, but I have certainly had weed straight from friends living there. My question is.... how does the weed in the medical shops compare to weed on the street?

Has anyone else noticed how weak the weed in Amsterdam is, compared to expectations?


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879080 - 01/14/08 06:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lil flip says it best

"cali's got the best kill, but amsterdam's got everything all year"



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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879088 - 01/14/08 06:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

How does this relate to P&S?


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879097 - 01/14/08 06:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You have to go to Barneys, or Grey Area to get the extremely bomb shit. Otherwise you usually just get ripped off. Those two places though, were out of control. That said, Ive had better weed in california


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879134 - 01/14/08 06:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Look, it is all weed. And it is all grown the same way. High end is high end. Low end is low end. Mids are mids. The REALLY good stuff is rare in any market.

Amsterdam weed is good... but it is mass produced. For better weed, the grower REALLY needs to give the plants TLC. So, sadly, the really good stuff comes in small crops... but even the really good stuff is just weed.

People everywhere grow Amsterdam quality weed. Everybody uses the same seeds... and similar growing techniques.

Indoor weed can taste a bit like water... outdoor weed can taste a bit like dirt. Medical grade weed is good, and consistent... but it is not the be-all-and-end-all of the weed smoking experience... not by a long shot.

Good weed is NOT gaged only by strength. There are many factors that are weighed. How does it look? How does it taste? How smooth is the smoke? Does it make you cough more than good weed should? Your results may vary.

I'd rather have strong smelling, good tasting, smooth smoking weed over strong weed that makes me cough up a lung. I'll STILL get high... and I will enjoy the smoking experience more.

Different types of weed have slightly different highs... and different people may experience the SAME weed differently.

A good Sativa (Fluffy, and perhaps leafy, green buds) tends to get you stoned... but an experienced smoker can keep smoking it all day and still have a normal conversation. Many people waste good Sativa... because they keep smoking it... thinking they will get, "Faded". That is not what a good sativa is intended to do. It is a waste of good weed.

You want to get, "Faded" try Indica (dense red buds). Indica tends to make people more mellow than sativa... and it'll usually get you talking like a stoner. A good Indica is great for an outdoor concert on a summer day.

Then we have indoor and outdoor weed. Central Cali has a good growing season... and during the growing season... there is usually the right amount of rain and wind to grow NICE WEED outdoors. But what if it is a dry year? It will be reflected in the weed.

Indoor weed is more consistent... if grown by someone who knows what they are doing... so many people who live in places like Cali... STILL grow indoors. It costs more... but it is easier to hide... and the results will remain consistent.

As you can see, personal taste has a lot to do with what weed you will like most. Don't worry so much about strength... all good weed WILL get you stoned. The region the weed is grown in (or sold in) has little effect... unless of course it is grown outdoors.

Perhaps you went to the wrong coffee shops... or perhaps your expectations were too high (pun intended).

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? (moved) [Re: kotik]
    #7879159 - 01/14/08 06:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

This thread was moved from Philosophy & Spirituality.

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This isn't P&S material. I'm moving it to the Pub.

To the OP: if you think it does belong in P&S, PM me and tell me why. Alternatively, bribe me with some primo nugs and I'll move it back. :smile:


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Rose]
    #7879163 - 01/14/08 06:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

what did you go to weed college? damn nigga..



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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7879187 - 01/14/08 06:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It was a helluva' major. :smile:

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879266 - 01/14/08 07:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

you got to be a stooopid motherfucker if you can't find good weed in Amsterdam. The Cannabis Cup isn't held in Cali


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: sam420]
    #7879292 - 01/14/08 07:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

And if you think The Cannabis Cup growers are mass producing their award winners... with all the TLC they have put into the competition... you are confused about how weed is grown commercially.

Weed is illegal in Cali... THAT is why the Cup is not held there... but Cali has more weed smokers than The Netherlands.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: TheCow]
    #7879303 - 01/14/08 07:09 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You have to go to Barneys, or Grey Area to get the extremely bomb shit. Otherwise you usually just get ripped off. Those two places though, were out of control.




trust me, I did. In fact, I ended up going over to DNA genetics across the street from Grey Area, and chilled with the cats that grow and supply Grey Area. Even they said the weed in Cali was much better. To be fair, they let me smoke on some of their personal stash, of the same exact strains I bought from Grey Area.. and let's just say, the shit they get to smoke on at work was much better than anything i could have found in the coffeeshops, even though it was the same exact plant.. ha.

