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OfflineKnowledgeIsPower
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how could LC go wrong?
    #7877986 - 01/14/08 12:04 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

I did the liquid culture tek. Matter fact i did the one right here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2321056&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 I did it last wednesday and now its monday and i shook it a few times. But today i looked and i see nothing in my tupperware. Should i keep waiting or basically abort this. I really just dont understand what could of gone wrong. It seemed so easy. I wore a mask and used a still air box. Washed my hands used alchool. I tried to be as cautious as possible. Im considering just innoculating bags with spore solution even though i only have 15 cc's left...


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: KnowledgeIsPower]
    #7877996 - 01/14/08 12:06 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Spores that aren't viable ??


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: Blutjager]
    #7878004 - 01/14/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

used alcohol.. but did you flame sterilize the needle?

you maybe would have had more success with a jar or something with a self healing innoc point and an airport.


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: donpatch]
    #7878083 - 01/14/08 12:22 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

its only been a few days. What makes you think that spores germinate that fast???
People here lie. One guy says his spores germinated in 5 days, the next guy says oh yeah mine did in 3 days. The next guy says well mine germinates in 3 minutes.
Give it at least 2 weeks. PLus karo sucks and that tech is a litle shady. You can only trust a pc, a sealed jar and a medical grade filter. All these other techs may work but.............. They are not great and they probably fail more than work


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: tahoe]
    #7878189 - 01/14/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

you may have put in too much karo. IME 3% gets better results than 4%. practice makes perfect.


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: tahoe]
    #7878205 - 01/14/08 12:49 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Im sorry but what does not viable mean. I got them from lilshopofspores.com. I dont know i figured it wouldnt take to long to atleast see the myco growth. Im going to try the tek over i guess with another container and see how it goes.


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: KnowledgeIsPower]
    #7878228 - 01/14/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

try it with a more sterile type of container... i dont know if i would trust sran wrap with my spores. non viable means the spores wont germinate..


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: KnowledgeIsPower]
    #7878235 - 01/14/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

1% malt extract works better, I have two sets of LC's one 3% honey one 1% malt extract all inoculated the same day... 1% malt extract has quicker thicker healthier results
Inoculated on 1/11 (multispore) spores have germinated and grown out in 3 days. I will take/post pics if you want to see them


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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: P.Menace]
    #7878310 - 01/14/08 01:15 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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P.Menace said:
1% malt extract works better,



Did I teach you this??? I have been preaching malt for years.
Check this out. Lc's are basically agar recipes without the agar.
Malt extract agar requires 20 grams of powdered malt per liter (1000ml) of water.
Break this down for an lc and we are talking 500ml of water in a quart jar with 10 grams of malt. This isn't good. That is way too much sugar for a lc.
I am using 1 gram of malt per 500 ml of water. The lc is almost clear and they grow great.
Less is better for a lc. Too much sugar and you start having problems.

You start with a hyper active mycelium from an over rich lc and then put it to some grain with less sugar and it freaks out and stalls for a few days.

You start with low sugar lc and put it to grain now the mycelium becomes hyper active and you will see growth in 12 hours at room temp.

You guys need to put down the karo,honey,turbino,dextrose and order some light-tan-extra light- powder malt. Get the lightest they offer, it will be called brewers malt, barely malt, and they will not act like they do not know what the hell you are talking about when you ask for the lightest malt they sell. Wait a week for it to come in and use 1 gram per 500ml. It is only about 1/2 teaspoon. I know it will not seem like enough but it is perfect. Try it, trust me.

BTW, search for home brewing supplies on google. Do not try to get powdered malt from a health food store. Those dirt bag hippie ass vegans are stupid. The lack of protein in their diets have negatives effects on brain cells


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


My Legacy
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987

Teh=The
I need to proofread


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: tahoe]
    #7878332 - 01/14/08 01:22 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

"Those dirt bag hippie ass vegans are stupid"

Ha ha....5 mushrooms for you:dielaughing:


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Re: how could LC go wrong? [Re: tahoe]
    #7878375 - 01/14/08 01:33 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

A friend P.Daem0n bought some Carnation brand malted milk, and put 1 tbls. in 500 ml of water and PC'd it for an hour, It came out looking horrible with the milk skin boiled to the sides of the jar, but he strained it thru a coffee filter and what came out was a dark brown CLEAR liquid, he then put 1 shot in each LC jar to be and added the rest of 500 ml of water. PC'd for 30 more minutes and VOILA! some beautiful LC solution, mostly clear and the myc/spores bust out in it in just a few short days. I use light malt extract liquid (its what i could find) 1.5gm to 500ml of water. it comes out clear and works great.
Tahoe no you didnt teach me that, I have srtuggled with LC's a bit for a while and the day I noticed that myc was growing in distilled water faster than my LC's. which at the time were honey water (dark dark yellow)I switched to less nutrients/sugars, clear LC solutions and I will never go back.
Ive notived that if you can manage to tell WHAT COLOR the solution is, then you have WAY WAY too much honey/karo/malt


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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.


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