From all the material I read, and people I spoke to, it's not a big secret that the strains in the Dam used to be very very weak.. it took lots of cross breeding and grower enthusiasts to bring it up to par. I got to meet a clone of the original skunk #1 as well. I mean, I did my research and talked to lots of people. It didn't seem to be a personal observations, as much as it was an accepted thing.


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Look, it is all weed. And it is all grown the same way. High end is high end. Low end is low end. Mids are mids. The REALLY good stuff is rare in any market.




ehh, I disagree... very much so. There are THC, CBD and CBN levels to take into account, along with the sativa/indica percentages. All of these things affect the high in many ways. Essentially, no two strains are exactly the same. Just having something "really good" does not describe it's quality.

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Good weed is NOT gaged only by strength. There are many factors that are weighed. How does it taste? How smooth is the smoke? Does it make you cough more than good weed should? Your results may vary.





you are right. I should be more specific - when I said I was unimpressed, I mean that not a single strain (and I tried LOTS) put me on my ass. I mean, I was expecting to pass out in Barney's one night, or get lost in the city from being so high, or perhaps even see things and freak out (it's happened before on really potent stuff)... however, nothing like that happened. None of it was even strong enough to make me want to lie down, and I tried as hard as I could to get there.

As for taste / etc. ah man, Amsterdam is THE place to be. But if we're talking about getting some bud that will make you think you were just hit by a bus... well, it wasn't in the shops. I agree it's probably because the shop stuff is produced in mass quantities... but that doesn't really excuse it. It's still probably grown better than many people go about it in the states.

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perhaps your expectations were too high (pun intended).





Most likely the case, but it still leaves me wondering... "really??!?"

Since ive been back, ive had maybe 6-7 different strains in the states. I would say 2/7 are stronger (indica) than any of the weed i came across in amsterdam.

again, on the presentation / taste / etc, nothing compares (well, sometimes - but it's rare).


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: sam420]
    #7879311 - 01/14/08 07:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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you got to be a stooopid motherfucker if you can't find good weed in Amsterdam. The Cannabis Cup isn't held in Cali




maybe your standards are just low. There is a huge difference between a pothead and a connoisseur.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879338 - 01/14/08 07:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry, I don't have low standards.

The last time I went to Amsterdam, I sampled this many:



My favourite was Amnesia Haze, which incidentally won the Cannabis Cup later the same year.  My tastes in weed seem to tally with the judges of that competition.

Edit: Not to mention I used to be a grower of some of the tastiest stuff you've probably never smoked. 
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maybe your standards are just low. There is a huge difference between a pothead and a connoisseur.



yeah the difference is a connoisseur is capable of finding good weed in Amsterdam :rofl:


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7879347 - 01/14/08 07:19 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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what did you go to weed college? damn nigga..






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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879714 - 01/14/08 08:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

maybe you smoke too much weed. I find it reall yhard to believe that anyone could come back from amsterdam and say that they tried to get really high and couldn't. I'm sick of people who smoke too much weed who think that weed sucks cause it doesn't get them high.. after a while you gotta stop and think, hmm mabye i'm just smoking too much and my tolerance is really high. plus why do you have to get floored and whiped out. it seems as though going to amsterdam is about hanging out and smoking tasties among other things.. but legally in coffee shops for cheaper. why isn't that alone sufficient for you to come back without any complaints


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7879766 - 01/14/08 08:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

How much was an 1/8 of headies in Amsterdam?


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: vintage_gonzo]
    #7879949 - 01/14/08 09:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The best bud I've ever had has been from Amsterdam. Before I went, I did a bit of research on the web and found out which shops to go to, what to try there, and which places to avoid. Pretty much everything I ended up sampling was better than 99% of what anyone I know gets in the states.

I'm not saying that there isn't better anywhere else in the world, but I've sampled a good bit and the stuff from A'dam was definitely the best.

Plus, if you are into hash, it is probably one of the only places you can go in the world and find top quality hash in nearly every variety from all the different countries that produce it. If you tried a bunch of the hash and didn't get RIPPED, then you have some SERIOUS tolerance.

I tried the Amnesia Haze as well Sam and that shit was STRONG!



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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kindadank]
    #7880194 - 01/14/08 09:58 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yea for real the hash is out of control. I smoked way too much at Barney's, ended up wandering around for a few hours looking like I was on crack. Id constantly look all around afraid people were after me, I eventually settled in a park and laid down in the grass for like 30 minutes. Eventually I came down and smoked more, eh...


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Rose]
    #7880211 - 01/14/08 10:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Weed is illegal in Cali... THAT is why the Cup is not held there... but Cali has more weed smokers than The Netherlands.





We have legal marijuana for medical purposes, and let me tell you - that' some of the finest weed available anywhere. :potleaf:

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7880239 - 01/14/08 10:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

truly northern ca is a mj meca
the weather. the people. and the wilderness provide ample opertunity. so much that it completly overrus the ecoomy

if it where legal it would become some sort of new silco valley. sept it would be the thc valley.
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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: notapillow]
    #7880248 - 01/14/08 10:09 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Stupidity and rigidity of modern government scares me.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: sam420]
    #7880252 - 01/14/08 10:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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My favourite was Amnesia Haze,





yes...that was mine also....... :smile: :smile: :smile:


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7880301 - 01/14/08 10:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I am pretty sure that a good deal of the nugget I get here on Maui probably comes from Cali -- and the new dealer I've managed to do business with has a good moving rotation of quality buds.

Unfortunately due to "Operation Green Harvest" out here on the islands, the days of cheap and plentiful locally grown green from the valleys and hills of Hawaii are over. The pressure is on all the time. Near the ends of the growing season it is not uncommon to see heli's heading back to town with huge hauls of weed hanging from beneath. It makes me sad....


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #7880306 - 01/14/08 10:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I would think that the people of Hawaii would be among the first in line to get weed legallized in their State.
What possible reason could there be to keep it illegal on an island where no one is being harmed by its presense?


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7880336 - 01/14/08 10:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I realize that there is probably very high grade nug in Amsterdam... somewhere... but honestly, aside from having the time of my life (no complaints!) I was shocked that none of the weed was any better than the stuff I get on the regular at home in the states.

I haven't been to Cali yet, but I have certainly had weed straight from friends living there. My question is.... how does the weed in the medical shops compare to weed on the street?

Has anyone else noticed how weak the weed in Amsterdam is, compared to expectations?




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there are alott of california growers and alott of them are good at what they do. yet not all of them flood the market with great stuff.

id need to have a sit down with you...

i say medical is designer weed and some true blue growers in cali still have that back yard skunk thats true blue.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: notapillow]
    #7880344 - 01/14/08 10:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I have no say in this, I have only had weed from Humboldt County.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7880439 - 01/14/08 10:58 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Despite it being illegal here, it is pretty much a way of life. For the most part the cops don't really care about the smokers anymore. They've got their hands full dealing with the ice-fiends.

If the smattering of different buds we have available here is indicative of the Cali markets..... damn, it must be a good thing to live in California!


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #7880476 - 01/14/08 11:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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damn, it must be a good thing to live in California!




I'm not complaining. :gethigh:


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #7880743 - 01/15/08 12:18 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I have been getting a lot of outdoor stuff here on Oahu.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7880893 - 01/15/08 12:49 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know if this is true but I heard much of the weed there is sifted for hash production. So the pot being sold already has been stripped of some potency.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Rose]
    #7881183 - 01/15/08 01:47 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The last time I smoked some local outdoor, it was "pretendica" cane weed. Looked like a nice nugget, but there was no flavor and hardly any buzz.

Good to see you again Cervantes --- cept I'm not Jim! Everybody always thinks I'm Jim..... Our names were too close and we're both a couple of hippies.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #7881560 - 01/15/08 04:20 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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damn, it must be a good thing to live in California!




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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7881572 - 01/15/08 04:25 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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MASTER KUSH





'nuff said. truly spoken. bravo! :congrats:

my favorite kush, period. i prefer it over OG and bubba strains, although a good hindu or afghan will certainly do the trick too!

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #7881595 - 01/15/08 04:35 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

also, i should take up smoking again, but i'm almost scared of some of the shit that's been coming into my area recently. even my friends with super high tolerances are knocked on their asses and i've got absolutely no tolerance anymore.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: notapillow]
    #7881627 - 01/15/08 04:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

you can get bombass weed anywhere. just gotta know the right people.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: usg543]
    #7881687 - 01/15/08 05:21 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

just to clarify, im not saying the weed in the dam isn't good... just saying I was expecting something a bit over the top. I tried the hash too.. including Barney Rubble.

And yes, I had Amnesia Haze. I had over 40 strains. My favorite was Blueberry Cheese, and the most potent was probably "Grey Berry," even though technically it should have been Sweettooth according to the THC levels in Barney's chart.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: notapillow]
    #7881700 - 01/15/08 05:31 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There's something wrong when you can't find good bud in Amsterdam....

The best comes from cali. Because us Americans know our shit!
Amsterdam is commercialized for tourists Americans just loooooovvvvvve bud


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Cubie]
    #7881889 - 01/15/08 08:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

From my experience ive been pretty let down by the skunk over there. Youve got to remember the coffee shops over there are in it for the profit and this leads to a large amount of weed on the commercial market being "tumbled".

I go three times a year and have realised its definitely all about the hashish, although saying that when I went in december the quality of skunk way a lot higher than on previous visits.

It could also depend on the part of the season you go (an assumption I know, however it would make sense to me that the higher the number of tourists (peak season) the lower the quality).

If you couldnt get decent quality from the grey area or barneys (dunno if you tried dampkring) somethings seriously amiss. Although I have been hearing extremely bad reports about the "barney rubble" hash.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7881927 - 01/15/08 09:01 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7881969 - 01/15/08 09:19 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in Amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Cubie]
    #7882156 - 01/15/08 10:23 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

My boy who moved to northern cali a few years ago.. recently visited amsterdam and hit up all the hot spots.. he basically echoed the exact same things to me.. he wasn't impressed with their ganja. Said basically the same thing you are saying.. it was good.. but it wasn't as good as some stuff he's had over here and he was expecting better due to all the hype.
Just a theory but it could be due to the sheer amount of dedicated potheads we have in this country.. you grow pot here you have to do it guerrilla style. And I know cali is producing a lot of good quality shit.. a lot of it makes it over to the east coast even with our surplus of indoor growers. I'd go so far as to say the quality coming from some of these plants is due to the fact that it's illegal but in such high demand, and in some way that has resulted in better care and better genetics. Some people I've met are really serious about their strains.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Cubie]
    #7882165 - 01/15/08 10:27 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i have been to amsterdam and live in n. cali. and our local dank is bomber. the dam has good weed, but nowhere near the variety of strains. they have no grandaddy purple or sour diesel as far as i saw. i have also been told that all the seed growers get clones and cross breed them to get seeds thus watering down the pure genetics, which is why cali has got better doja. the only other place that is comparable to california, weed wise is the great state of oregon. they also have some legendary smoke, and strains. my favorite strain was the super silver haze in the netherlands. they have a lot of good sativas. here in cali due to the profit motive and legal status, many grow indicas that flower faster and produce more weight in a shorter period of time. either that or 50/50 indica sativa hybrids that have a sativa high, and flower quicker and weightier like an indica.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #7882606 - 01/15/08 12:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i think the weed looks bomb in the dam, but most of the shit ive smoked there was chemy and not cured well. cali has some mmmmm mmmmmmm ew wee shit. ive had some purfumy stuff thats dreamy just to be around.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: impgl]
    #7882933 - 01/15/08 01:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I've been to Amsterdam three times and I live in Cali.  I can echo what most people have said... you can find good weed in either place but Cali is generally better quality.  In my experience the Cali cannabis clubs, especially the big ones, have a much bigger and higher quality selection than most touristy Amsterdam coffee shops.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Plok]
    #7882972 - 01/15/08 01:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

And a lot of that is because here in Cali, most of the available weed is grown indoors with sophisticated setups.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7882995 - 01/15/08 01:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7883013 - 01/15/08 01:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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And a lot of that is because here in Cali, most of the available weed is grown indoors with sophisticated setups.




i really dont agree with that at all. i mean, i would say the opposite. we have bomb ass weather (though indoor did blow up because of the war on drugs, forcing more growers to go indoors in the 80s). and what do you think they have in holland? the weather is too poor to grow outside, by far, most domestically grown bud in holland is indo.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: impgl]
    #7883026 - 01/15/08 01:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I wasn't trying to compare our weed to that of Holland.
I was just giving a reason as to why the quality of Cali bud is so high.
I never said that Dutch weed wasn't grown indoors.
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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7883045 - 01/15/08 01:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

My impression was that a lot of the bud being exported from cali, especially northern.. is outdoors. It's still some bomb-diggity shit.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7883049 - 01/15/08 01:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

That used to be the case, but there have been massive DEA busts lately, so most of what is grown moved indoors.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #7883056 - 01/15/08 01:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7883079 - 01/15/08 02:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You guys are all ridiculous, every one of you!

Grow your own pot if everybody is going to be so freaking picky about what they smoke or where it comes from.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #7883089 - 01/15/08 02:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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The last time I smoked some local outdoor, it was "pretendica" cane weed. Looked like a nice nugget, but there was no flavor and hardly any buzz.

Good to see you again Cervantes --- cept I'm not Jim! Everybody always thinks I'm Jim..... Our names were too close and we're both a couple of hippies.




Yeah... the "pretendica" (I LOVE that term). That's the stuff. On a scale from A-F I'd give it a firm B.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7883241 - 01/15/08 02:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

im not trying to talk shit man, nothing like that. but these dea busts have been poppin for 20 -30 years. most cali bud is outdoors though, no doubt in my mind. thats what its famous for. :stoned:


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Rose]
    #7883256 - 01/15/08 02:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

A majority of weed that is grown outdoors in cali (the good shit) is geneticly enginnered through generations to be that good. Grow outdoors best. Highest yealds. And quickest harvest.
If it wasnt for the innovation caused my police forcing the growers in secretcy I don't think the level of mastory over marijuana would be far lower.
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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Cubie]
    #7883282 - 01/15/08 02:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: impgl]
    #7883291 - 01/15/08 02:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

SWIM just came back from the dam, went seed shopping, indeed! pineapple punch, thai tanic, the pure, chocolope, lemon skunk, random th seed seeds, g13 haze and martian haze :crazy2:


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Robo]
    #7883343 - 01/15/08 02:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

god damn why did I open this thread when I don't have any ganj.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: sam420]
    #7883479 - 01/15/08 03:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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god damn why did I open this thread when I don't have any ganj.

that budporn made my penis ricochet off the bottom of my desk



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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: sam420]
    #7883493 - 01/15/08 03:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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god damn why did I open this thread when I don't have any ganj.

that budporn made my penis ricochet off the bottom of my desk




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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #7883529 - 01/15/08 03:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I totally ment I DO think it had in inpact on our mastpert of marijuana.
I'm fuckin stoned

Sleep depravatin makes the shwagg , that fuckin bud you gotta have.
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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: kotik]
    #7883536 - 01/15/08 03:51 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

If you want good pot grow your own, you'll never buy any that's better if you know what you're doing.


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    #7883539 - 01/15/08 03:52 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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If you want good pot grow your own, you'll never buy any that's better if you know what you're doing.




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    #7883551 - 01/15/08 03:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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If you want good pot grow your own, you'll never buy any that's better if you know what you're doing.




thats the most useful and meaningful thing that you've ever said. you better quit now while you are ahead.


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    #7883574 - 01/15/08 04:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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    #7883614 - 01/15/08 04:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Lmao. Very true. Nothing better then that first puff off your babys babies (your plants buds) :p after allll that work. And patience


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    #7883653 - 01/15/08 04:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

humboldt trainwreck

beats the weed i have smoked from Amsterdam.

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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: sk8cracka]
    #7883909 - 01/15/08 05:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I have no say in this, I have only had weed from Humboldt County.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: notapillow]
    #7883916 - 01/15/08 05:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

California has the best weed of any state i have been in, true story.


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Re: unimpressed with the weed in amsterdam coffeeshops... is cali any better? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #7884488 - 01/15/08 06:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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they have no grandaddy purple or sour diesel as far as i saw. i have also been told that all the seed growers get clones and cross breed them to get seeds thus watering down the pure genetics, which is why cali has got better doja. the only other place that is comparable to california, weed wise is the great state of oregon. they also have some legendary smoke, and strains. my favorite strain was the super silver haze in the netherlands. they have a lot of good sativas. here in cali due to the profit motive and legal status, many grow indicas that flower faster and produce more weight in a shorter period of time. either that or 50/50 indica sativa hybrids that have a sativa high, and flower quicker and weightier like an indica.





recently, sour diesel (and many other types of diesel) have been in high demand, and all over the dam. They are great, but nowhere near the actual NYC diesel I get in NYC, lol. The only strain I really couldn't find anywhere, was kush. And I mean nobody even had it listed... not that they were sold out (like diesel in most places) but they didn't even have it.

Also, nobody seemed to sell hash oil, due to it being too potent (wtf?)

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i have also been told that all the seed growers get clones and cross breed them to get seeds thus watering down the pure genetics, which is why cali has got better doja.





I heard the same things, even from growers and shop owners. Seems like a shame, but good news for me, I have friends and family in Cali... so visiting there is much cheaper, and easier!

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my favorite strain was the super silver haze in the netherlands.





ah, one of my favorites as well.

I also have to agree that getting bud right from the grower is best. especially if the grower is you.


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